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Isakat May 3rd 2021 10:17 pm

Certificato penale
 
Hi all,

I need a bit of help with an application for citadinanza please.

Is the British certificate from ACRO sufficient and equal to the certificato penale?

I also read that they require the birth certificate to be translated and legalized in the Italian embassy/consulate in the birth country. I find this extraordinary if it is true.....

And lastly, I also read that even people who have lived in the country before they were 14 years of age, they should still provide certificato penale.

I am grateful for some guidance from you who have the citadinanza.


philat98 May 3rd 2021 11:09 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 
I took my Acro and birth certificates to the British School. They translated them and took them to the Tribunale for legalization. That was back in 2017 before Brexit.
The British School knew what to do and the cost was very reasonable.

philat98 May 4th 2021 1:22 am

Re: Certificato penale
 
Ruby2 mentioned a useful facebook group.https://www.facebook.com/groups/britishcitizensinitaly/

Pica May 4th 2021 4:03 am

Re: Certificato penale
 

Originally Posted by Isakat (Post 13002166)
Hi all,



I also read that they require the birth certificate to be translated and legalized in the Italian embassy/consulate in the birth country. I find this extraordinary if it is true.....
I am grateful for some guidance from you who have the citadinanza.

I don't have Italian citizenship (only British) but when applying for residency in Italy over 9 years ago i did have to have my British BC translated into Italian at the Consulate in Liverpool and then verified by the British Foreign Office because I was born in Libya of British parents serving in the Forces. Things are just so complicated here!

Isakat May 4th 2021 4:09 am

Re: Certificato penale
 

Originally Posted by philat98 (Post 13002245)
Ruby2 mentioned a useful facebook group.https://www.facebook.com/groups/britishcitizensinitaly/

Thank you, I will try there.

modicasa May 4th 2021 4:57 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 
Yes, I ordered a copy of my birth certificate and ACRO, and they sent them to Milton Keynes, got them legalised and then MK forwarded them here. It was remarkably easy, but not cheap. Your ACRO is only valid for 6 months, so dont hang around once youve got it, get your application in.

Isakat May 4th 2021 7:11 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 
Thank you for the heads up on the expiry. I also need this certificate from a previous country I lived in, which requires me to go there in person. Obviously I can go there once I am vaccinated..... So, I will get the ACRO last.
Do you know if I also need to go to a tribunale here and get the certificato for Italy as well since I have lived here a while? Thanks.

modicasa May 4th 2021 7:15 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 
No I didnt - I guess the immigration people can check your Italian criminal record directly.

scrubbedexpat077 May 5th 2021 3:04 am

Re: Certificato penale
 
I would say only a recent DBS is an equivalent of a "certificato penale". I have a recent certificate from ACRO and it says clearly it doesn't substitute a DBS.

nicktonight May 6th 2021 8:45 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 

Originally Posted by Isakat (Post 13002574)
I also need this certificate from a previous country I lived in,

Do they ask you about the other countries you lived in during the citizenship process then? I am hoping to get away with just sending in my UK certificate

modicasa May 6th 2021 11:56 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 
They want all your addresses from since you left home... with relevant certificates, but I dont know how far back they go.

philat98 May 7th 2021 1:37 am

Re: Certificato penale
 

Originally Posted by modicasa (Post 13003458)
They want all your addresses from since you left home... with relevant certificates, but I dont know how far back they go.

Personally I wouldnt bother with things like University lodgings or short term work assignments. What use is that information anyway?

Isakat May 7th 2021 9:32 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 

Originally Posted by nicktonight (Post 13003407)
Do they ask you about the other countries you lived in during the citizenship process then? I am hoping to get away with just sending in my UK certificate

Yes, they want certificates from the countries you have lived in. I cant get away with just a UK one, I was born in another country before I moved to the UK. The birth certificate will ring bells if I send only a UK certificato penale.

philat98 May 7th 2021 10:49 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 
Look at the mountain of documents you need just for a permesso di soggiorno for a third country national.
https://nancygoestoitaly.com/long-term-permesso/

nicktonight May 7th 2021 10:58 pm

Re: Certificato penale
 
Thanks for the info. I will have to get one from France too. Quite an expensive business getting cittadinanza now then with the price of all the original documents, their legalisation, translation and recertification + Italian language certificate and fixed charge.


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