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Old Sep 2nd 2012 | 9:49 pm
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and workers rights .......I've been 'precaria' for 8 years now
Only 8! A dear friend and brillant teacher just got to the top of the list after over 15yrs. Just in time too if the proposed 'concorso' goes through.
 
Old Sep 2nd 2012 | 9:53 pm
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None of my friends in the UK are precaria Mark - but that might be cos the Channel Islands have a particular job market.
I teach in a private school.
Well that's no surprise then, even though it's still terrible.

Friends I graduated with have already become headteachers in the UK .. in fact has already retired. (not even 50..).
 
Old Sep 3rd 2012 | 3:35 am
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and workers rights .......I've been 'precaria' for 8 years now
My wife is in the same position (7 years )
 
Old Sep 3rd 2012 | 3:39 am
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Only 8! A dear friend and brillant teacher just got to the top of the list after over 15yrs. Just in time too if the proposed 'concorso' goes through.
Hi 37100,

I googled an article on the new concorso and it said (if I understood it correctly) That it is only for new teachers, and teachers like Mrs Sensible will not be eligible. She has been teaching for the past 7 years but I think she was already on the list.
 
Old Sep 3rd 2012 | 4:52 am
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Hi 37100,

I googled an article on the new concorso and it said (if I understood it correctly) That it is only for new teachers, and teachers like Mrs Sensible will not be eligible. She has been teaching for the past 7 years but I think she was already on the list.
True, that is what they've said, but (always a but) they haven't said what the position of the 'old' teachers will be as they have said that there will be a time limit. The new concorso afaik is for the number of vacancies available. So what's the point of it? There are no places after the old ones have filled the vacancies. Am I the only one who can remember the last concorso (1998?) was supposed to be the last ever. If I see any thing, I'll pm it to you.
 
Old Sep 3rd 2012 | 5:05 am
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True, that is what they've said, but (always a but) they haven't said what the position of the 'old' teachers will be as they have said that there will be a time limit. The new concorso afaik is for the number of vacancies available. So what's the point of it? There are no places after the old ones have filled the vacancies. Am I the only one who can remember the last concorso (1998?) was supposed to be the last ever. If I see any thing, I'll pm it to you.
Hi 37100,

Thanks, please if you hear anything let me know.

Mrs sensible said half the places will go to new teachers and half to existing teachers. Whichever way they do it, it is unfair. Teachers should be employed by ability not because they have points gained by teaching. She also said the exam will be the same regardless of the school, ie infants, junior, middle etc. Typical Italian stupidity.
 
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Hi 37100,

Thanks, please if you hear anything let me know.

Mrs sensible said half the places will go to new teachers and half to existing teachers. Whichever way they do it, it is unfair. Teachers should be employed by ability not because they have points gained by teaching. She also said the exam will be the same regardless of the school, ie infants, junior, middle etc. Typical Italian stupidity.
Quite normal. We're talking about 'posti', not 'una carriera' or 'un lavoro'.
 
Old Apr 22nd 2013 | 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by homeandgardens
I like living in Bergamo. Several daily flights to the UK and rest of Europe. Rich of cultural events. It gets hot sometimes during the summer, but you can escape to the nearby mountains. 45 min by train or car to Milan. 3h to Venice, Bologna and Turin. Close to lakes. A little expensive but prices have changed a lot in the last years. It is also a major industrial and logistics area, so there might be more chances to find work. A little provincial for some aspects and more Middle-Europe than mediterranean, they speak a dialect that sounds a little German and French . Recently they opened an international school, but if I had kids I'd send them to local schools. Brescia, Como, Verbania, Ferrara, Padova, Parma, Novara, Bra, are other nice mid sized northern towns that come to my mind. Good luck.
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Old Apr 23rd 2013 | 3:17 am
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My daughter moved out here 7 years ago with a 6month old , 3 year, 7 year and 10 year. As said some of the education is not the best we live on the boarder of umbria/ tuscany. The education in Tuscany is far better than umbria. All the kids are doing ok they all speak english and Italian perfectly and can translate very quickly. We so far have not found humidity a problem to date, and you do aclimatise to some degree, i remember my son in law coming home from work and laying flat out on the stone tiles asleep to tired to eat. but he seems to cope now.
 
Old Apr 25th 2013 | 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by Nijntje
Hi everyone
I'm so sorry, I know its not the 'done thing' to barge into a forum asking questions without first reading and referencing past posts, but I hope you will forgive me.
I have 4 small children (5, 2, & 2x7 months) and I will trawl through everything on this forum in due course, but as you might imagine my free time is a little limited right now and I really need your help.
My husband and I would like to move to Italy in a year or two. At the moment this is as far as we have got. And so I am asking you if you can give us some ideas about where we might look at in terms of regions.
We would like to live in the outskirts of a small town. but within 30-40 mins driving distance of a city. I would prefer less heat, certainly less humidity, so maybe north?
We are at the very start of our research so all opinions/advice are welcome. My husband will need to find work in logistics/transportation but I'm leaving that to him!
We are planning on renting for a year or two before buying somewhere.
Any pointers appreciated.
Thanks, Rebecca
Just a couple of thoughts : there is no NHS out here and the farmacia can be very expensive.
Yes, doctors write prescriptions, but they are not all necessarily "free" ones.
 
Old Apr 25th 2013 | 6:00 am
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Just a couple of thoughts : there is no NHS out here and the farmacia can be very expensive.
Yes, doctors write prescriptions, but they are not all necessarily "free" ones.
cos there is a nhs out here if you are in the sythem you pay next to nothing perhaps 2 eros not like 9 pound or whatever in the uk yes things like painkillers are expencive but to say there is no nhs is misleading
 
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You are right, of course, linseed oil; there is indeed an excellent health service out here, BUT, not in the sense that the NHS is understood in the UK ... a "free" health service from hatch to dispatch.
Here in the North, we have had to pay for all our blood tests, X-rays, etc., etc.
(And no complaints; we knew this when we arrived seven years ago)
Perhaps it is different elsewhere in Italy.
 
Old Apr 25th 2013 | 6:55 am
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You are right, of course, linseed oil; there is indeed an excellent health service out here, BUT, not in the sense that the NHS is understood in the UK ... a "free" health service from hatch to dispatch.
Here in the North, we have had to pay for all our blood tests, X-rays, etc., etc.
(And no complaints; we knew this when we arrived seven years ago)
Perhaps it is different elsewhere in Italy.
No, it's not 'free', but you don't pay the full cost of your blood tests etc. Can still be expensive though. When one of our sons had a op outside our region, pre-op tests had to be done at our local hospital and we had to pay the ticket on all of them. Some test actual work out cheaper or only slightly dearer if done privately.
 
Old Apr 25th 2013 | 9:03 am
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no were is heven on earth but i must say having usede the italian health service more than i would like i have nothing but praise for it clean hospitals results back the same day , and if you have somthing that is deamed serios and recuring you get exemtion from the charges for blood tests ect all in all verry good and how the do it when the country is virtulaly bankrupet i dont know
 
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Again, I agree with you totally. It was just an area that hadn't been raised regarding the original query from Nijntje/Rebecca about life in Italy.
 

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