Bali finding a place in bali
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Plans have changed I decided to go to Indonesia., on a 5-year visa, is Bali cheap for a bedroom or a Studio for a year simple place? I am looking for. Does Anyone know how to find one or a real estate agent in Bali, working on my visa... it asks for a residence
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What 5 year visa is that? There are conditions attached to all visa including renting accomodation
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A five-year visa to live in Bali? The imagination boggles...
When I was looking for us in East Java, the conditions for most long-term visas were (this pre-Covid) you had to rent a property for minimum US $500 a month, employ a maid, and pay for health insurance which at my age would have cost thousands. An agent in Surabaya quoted me AUD $3000 for the visa I thought was most suitable. We turned him down.
I am retired but my partner still works in a profession in Australia. I alternate between time in SE Asia and then home. At my age health care in a concern. Pre-Covid I rented in Sanur (Bali) for 18 months but had to leave quickly in 2020. Now I no longer stay in Bali, for me it's too expensive, too consumerist, no interest in discos/clubs/fusion cafes, and no 'romantic' reasons for me to be there. East Java is more laid back and far less expensive.
I now visit Indonesia (not Bali) for two-month periods. The visa on arrival is for 30 days and costs US$35 (AUD $50) which I pay at the airport, in Indonesian rupiahs.
A second 30-day visa costs me AUD $150 in Malang. Surabaya price is AUD $250. Plus transport to and from the immi office as you have to turn up each and eery time you renew for fingerprinting and a photo. So far I've not been refused a second month visa but the possibility is there. Indonesia now wants foreigners to go through an immi agent for visas, which ups the cost by whatever the agent decides they can stick you for. Mine in Malang is reasonable, the one in Surabaya was genial but hopeless.
After 60 days I hop over to Malaysia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, whichever SE Asian country appeals most at the time, for a week or ten days. Then back to Indonesia for another spin on the visa merry-go-round. I generally stay less than six months and then go home to Australia for a while, then back again. While I still can and before age wearies me.
Anyway - to respond directly to your question, renting longer-term in Bali these days can be a mine field.
Most owners want a year's rent in advance. They often ask for two times what is expected to be paid for any place. One has to bargain accordingly.
Many rental contracts have 'hidden' clauses. Often the tenant is expected to maintain the property, which means if a cheap 10 year old water system breaks down, you have to pay to replace it. Ditto insect infestations, snakes in one's garden, rubbish removal, street cleaning.
One owner actually expected me to pay all the taxes on his house. A lawyer in Denpasar drew my attention to this and I dropped out of the agreement. Best AUD $50 I ever spent for legal advice, it saved me a few thousand.
If you find somewhere you want to rent, it will pay you to discuss the lease with a notaris (lawyer) before you commit to a lease. There are good owners and landlords but Bali nowadays is very money-grabby, they want to make up for the Covid drop in tourism.
If you aren't living in Indonesia for work or 'romance' reasons, I suggest you consider Malaysia or even Thailand. The smaller cities in Malaysia are entirely unlike Kuala Lumpur, Melaka or Penang, and Chiangmai in Thailand is still refreshingly much like it was in 2004.
Whatever you decide, good wishes and good luck.
When I was looking for us in East Java, the conditions for most long-term visas were (this pre-Covid) you had to rent a property for minimum US $500 a month, employ a maid, and pay for health insurance which at my age would have cost thousands. An agent in Surabaya quoted me AUD $3000 for the visa I thought was most suitable. We turned him down.
I am retired but my partner still works in a profession in Australia. I alternate between time in SE Asia and then home. At my age health care in a concern. Pre-Covid I rented in Sanur (Bali) for 18 months but had to leave quickly in 2020. Now I no longer stay in Bali, for me it's too expensive, too consumerist, no interest in discos/clubs/fusion cafes, and no 'romantic' reasons for me to be there. East Java is more laid back and far less expensive.
I now visit Indonesia (not Bali) for two-month periods. The visa on arrival is for 30 days and costs US$35 (AUD $50) which I pay at the airport, in Indonesian rupiahs.
A second 30-day visa costs me AUD $150 in Malang. Surabaya price is AUD $250. Plus transport to and from the immi office as you have to turn up each and eery time you renew for fingerprinting and a photo. So far I've not been refused a second month visa but the possibility is there. Indonesia now wants foreigners to go through an immi agent for visas, which ups the cost by whatever the agent decides they can stick you for. Mine in Malang is reasonable, the one in Surabaya was genial but hopeless.
After 60 days I hop over to Malaysia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, whichever SE Asian country appeals most at the time, for a week or ten days. Then back to Indonesia for another spin on the visa merry-go-round. I generally stay less than six months and then go home to Australia for a while, then back again. While I still can and before age wearies me.
Anyway - to respond directly to your question, renting longer-term in Bali these days can be a mine field.
Most owners want a year's rent in advance. They often ask for two times what is expected to be paid for any place. One has to bargain accordingly.
Many rental contracts have 'hidden' clauses. Often the tenant is expected to maintain the property, which means if a cheap 10 year old water system breaks down, you have to pay to replace it. Ditto insect infestations, snakes in one's garden, rubbish removal, street cleaning.
One owner actually expected me to pay all the taxes on his house. A lawyer in Denpasar drew my attention to this and I dropped out of the agreement. Best AUD $50 I ever spent for legal advice, it saved me a few thousand.
If you find somewhere you want to rent, it will pay you to discuss the lease with a notaris (lawyer) before you commit to a lease. There are good owners and landlords but Bali nowadays is very money-grabby, they want to make up for the Covid drop in tourism.
If you aren't living in Indonesia for work or 'romance' reasons, I suggest you consider Malaysia or even Thailand. The smaller cities in Malaysia are entirely unlike Kuala Lumpur, Melaka or Penang, and Chiangmai in Thailand is still refreshingly much like it was in 2004.
Whatever you decide, good wishes and good luck.
Last edited by DownUnder69; Jun 29th 2024 at 2:26 pm.




