Rabbie

O.K maybe she's not, but she's got good reason to. She was born in Perth
WA. Our two small kids now have citizenship. She wants to go back to
Australia. I'm not so sure.

Sorry if this has been answered before, but what are my chances of being
allowed in. I assume I can gain a working visa via sponsorship from my
Wife. I'm in mid to late thirties, work in IT, of Scottish descent.

How bad/good is the IT market in WA.

Should I take my eldest boy out of school, and go. He's in an excellent
infants school, and says he wants to go to Australia for a holiday, but
wants to come back to his new school. So big decisions, as you probably
know.

I'm looking for reasons not to go, since there are too many reasons why
we should go (We were out there a few years ago and loved every minute)

My wife is scared stiff of spiders, is that enough for me to convince
her not to go.

Don't get me wrong I would love to go, but I need convincing.

Cheers,

Rabbie

WBB

to be air mate most of us here are in the opposite boat to yourself, we cant wait to go, but each to his own.

there are a lot of big decisions to make kids, school, health, friends etc etc and only you can say whats best for you really.

good luck whatever you decide to do.

Jaj

    >On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:06:39 +0000 (UTC), Rabbie <[email protected]> wrote:
    >O.K maybe she's not, but she's got good reason to. She was born in Perth
    >WA. Our two small kids now have citizenship. She wants to go back to
    >Australia. I'm not so sure.
    >Sorry if this has been answered before, but what are my chances of being
    >allowed in. I assume I can gain a working visa via sponsorship from my
    >Wife. I'm in mid to late thirties, work in IT, of Scottish descent.

It looks like you would qualify for a permanent spouse visa straight
away. That's going to be the easiest/quickest way for you to get to
live there. Have a look at the DIMIA website under spouse visas.

With a permanent visa you'll be able to become an Australian citizen
yourself after 2 years resident there.

If your wife has not got British citizenship she should apply for
naturalisation asap. Otherwise she risks losing her UK settled status
(if that's what she has) if she leaves the UK to live in Australia.
Information is at http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk


    >How bad/good is the IT market in WA.

IT market is not good anywhere in Australia. Perth's market is a lot
smaller than Sydney or Melbourne, but search around on this forum for
what others with experience of Perth say.

    >Should I take my eldest boy out of school, and go. He's in an excellent
    >infants school, and says he wants to go to Australia for a holiday, but
    >wants to come back to his new school. So big decisions, as you probably
    >know.

I can't speak from personal experience, but I understand that children
at primary/infants age are much more adaptable and easier to bring
overseas than kids in the teenage years.

    >I'm looking for reasons not to go, since there are too many reasons why
    >we should go (We were out there a few years ago and loved every minute)

If you liked it out there, why are you looking for reasons not to go?


    >My wife is scared stiff of spiders, is that enough for me to convince
    >her not to go.

If you say she's from Australia, she already knows the deal with
spiders (ie they're there but you don't see them that often).


Jeremy
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Jeff

"Rabbie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > O.K maybe she's not, but she's got good reason to. She was born in Perth
    > WA. Our two small kids now have citizenship. She wants to go back to
    > Australia. I'm not so sure.
    > Sorry if this has been answered before, but what are my chances of being
    > allowed in. I assume I can gain a working visa via sponsorship from my
    > Wife. I'm in mid to late thirties, work in IT, of Scottish descent.
    > How bad/good is the IT market in WA.
    > Should I take my eldest boy out of school, and go. He's in an excellent
    > infants school, and says he wants to go to Australia for a holiday, but
    > wants to come back to his new school. So big decisions, as you probably
    > know.
    > I'm looking for reasons not to go, since there are too many reasons why
    > we should go (We were out there a few years ago and loved every minute)
    > My wife is scared stiff of spiders, is that enough for me to convince
    > her not to go.
    > Don't get me wrong I would love to go, but I need convincing.

Come off it!
It'll be great. Your boy might sulk for not going back to the same
school....at least until you got on the plane.
There are too many reasons to go and if there are no real reasons to stay
then why give it a second thought.

If you don't make the most of this easy opportunity then there's all the
rest of us on this group still stewing - waiting in limbo - going to get
mighty miffed. There could be a lynching! That's one more reason to go :-)

    > Cheers,
    > Rabbie

WBB

lol good point

BrisbaneBrummie

Hmmmm.......sounds to me like you want someone to say you shouldn't go? Reverse Psychology methinks?

We have all gone through stages of feelings, but like Welshboybilly said, most of us are itching to go......

Whatever choice you make.......you should be 100% sure, with no doubts....

Good luck

Trev

maxpaxx

........because if you don't you'll regret it...as for the kids you would be giving them a fantastic start to life in a more relaxed way with better educational prospects and a healthier outdoor lifestyle...lifes too short for rain,Tony Blair and rip off Britain!

Good Luck!

Jaj

Most people have some doubts at the start of any major life change.
That's fairly natural.

The important thing is to:
a. be committed, at least to the extent of giving Australia a chance
(so you don't go home after a week)
b. think through in advance what happens if things don't go to plan
(eg like fiding a job is harder than expected).

Jeremy

    >On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:21:34 +0000, BrisbaneBrummie <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Hmmmm.......sounds to me like you want someone to say you shouldn't go?
    >Reverse Psychology methinks?
    >We have all gone through stages of feelings, but like Welshboybilly
    >said, most of us are itching to go......
    >Whatever choice you make.......you should be 100% sure, with no
    >doubts....
    >Good luck
    >Trev
    >--
    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Rabbie

JAJ wrote:

    >>My wife is scared stiff of spiders, is that enough for me to convince
    >>her not to go.
    >
    >
    > If you say she's from Australia, she already knows the deal with
    > spiders (ie they're there but you don't see them that often).

Jeremy/All,

Thanks for your thoughts. When I said my wife was from Australia, what I
really meant was she was a £10 Brummie immigrant. Born there but left
age 3 or 4.

She doesnt like spiders big style. We were out there in the mid
Ninety's, but were too Stubbied up to bother about these things. Now it
is a major phobia for her.

Appreciate all the feedback I've had, and yeah maybe there is some
reverse phsycology involved. A move like this needs serious thought, I'm
trying to cover every angle at the moment.

Biggest issue is breaking the news to the parents, but they are hundreds
of miles away anyway (a few thousand more isnt going to make any
difference, might send them a postcard when were ther :-))

As for being lynched if I dont go, I will probably be lynched if I do.
Cant win! So might as well go.

Thanks for your feedback, this newsgroup is a wealth of info. Goodluck
to all wanting to go.

Cheers,

Rabbie

bondipom

You sound eligible for a work visa but there are a few ifs and buts. Download booklet 1127 from www.immi.gov.au/allforms and have a good read. After that you can ask the questions about the finer details. Average processing takes 4 months but most people get their visa quicker.

The IT market is tough here and there are people on this forum and the lifestyle forum have taken pay cuts to work in Perth. It has also taken them months and in some cases years to get a job.

If I were you I would go on a big holiday to Perth with the Mrs. If she hasn't been back in a while she might realise that life in Scotland isn't too bad after all. My Australian wife sees Australia in a different light since returning.

leanda

If you need convincing then maybe you shouldnt!!!!!

Protect The Innocent

I think that is a bit unfair.

I am sure that most people have doubts at some stage in the process. I am
off in January and whilst I cant wait to get there I do wonder whether i
will get a job, my partner will get a job, my step-son will settle, the OZ
house market will crash as soon as I buy, family and friends will miss me
etc.

Too not have some concerns / worries is actually more worrying i think, as
that means perhaps you are not looking at some of the realities of the
move - whilst it is a wonderful place, OZ is no Eutopia.

Dave

"leanda" <member9311@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > If you need convincing then maybe you shouldnt!!!!!
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

BrisbaneBrummie

[QUOTE what I
really meant was she was a £10 Brummie immigrant. [/QUOTE]

Blimey......that makes two of us! LOL

Rabbie

Protect The Innocent wrote:
    > I think that is a bit unfair.
    >
    > I am sure that most people have doubts at some stage in the process. I am
    > off in January and whilst I cant wait to get there I do wonder whether i
    > will get a job, my partner will get a job, my step-son will settle, the OZ
    > house market will crash as soon as I buy, family and friends will miss me
    > etc.
    >
    > Too not have some concerns / worries is actually more worrying i think, as
    > that means perhaps you are not looking at some of the realities of the
    > move - whilst it is a wonderful place, OZ is no Eutopia.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    > "leanda" <member9311@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>If you need convincing then maybe you shouldnt!!!!!
    >>--
    >>Posted via http://britishexpats.com
    >
    >
    >
Thanks Dave.

As I metioned in a previous post I'm trying to cover all angles. We have
an opportunity to change our families life for the better, but there are
many issues that need addressing. I reckon the ideas of Eutopia comes
into many peoples thoughts, when thinking of moving away from the UK.
Although Blairs Britain is a compelling enough reason (IR35 for all you
contractors out there). To think I used to hate Thatcher. There are many
other issues that need taking into consideration.

I am embarking on a journey, before I even step foot on a plane. There
are pros and cons for going and staying. I appreciate that I'm probably
a bit more fortunate than some others on this forum, in terms of my
ability to get there, but that doesnt make things easier believe me!

First and foremost, it must be the right decision for my Family. The
questions I have asked, and have been answered contructively, are
helping in that overall decision making progress.

I got a bollocking from my Wife for calling her a £10 Brummmie Immigrant
(Brisbanebrummie, you might be related to her :-).)


Again thanks for the effort to help Us make a decision.

Cheers,

Rabbie.

P.S How much is a Whisky in Perth, Big factor in the decision making
process ;-)

bondipom

Be careful they always mix the scotch with ice. Check out the lifestyle forum for the pros and cons of living in OZ. Shame you can't try and buy.