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Old Jan 1st 2003, 11:22 pm
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As a relatively new member I have come across the phrase "application date" numerous times. When exactly is this?
E.g. when I sent off for the skills assessment. Probably a dumb question but I thought I would ask any way.
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No afraid not Mark

The application date is the date that you put on the full application form you then post this and wait and wait and wait
But do not get downhearted I'm sure they use the delay to see if you're serious about going!
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Originally posted by Rossi
No afraid not Mark

The application date is the date that you put on the full application form you then post this and wait and wait and wait
But do not get downhearted I'm sure they use the delay to see if you're serious about going!
Thanks for clearing that one up, that will teach me to be optomistic
 
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Actually, legally, the date you send off your application by courier/post has no significance. It's the date that DIMIA/ASPC receives your application that matters, as this will determine the date your application is lodged.

Normally, the date of lodgement of your application has little practical significance, other than serving as the official marker to denote the amount of time you've spent waiting for your visa.

However, there are times (it happened in May 2002) when DIMIA decides to modify the passmarks, and only apply the modified passmarks on applications received after a certain date. In this case, for instance, the date of lodgement of your application will be used by DIMIA to determine how your application will be treated.

This date of application will be indicated in your letter of acknowledgement from ASPC/DIMIA a few weeks after you send in your PR application.


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Originally posted by Rossi
The application date is the date that you put on the full application form you then post this and wait and wait and wait
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In that case my application date is 24-05-02 as written on the recipt from Adelaide. I suppose a realistic time for my medical requests would be some time in March or there after(wishful thinking).
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The date of actual application is usually NOT the date on the receipt. The application often arrives a good 1 to 5 weeks before it is receipted. So the date of application that is recorded on the system (and is usually included in the first paragraph of the letter that is sent to the visa applicant) is well before this receipt date.

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I have to wait until March 01, 2003 to meet the 3 years of work experience, accoding to March 2000 deeming date stated by ACS

Could I send my app. to DIMIA about Feb. 20-22, taking into account that the courier would delay 7-10 days, stating March 01 as application date on form 47SK ?

Are there any risks that DIMIA could change requirements between February and March ? I am IT engineer and reach 120 points (without MODL)

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Old Jan 4th 2003, 10:47 pm
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    >On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 12:45:32 +0000, carlos kiwi wrote:
    >I have to wait until March 01, 2003 to meet the 3 years of work
    >experience, accoding to March 2000 deeming date stated by ACS

That would leave you quite borderline, which is not a good idea.
If they took the view that the date of effect was end-March 2000 you'd
be in trouble.

    >Could I send my app. to DIMIA about Feb. 20-22, taking into account that
    >the courier would delay 7-10 days, stating March 01 as application date
    >on form 47SK ?

Again, it's very dangerous to send applications when you're going to
be borderline.


    >Are there any risks that DIMIA could change requirements between
    >February and March ? I am IT engineer and reach 120 points
    >(without MODL)

There is always a risk that requirements could change. There's a good
chance of a change in March affecting onshore students, and they may
change the offshore requirements too. Then they announce the new
program for 2003/04 in May time, and may implement changes then.

You (or your agent, if you have one) will have to weigh that up
against the risk of being refused under existing requirements if you
apply too soon.

There's also the issue of when your ACS assessment will expire.

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Originally posted by Jaj
    >On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 12:45:32 +0000, carlos kiwi wrote:
    >I have to wait until March 01, 2003 to meet the 3 years of work
    >experience, accoding to March 2000 deeming date stated by ACS

That would leave you quite borderline, which is not a good idea.
If they took the view that the date of effect was end-March 2000 you'd
be in trouble.



    >Are there any risks that DIMIA could change requirements between
    >February and March ? I am IT engineer and reach 120 points(without MODL)

There is always a risk that requirements could change. There's a good
chance of a change in March affecting onshore students, and they may
change the offshore requirements too. Then they announce the new
program for 2003/04 in May time, and may implement changes then.
You (or your agent, if you have one) will have to weigh that up
against the risk of being refused under existing requirements if you
apply too soon.
There's also the issue of when your ACS assessment will expire.
Jeremy
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Are there any "official" DIMIA guidelines about deeming dates ?
If my skills assessment states: "as of March 2000" , should I consider March 1st or March 31st ?

Thanks
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Ours also says "as of June 1999". I think that to be on the safe side, you should get the last letter of reference from an employer dated 1st April 2003, cause it would be horrible to lose it for such a small detail.

BTW, the 1st April thing is a total coincidence - no April's Fools joke intended.
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Originally posted by Lana
Ours also says "as of June 1999". I think that to be on the safe side, you should get the last letter of reference from an employer dated 1st April 2003, cause it would be horrible to lose it for such a small detail.

BTW, the 1st April thing is a total coincidence - no April's Fools joke intended.
Thank you Lana
So I will have to wait until Apr.1st

Have you applied as a translator from Brazil ?
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My husband applied as an Applications and Analyst Programmer. I didn't get my assessment as a translator cause we didn't need the points, and there is literally no work for me as a translator once I get there. I will probably go back to school instead.
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There is a policy manual but that is not available online.
What you are trying to do is definitely not a do-it-yourself job, do
yourself a favour and hire a professional asap.

Jeremy

    >>
    >Are there any "official" DIMIA guidelines about deeming dates ?
    >If my skills assessment states: "as of March 2000" , should I consider
    >March 1st or March 31st ?
    >Thanks
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Originally posted by Jaj
    There is a policy manual but that is not available online.
What you are trying to do is definitely not a do-it-yourself job, do
yourself a favour and hire a professional asap.

Jeremy


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I did my skills without a professional and I will do my 47SK form by myself.
In my country a professional charges you u$s 3000, just to tell you what papers you should collect and how to fill a couple of forms.
If you consider that a good salary here for an IT professional is about 400-600 u$s a month, it is unthinkable to have to work 5-8 months just to pay that guy

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Old Jan 6th 2003, 9:36 am
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Why not hire an Australian agent?

Many reputable agents charge no more than A$2000 (that's US$1200 or
so) to handle an entire skilled application. If you've already done
your skills assessment then you should be able to negotiate a
discount. In fact, if all you want is an opinion on your work
experience and a submission if necessary, it should be possible for a
few hundred dollars (and probably A$ dollars at that).

It's up to you, but if you get refused there's no refund of the A$1745
application fee.

Jeremy

    >On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 21:34:26 +0000, carlos kiwi wrote:
    >Originally posted by Jaj
    >> There is a policy manual but that is not available online.
    >> What you are trying to do is definitely not a do-it-yourself job, do
    >> yourself a favour and hire a professional asap.
    >> Jeremy
    >>
    >> This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
    >I did my skills without a professional and I will do my 47SK form
    >by myself.
    >In my country a professional charges you u$s 3000, just to tell you what
    >papers you should collect and how to fill a couple of forms.
    >If you consider that a good salary here for an IT professional is about
    >400-600 u$s a month, it is unthinkable to have to work 5-8 months just
    >to pay that guy
    >Regards
    >Carlos
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