Protect The Inn

Hi

Can anyone provide any opinions on Wanneroo (Nr Joondalup) in WA. Particularly in
reference to crime, schools, shops, ease of travel to perth CBD, etc

Looking at a real estate site house prices seem to be cheaper here - just wondered
waht the reason for this was

Any help appreciated, as always

Dave

Helena

"Protect The Innocent" <[email protected]> wrote

    > Can anyone provide any opinions on Wanneroo (Nr Joondalup) in WA. Particularly in
    > reference to crime, schools, shops, ease of travel to
perth
    > CBD, etc
    >
    > Looking at a real estate site house prices seem to be cheaper here - just wondered
    > waht the reason for this was
    >
    > Any help appreciated, as always

Sorry, I didn't notice this message before ...

I drive through there when I take my daughter to horse-riding every week. It used to
be rural and market-gardens predominantly. Now, large parcels of land are being
converted to housing developments. They're fairly new and I don't know of anyone who
lives there, so I can't give any anecdotes or opinions on what people think of living
there. I don't know about crime but schools are close by. Shops of various sorts are
nearby. Ease of travel - very good. Wanneroo Road is right there, and it's not that
far from the freeway either. The Joondalup area is close too and there's lots of
amenities there.

The houses & yards & developments look neat and tidy. Mostly single-storey. Very
reasonably priced. Pockets of housing amongst market gardens and horsey areas.
Suburbia within country, for now.

Not sure if that's of any assistance but it's definitely not known as a "problem" or
too daggy an area, such as Balga, Girrawheen, Koondoola, Westminster, Nollamara.

Good luck,

Helena

Lisa Simmonds

<snip>
    : Not sure if that's of any assistance but it's definitely not known as a "problem"
    : or too daggy an area, such as Balga, Girrawheen, Koondoola, Westminster, Nollamara.
</snip>

Ok, i've gotta butt in here... I don't want to get flamed for this, and this is not
an attack on helen by any means (read: covering my ass), but what is so bad about
these suburbs? All suburbs have its slum spots, and there are parts of these areas
that are questionable, but i lived in balga, moved to kewdale, and am now back in
balga again.

I've not had any problems living here. Before I would have, but if you haven't driven
through balga and girrawheen of late, you would notice that most of the old "problem"
areas have gone... the only reason why these were/are (whatever your perspective)
problem areas is because of the homeswest housing. Now that that has gone, the land
prices have gone up, and people actually WANT to live here. I live in a nice unit,
only 18 months old.

I've lived in suburbs such as Kewdale, various parts of Balcatta/Stirling and have
also lived in Daglish!! Kewdale wasn't much, we got broken into there...

We've been robbed in balcatta, balga and kewdale... and kewdale and balcatta are
meant to be better than balga!

just my 0.02.

As I said, no need to start a flame war here, but i've seen much worse areas than the
suburbs you mentioned. claremont isn't much better at times, and i've seen some
pretty bad areas in fremantle, mosman park and even peppermint grove!

Protect The Inn

Helena

Thanks for replying to my original question,

Wanneroo does sound like it meets my needs - having never really lived 'inner
city' (except for a few years in Sheffield when at Uni) I am keen to find a
rural(ish) area.

Wanneroo sounds like it has most of what I class as important.

Thanks again for the advice.

Dave "Helena" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Protect The Innocent" <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    > > Can anyone provide any opinions on Wanneroo (Nr Joondalup) in WA. Particularly in
    > > reference to crime, schools, shops, ease of travel to
    > perth
    > > CBD, etc
    > >
    > > Looking at a real estate site house prices seem to be cheaper here -
just
    > > wondered waht the reason for this was
    > >
    > > Any help appreciated, as always
    >
    > Sorry, I didn't notice this message before ...
    >
    > I drive through there when I take my daughter to horse-riding every week.
It
    > used to be rural and market-gardens predominantly. Now, large parcels of land are
    > being converted to housing developments. They're fairly new and I don't know of
    > anyone who lives there, so I can't give any anecdotes or opinions on what people
    > think of living there. I don't know about crime
but
    > schools are close by. Shops of various sorts are nearby. Ease of travel - very
    > good. Wanneroo Road is right there, and it's not that far from the freeway either.
    > The Joondalup area is close too and there's lots of amenities there.
    >
    > The houses & yards & developments look neat and tidy. Mostly
single-storey.
    > Very reasonably priced. Pockets of housing amongst market gardens and
horsey
    > areas. Suburbia within country, for now.
    >
    > Not sure if that's of any assistance but it's definitely not known as a "problem"
    > or too daggy an area, such as Balga, Girrawheen, Koondoola, Westminster, Nollamara.
    >
    > Good luck,
    >
    > Helena

Robert Edwards

Hi Dave,

Are you saying house prices are cheaper where you are than in Wanneroo? (where are
you by the way).......or maybe you meant house prices are cheaper here (as in
Wanneroo) than other places in/near Perth:

Have a look at the following Web Sites, they may be of help to you:

http://www.wanneroo.wa.gov.au/

http://library.joondalup.wa.gov.au/B..._libraries.asp

http://members.iinet.net.au/~quartz/wanneroo.html

http://www.wheretostay.com.au/towns/6/Wanneroo

Regards.

Rob Edwards www.australianaustralia.com www.australianaustralia.com.au
www.allaustralianwebsite.com

"Protect The Innocent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi
    >
    > Can anyone provide any opinions on Wanneroo (Nr Joondalup) in WA. Particularly in
    > reference to crime, schools, shops, ease of travel to
perth
    > CBD, etc
    >
    > Looking at a real estate site house prices seem to be cheaper here - just wondered
    > waht the reason for this was
    >
    > Any help appreciated, as always
    >
    > Dave

hibee

You might want to look at this site . It gives statistics for each area regarding Crime Rate House Prices, etc.

www.propertyvalue.com.au/report1.php

Hope This Helps
Jamie

col

As this is on a subject close to heart, any body know about the sticks e.g. Guilderton gabbadah etc?
also Kinross looked on real estate sites etc but can't find any real info about these places.

Cheers Col

col

gunna push this back to the top (sorry news group people who don't understand)

Col

Protect The Inn

Excellent website - thanks Jamie

Dave "hibee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > You might want to look at this site . It gives statistics for each area regarding
    > Crime Rate House Prices, etc.
    >
    > www.propertyvalue.com.au/report1.php
    >
    > Hope This Helps Jamie
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > jamie sim
    >
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Protect The Inn

I am in the UK and I was clumsily trying to ask why housing prices seemed to be lower
in wanneroo than other nearby areas. I was wondering if there was something in this
area people didnt like (sewerage works, etc, etc)

I have had some very informative responses - thanks to all.

Dave

"Robert Edwards" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi Dave,
    >
    > Are you saying house prices are cheaper where you are than in Wanneroo? (where are
    > you by the way).......or maybe you meant house prices are
cheaper
    > here (as in Wanneroo) than other places in/near Perth:
    >
    > Have a look at the following Web Sites, they may be of help to you:
    >
    > http://www.wanneroo.wa.gov.au/
    >
    > http://library.joondalup.wa.gov.au/B..._libraries.asp
    >
    > http://members.iinet.net.au/~quartz/wanneroo.html
    >
    > http://www.wheretostay.com.au/towns/6/Wanneroo
    >
    > Regards.
    >
    > Rob Edwards www.australianaustralia.com www.australianaustralia.com.au
    > www.allaustralianwebsite.com
    >
    > "Protect The Innocent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi
    > >
    > > Can anyone provide any opinions on Wanneroo (Nr Joondalup) in WA. Particularly in
    > > reference to crime, schools, shops, ease of travel to
    > perth
    > > CBD, etc
    > >
    > > Looking at a real estate site house prices seem to be cheaper here -
just
    > > wondered waht the reason for this was
    > >
    > > Any help appreciated, as always
    > >
    > > Dave
    > >
    >

Helena

"Lisa Simmonds" <[email protected]> wrote

    > <snip>
    > : Not sure if that's of any assistance but it's definitely not known as a "problem"
    > : or too daggy an area, such as Balga, Girrawheen, Koondoola, Westminster,
    > : Nollamara.
    > </snip>
    >
    > Ok, i've gotta butt in here... I don't want to get flamed for this, and
this
    > is not an attack on helen by any means (read: covering my ass), but what
is
    > so bad about these suburbs? All suburbs have its slum spots, and there are parts of
    > these areas that are questionable, but i lived in balga, moved to kewdale, and am
    > now back in balga again.
    >
    > I've not had any problems living here. Before I would have, but if you haven't
    > driven through balga and girrawheen of late, you would notice that most of the old
    > "problem" areas have gone... the only reason why these were/are (whatever your
    > perspective) problem areas is because of the homeswest housing. Now that that has
    > gone, the land prices have gone up,
and
    > people actually WANT to live here. I live in a nice unit, only 18 months old.

Yes, Balga has improved but I still wouldn't suggest it to a newcomer to Perth. It's
getting there, but it isn't for everyone. It's fine if you know what you're getting
into and are willing to wait out the improvement period while a previous problem area
gentrifies, yuppifies, etc. But when you get off the boat, family in tow, nervous,
stressed, feeling lost, etc., you want to move into the best area you can afford, one
that allows you to ease into your new life here, not one that could add more
difficulty. From what I've seen in reported stats and heard from various people,
including the cops, Balga and surrounds still factor on the high-ish end for crime
and dysfunctional families and problems in this part of Perth.

I talked to a man at a barbeque a few months back who had bought two old Homeswest
homes for renting out. He said the only tenants he seemed to be able to attract were
people who either half destroyed the place before absconding without paying the rent,
or nice people who moved out because they didn't feel comfortable in Balga (i.e., one
family said they had nothing in common with their neighbours, none of whom seemed to
have a job, and their son was afraid to go to the local high school). He said he was
selling his properties because he just couldn't make any money off renting the homes
out. Luckily, values have increased somewhat so he's not going to lose money, just
break even. It's not for everyone. It's still a bit on the rough side.

A friend of mine is a substitute teacher and she says that a large proportion of kids
in Balga and surrounding suburbs are problem kids with dysfunctional familes. Sure,
it's improving but it's just not there yet. Most people prefer living around people
from their own socio-economic groups, and Balga and surrounding suburbs are on the
lower end. I don't want to sound like a snob but that's human nature. I wouldn't feel
comfortable in Balga, and neither would I feel comfortable in City Beach or
Peppermint Grove.

    > I've lived in suburbs such as Kewdale, various parts of Balcatta/Stirling and have
    > also lived in Daglish!! Kewdale wasn't much, we got broken into there...
    >
    > We've been robbed in balcatta, balga and kewdale... and kewdale and
balcatta
    > are meant to be better than balga!

Houses are burgled, cars are stolen, purses snatched, etc., everywhere. Every suburb.
I talked to a cop recently at a Neighbourhood Watch meeting and he said that you have
to be vigilant everywhere, yet it amazes him how naive many theft victims are,
leaving stuff unlocked, not having proper locks on doors and windows, overgrown
shrubbery in front of the house, etc. Too many people still view Perth as a big
country town. We might be in some respects, but we're a typical big city for crime
and problems. And stats still show that in this end of the city, suburbs such as
Girrawheen, Mirrabooka, & Balga factor the highest for house burglaries & offences
against people.

    > just my 0.02.
    >
    > As I said, no need to start a flame war here, but i've seen much worse
areas
    > than the suburbs you mentioned. claremont isn't much better at times, and i've seen
    > some pretty bad areas in fremantle, mosman park and even peppermint grove!

I don't view this as a flame war at all, just a relevant and useful forum for airing
various opinions. We may not agree and that's okay. But personally I'd take my
chances in Claremont over Balga anyday (that's if I could afford Claremont). Though,
even if I could afford Peppy Grove, I wouldn't live there if you paid me. It's a
suburb that's one of the best examples I've seen of where having loads of money
doesn't mean you've also got good taste.

Good luck,

Helena

Lisa Simmonds

I don't view this as a flame war at all, just a relevant and useful forum
    : for airing various opinions. We may not agree and that's okay. But personally I'd
    : take my chances in Claremont over Balga anyday (that's if I could afford
    : Claremont).

One of my good friends actually moved from Balga to Claremont... and didn't like
Claremont

but we finally got rid of him..he lives in melbourne now!!!

Though, even if I could afford Peppy Grove, I
    : wouldn't live there if you paid me. It's a suburb that's one of the best examples
    : I've seen of where having loads of money doesn't mean you've also got good taste.

ie. rose hancock porteous or whatever name she happens to go by now.

Snickers

Hiya Dave, Just in case you havn`t seen it have a look at http:www.ausiemove.com its got loads on Perth and environs and details of indi suburbs and with other cities soon to come.

melaniee

out of interest did you ever find out what gabbadah was like. Am looking at moving there or woodridge etc as mandurah area getting too built up.

M

S Oldfield

This may seem rude, but have you been to these areas?
The phrases like, `inner city` or `built up areas` just dont go with these suburbs.
these words relate to places like wandsworth!!!!!!!!