ricky11

Hi this is my story

I applied for skilled migration about 3 years back but my work experience was not genuine. Some agent misguided me and arranged the experience letter. After about 10 months after I lodged application there was personal inquiry from high commission. They then asked for explanation and told me my work experience letter is not genuine. At that time I withdrew my application at that time.

Later I applied for student visa with all my genuine documents and I was granted student visa. My question is can they refuse my migration application after I complete my studies on the basis of my previous application. I mean can they refuse my future application on the basis of character requirements. Please advise me any agents can help me out in my case.

ricky

Dorothy

Yes, they can refuse you later for not being genuine in your first application. I think the first thing you have to do is stop blaming your agent for anything. YOU had to sign the application before it got sent to DIMIA in the first place, so you must have known it was falsified. Take responsibility for it and get on with things.
Second thing you need to do is to hire a MARA registered agent to guide you. You sound like you're going to need help with this time around.

ricky11

My agent misguided me and i know i signed the application. I really didnt knew about the rules thats why i withdrew my application when i came to know about it. Any agents can please tell me about my future application consequenses and anybody can handle my case reply me.

ex_exile

Its not that complicated a case...

Lied, got caught, want to know how to sweep previous lie under the carpet. How can you not know that a false experience letter was against the rules?

Dont expect too much sympathy from posters some of whom are from "High risk" countries who have to endure long and detailed checks to weed out people like you who make false applicatons

Dorothy

How could you not know about the rules of being truthful? You knew your application included false information yet you signed it anyway stating that all the information you provided was true.
Like ex-exile says, the process is there to weed out people who make false claims. You did and got caught so now you will have to face the consequences. If that means you are now not eligible for a visa, then so be it.

Dazza49

Hi,
I suggest you speak to a well credited migration agent. they will be able to give you the correct advice you require. never say never my friend and don't give up until you have no other options. you still have options!

ALLY

Angela Marie - Cairns

I take it from the other posters the opinion is - contact an agent, and yes you could be refused - however they way this is put over on this forum again is an example of why I stopped coming on here a long time ago

mendoncan

This is a lesson for all........... It is best to go the right way with genuine documentation and everything correctly stated. The immigration dept have their reasons for having certain expections such as proper job experience, good English etc from applicants, so that you fit rightly into the work environment and life there.

Because of instances as these everyone belonging to that region/country is doubly scrutinized and has to go through the traumas of long waits etc.

ricky11

Any migration agent please rteply about future application consequenses

welshtony

There is a big character question if you supplied a false document with a previous visa.

Not knowing the exact nature of the false document I can only give a general view. If it is your only "blemish" and happened 3 years ago then you may convince them that what happened 3 years ago was a one off and maybe not all your fault. Did you report the Migration Agent to MARA ?

My biggest question would be whether you declared that you had previously applied for a visa on the Student visa application form as asked ? did you state that you withdrew this application as it asks if it was approved or refused. If you did not mention that you had previously applied for the visa then this is further dishonesty and, in my opinion, they will likely refuse your visa on character grounds. IF you did mention it, and the more detail you revealed the better, you can then claim that this is an indication of your good character and they accepted you as a student in the knowledge that you had withdrawn a previous application.

So did you declare it on the student application ? If you didn't, I would engage an agent who is familiar with the Character process in Australia.

Regards


Tony Coates
MARN 0635896

hitchcock71

sorry did you not think you'd not get caught??? silly

did you put it down on yr student visa as if you didn't then again you have lied and you will never be allowed in oz on charater grounds

very silly

ricky11

dear welshtony,

i did mentioned in the student visa application that i withdrew previous application, i just wrote there withdrawn and didnt attached any information.
The agent was not MARA agent and he didnt put any his details in application.

if i had bad character then why they give me student visa. i supplied all correct information when applied for student visa.
Are there some applications refused similiar to my case.? will my case be refused ? can you suggest any good agent.

thanks

welshtony

The reason that they approved your student visa is that they just closed your previous application when you withdrew and did not enter your details on the Alert List . When you applied for the student visa, they did not retrieve your old file. When you apply for your permanent visa - there will be no question on your application form that you have to alert them about - they do not even ask if you have had previous applications approved or refused like they did on the student application form. So unless they decide to retrieve the old file, and they have no particular reason to do this, then there is a good chance that the bogus document in the previous application will not be an issue.

But it is always a possibility that they might so, if I were you, go ahead and apply answering all questions on forms fully and correctly - if the issue comes up, then you will need to seek specialist help to prepare your defence of what you did.

Regards


Tony Coates
MARN 0635896

alipally

Tony,
I just wanted to say that you have been very helpful to the thread author and I am grateful that there are people on here who do not judge others, by a small 5 sentence post. We have no idea what else led him to do what he did.

We none of us are perfect, we make mistakes, we tell lies... ALL OF US! Even if you say that you are well to a relative stranger who asks when you feel, frankly, like a pile of dung!!!

I'm not religious but the phrase... 'let he who is without sin caste the first stone'
How can we expect to learn from each others mistakes/misdameanours if we act like we would NEVER do such a thing.

Yes we all know that honesty is the best policy, we all know that, but none of us are infallable, please can we exercise some clemency??

ricky11

thanks welshtony for your replies. You said if it happenned before 3 years. what does 3 years means. I lodged that application about three years ago may be more. I would like to tell you that normally we get student visa in 3 months but i got my student visa after about 10 months it was deferred two times dont know why.

If they refuse my application and i appeal to MRT what will be my chances.i dont have any criminal record its only previous application that can create problems.
Can you please suggest me any good agent who knows about the character issues and can help me out in my case. I need some good agent