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Old Sep 10th 2009, 6:09 am
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Hypothetically speaking suppose a person's medicals and PCCs are done in July and his visa is granted in October (both this year), how do the validity pariods work? I realise that the visa would need to be validated before July 2010 but when would the visa be valid until? Would it be July 2015? Or 5 years from first entry? Or....

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Hypothetically speaking suppose a person's medicals and PCCs are done in July and his visa is granted in October (both this year), how do the validity pariods work? I realise that the visa would need to be validated before July 2010 but when would the visa be valid until? Would it be July 2015? Or 5 years from first entry? Or....

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Its valid for 5 years from the date of grant. The date is printed on the visa label
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Its valid for 5 years from the date of grant. The date is printed on the visa label
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From

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sh...5documents.htm

You will also need to watch the RRV rules if you don't turn up for 3 years and then leave after another 2
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Its valid for 5 years from the date of grant. The date is printed on the visa label
Yup. Our visa granted 12 July 2006 and valid for multiple entry until 12 July 2011.
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Yup. Our visa granted 12 July 2006 and valid for multiple entry until 12 July 2011.
Suppose a family settles permanently in Australia 4 years after visa grant would there be problems from the angle of the 3 out of 5 rule?
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Suppose a family settles permanently in Australia 4 years after visa grant would there be problems from the angle of the 3 out of 5 rule?
Possibly for getting a RRV, but if you don't intend to leave the country then a RRV isn't necessary. Your PR visa is just that...Permanent. So, if you do not leave Australia you can stay forever on that first visa and never have to get citizenship or a return resident visa.
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Possibly for getting a RRV, but if you don't intend to leave the country then a RRV isn't necessary. Your PR visa is just that...Permanent. So, if you do not leave Australia you can stay forever on that first visa and never have to get citizenship or a return resident visa.
That makes sense. Thanks.

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Hi all,

I have VISA granted for my wife and 2 kids, all being secondary applicants. Due to personal matters, they will not be going with me to Australia for the time being.

I wish to know, will they (wife and kids) be able to renew their VISA if they do not meet the 2 out of 5 years rule but i as the primary VISA holder meet?

Regards,
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Originally Posted by paul-g
Hi all,

I have VISA granted for my wife and 2 kids, all being secondary applicants. Due to personal matters, they will not be going with me to Australia for the time being.

I wish to know, will they (wife and kids) be able to renew their VISA if they do not meet the 2 out of 5 years rule but i as the primary VISA holder meet?

Regards,
Paul
As I understand it, all peoples on the visa must enter Australia by the date stated and secondary applicants can not enter before the main applicant, once the initial entry is complete all applicants are free to leave and enter at will, as far as Iam aware, for the duration of the visa ( and Im sure someone will correct me if this rule has changed ) you only need to get a residents return visa after your initial visa has run out and you do need to have been an actual resident for 2 years to qualify
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Originally Posted by paul-g
Hi all,

I have VISA granted for my wife and 2 kids, all being secondary applicants. Due to personal matters, they will not be going with me to Australia for the time being.

I wish to know, will they (wife and kids) be able to renew their VISA if they do not meet the 2 out of 5 years rule but i as the primary VISA holder meet?

Regards,
Paul
You do understand that you all must validate your visas don't you?
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Originally Posted by paul-g
Hi all,

I have VISA granted for my wife and 2 kids, all being secondary applicants. Due to personal matters, they will not be going with me to Australia for the time being.

I wish to know, will they (wife and kids) be able to renew their VISA if they do not meet the 2 out of 5 years rule but i as the primary VISA holder meet?

Regards,
Paul
I'll move the thread to the Immi forum for the likes of JAJ to give their opinion, but from what I've read on oither threads -
Firstly they MUST all validate by the date on the visa or their visas will be cancelled.
Secondly - you need to read up on the Return Resident Visa (RRV). As long as they move to Aus before the 5 years are up they don't need to get a RRV or anything until the want to leave again. If they have lived here for 2 years by the time they wish to leave again then they should get a full 5 year RRV. If they haven't been here for the full 2 years when they apply then they would need to show ties to Austrlia that prove it is their home - owning a house, jobs, schools etc.

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/968i.pdf
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Hi Chris, Sally and Pollyana,

Thanks all for your reply. Yes, I'm aware that all of us (myself and all secondary applicants) must make the first trip to Australia to get our VISA validated. We plan to visit Perth end of the year.

Thanks for the attachement. I've read and found one of the point that may answer my concern.

For a 5 year RRV you must also meet one of the following requirements:
> you are the immediate family member of an RRV holder.

So I assume if I have the RRV, all my family members automatically gets the RRV with same validity as well? Please help to confirm.

Thanks a million.
Paul
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Originally Posted by paul-g
Hi Chris, Sally and Pollyana,

Thanks all for your reply. Yes, I'm aware that all of us (myself and all secondary applicants) must make the first trip to Australia to get our VISA validated. We plan to visit Perth end of the year.

Thanks for the attachement. I've read and found one of the point that may answer my concern.

For a 5 year RRV you must also meet one of the following requirements:
> you are the immediate family member of an RRV holder.

So I assume if I have the RRV, all my family members automatically gets the RRV with same validity as well without meeting the 2 out of 5 years stay? Please help to confirm.

Thanks a million.
Paul
Hi all, can anyone here help to confirm my understanding as per above is correct?

Thanks!Paul
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Originally Posted by paul-g
Hi all, can anyone here help to confirm my understanding as per above is correct?

Thanks!Paul
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