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Old Feb 24th 2006, 1:15 pm
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Has anybody had any luck with changing the TRA's mind?

Have just been rejected for trade skills due to not enough time under belt. I have an NVQ level 3 qualification and was hoping to be assessed under the 4 year traineeship / apprentice pathway (only had 2 1/2 years experieince anyway), however have been told that I must go in the 6 year experience pathway. I will be too old to complete 6 years so cant do that.....

Had a career change after 20 years, have 7 'O', 3 'A's, MCIPS, have an Australian citizen sponsor, relationship points, significant funds (but not enough for an investor visa).

Currently thinking of going to Aus for 6 months on a student visa to get an AQFIII qualification (lower than the existing trade related qualification I have) but it would allow me to use pathway E with 900 hours plus work experience.

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Default Re: TRA review .. any point?

Originally Posted by secretgardener
Has anybody had any luck with changing the TRA's mind?

Have just been rejected for trade skills due to not enough time under belt. I have an NVQ level 3 qualification and was hoping to be assessed under the 4 year traineeship / apprentice pathway (only had 2 1/2 years experieince anyway), however have been told that I must go in the 6 year experience pathway. I will be too old to complete 6 years so cant do that.....

Had a career change after 20 years, have 7 'O', 3 'A's, MCIPS, have an Australian citizen sponsor, relationship points, significant funds (but not enough for an investor visa).

Currently thinking of going to Aus for 6 months on a student visa to get an AQFIII qualification (lower than the existing trade related qualification I have) but it would allow me to use pathway E with 900 hours plus work experience.

Any comments

thanks
I would need the details of your TRA application to say what your chances for a successful review could be.

A better strategy than the student visa which would bugger you for meeting Recent Work Experience (and a 6 month course would not give you are waiver on that), would be a workplace assessment for an AQF III which would then require only 4 years experience under the workpalce assessment aspect of Pathway E. As a registered training organisation that specialises in workplace assessments of people trained outside Australia we can assist you in that regard.

Have a look at our web site http://www.alms.com.au and if you think you might like some further advice/assistance on the review and AQF options, email me direct at [email protected]
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Old Feb 26th 2006, 8:25 am
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Question Re: TRA review .. any point?

Originally Posted by Glenn Newton
I would need the details of your TRA application to say what your chances for a successful review could be.

A better strategy than the student visa which would bugger you for meeting Recent Work Experience (and a 6 month course would not give you are waiver on that), would be a workplace assessment for an AQF III which would then require only 4 years experience under the workpalce assessment aspect of Pathway E. As a registered training organisation that specialises in workplace assessments of people trained outside Australia we can assist you in that regard.

Have a look at our web site http://www.alms.com.au and if you think you might like some further advice/assistance on the review and AQF options, email me direct at [email protected]

Glen thanks for response. Classification I was going for was 60 pointer. I thought I only had to have 12 out of last 18 months as recent work experience on the visa application. Course is 6 months, the previous 12 months should still qualify me for recent work experience?

Have you transfered any horticultural qualifications and what has the success rate been with TRA approval on them afterwards.

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Glen thanks for response. Classification I was going for was 60 pointer. I thought I only had to have 12 out of last 18 months as recent work experience on the visa application. Course is 6 months, the previous 12 months should still qualify me for recent work experience?

Have you transfered any horticultural qualifications and what has the success rate been with TRA approval on them afterwards.

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All but 4 TRA classifications are 60 points, and all horticulture classifications are 60 points.

The course might be "6 months" (but most likely 1 semester = 18 weeks), but you have lead time from leaving your job to starting the course and lag time from completing the course to having the necessary documentation required fror the TRA application and then TRA processing time and then the time to finalise and submit the visa application - all of that adds up to more than 6 months or at the very best you would be working to much too fine a time margin with no scope for unforseen delay...and you know about Murphy's law ;-)

Our scope of coverage as an RTO covers virtually all trades, including horticulture and we have experience with horticulture assessments.

My TRA (and other assessing bodies) overall success rate is about 99.75% and 100% for TRA where an AQF qualification through workplace assessment is concerned. But the outcome of any individual case (e.g. yours) depends on its specifics not my track record - and one of the reasons I have success is that I don't take forward cases that I know can't succeed.

I also have to emphasise my that while my role in assisting with a TRA or similar application for migration is that of guide and advocate, my role as an RTO is that of a regulator authorised by government (like TRA but in a domestic context and in a more objective, accurate and fair way) and subject to audit - so I can only issue an AQF qualification where the applicant meets the requirements.

But this is getting too promotional for the purpose of this group so if you want to pursue your options further please email me direct at [email protected]
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Default Re: TRA review .. any point?

Originally Posted by secretgardener
Glen thanks for response. Classification I was going for was 60 pointer. I thought I only had to have 12 out of last 18 months as recent work experience on the visa application. Course is 6 months, the previous 12 months should still qualify me for recent work experience?

Have you transfered any horticultural qualifications and what has the success rate been with TRA approval on them afterwards.

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Glen has got alot of BE members through their TRA, my husband included.

Worth the money in my book.

Good luck anyway

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Originally Posted by Professional Princess
Glen has got alot of BE members through their TRA, my husband included.

Worth the money in my book.

Good luck anyway

Samantha


ditto.

and as you know, got us MODL trade too. couldnt be happier even if we were pigs in poop
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Default Re: TRA review .. any point?

Originally Posted by Glenn Newton
I would need the details of your TRA application to say what your chances for a successful review could be.

A better strategy than the student visa which would bugger you for meeting Recent Work Experience (and a 6 month course would not give you are waiver on that), would be a workplace assessment for an AQF III which would then require only 4 years experience under the workpalce assessment aspect of Pathway E. As a registered training organisation that specialises in workplace assessments of people trained outside Australia we can assist you in that regard.

The option of using Vetassess is one that could perhaps also be considered, especially if the applicant doesn't need points (designated area sponsored, subclass 139). Depends on circumstances. And bearing in mind that the 139 visa will be closed to new applicants on 1 July and replaced with a temporary visa, there's no time to waste.
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