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Hello,
Yes a new student visa requires enrollement in a new course and of course more money out of your pocket.
A 457 is a better option and if you already work in your area and your employer is happy to sponsor you, then this is the easiest and cheapest route (but a 457 has its own requirements too, so check them out first).
Werty1 you seem to have enough information. I wouldn't bother with photos, but your certificate and a letter from your employer as well as payslips should be enough.
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ps: I live in London. I am a migrant twice over: from the Czech republic to Australia and then a return to Europe (of my own accord). I've been in London for about 8 years now and I have well and truly had enough. I now have a fiance here, and a new life, so I am not leaving anytime soon, but come and spend some time living in North London and you will soon be over any doubts you have about why you decided to move to Australia.
The first years may be difficult, but once you are settled I think you will have no regrets.
Yes a new student visa requires enrollement in a new course and of course more money out of your pocket.
A 457 is a better option and if you already work in your area and your employer is happy to sponsor you, then this is the easiest and cheapest route (but a 457 has its own requirements too, so check them out first).
Werty1 you seem to have enough information. I wouldn't bother with photos, but your certificate and a letter from your employer as well as payslips should be enough.
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ps: I live in London. I am a migrant twice over: from the Czech republic to Australia and then a return to Europe (of my own accord). I've been in London for about 8 years now and I have well and truly had enough. I now have a fiance here, and a new life, so I am not leaving anytime soon, but come and spend some time living in North London and you will soon be over any doubts you have about why you decided to move to Australia.
The first years may be difficult, but once you are settled I think you will have no regrets.
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If you move onto a 457 visa please check your pathway to permanent residence - it is not as "automatic" as applying for an onshore skilled visa after a period of study as a student in Australia (though I recognise the need for a skills assessment classification if going for a general skilled visa - as discussed already on this thread).
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The 900 hours needed, is that for every course or just hairdressing? Me or my partner are looking at welfare or bricklaying. Plus couldnt these hours be completed in the 18 month extension visa students can get at the end of studies?
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I don't think you can apply for the graduate visa until you've sent for a skills assessment!
You see the issue people are having?
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900 hours is for the TRA (Trades Recognition Australia), so anyone who will be assessed by them will need them (yes to bricklayer by the way).
I don't think you can apply for the graduate visa until you've sent for a skills assessment!
You see the issue people are having?
I don't think you can apply for the graduate visa until you've sent for a skills assessment!
You see the issue people are having?
I found this for some light bedtime reading....!
http://mia.org.au/download/TRA_Migra...olicy_2008.pdf
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Well thats just bloody great!
I thought the whole point of the bridging visa was for you to get the paid hours experience?! So surely that makes that visa a waste of time.
So in short, they require us to get paid work in a job we are not yet fully qualified in, in order to be able to apply for PR. So they are making things as impossible as they can, so they are able to still get our money for studying but know full well we would struggle to be able to stop after our study period. But we will still pay as we all like to live in hope that we would be lucky enough to get the work.
I know very well we dont apply these demands upon aussies when they apply to live here. Why are we the one always getting screwed over?!?!?!
I thought the whole point of the bridging visa was for you to get the paid hours experience?! So surely that makes that visa a waste of time.
So in short, they require us to get paid work in a job we are not yet fully qualified in, in order to be able to apply for PR. So they are making things as impossible as they can, so they are able to still get our money for studying but know full well we would struggle to be able to stop after our study period. But we will still pay as we all like to live in hope that we would be lucky enough to get the work.
I know very well we dont apply these demands upon aussies when they apply to live here. Why are we the one always getting screwed over?!?!?!
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gagno7, I recomend you go back and read the whole of this thread.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
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gagno7, I recomend you go back and read the whole of this thread.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
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gagno7, I recomend you go back and read the whole of this thread.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
The only problem with that extra time on your student visa after your course ends is this ...
"If the visa holder is not the holder of a subclass 576 (AusAID or Defence sector) visa, they must:
- remain enrolled in a registered course (unless they are a secondary exchange student who holds a subclass 571 (Schools sector) visa, in which case they must be enrolled in a full-time course of study or training);
- achieve satisfactory course progress as determined by their education provider;
- achieve satisfactory attendance as determined by their education provider."
So we reckon at our school that as soon as your course finishes your visa expires.
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Hi Pumpkin Blossom
The only problem with that extra time on your student visa after your course ends is this ...
"If the visa holder is not the holder of a subclass 576 (AusAID or Defence sector) visa, they must:
- remain enrolled in a registered course (unless they are a secondary exchange student who holds a subclass 571 (Schools sector) visa, in which case they must be enrolled in a full-time course of study or training);
- achieve satisfactory course progress as determined by their education provider;
- achieve satisfactory attendance as determined by their education provider."
So we reckon at our school that as soon as your course finishes your visa expires.
The only problem with that extra time on your student visa after your course ends is this ...
"If the visa holder is not the holder of a subclass 576 (AusAID or Defence sector) visa, they must:
- remain enrolled in a registered course (unless they are a secondary exchange student who holds a subclass 571 (Schools sector) visa, in which case they must be enrolled in a full-time course of study or training);
- achieve satisfactory course progress as determined by their education provider;
- achieve satisfactory attendance as determined by their education provider."
So we reckon at our school that as soon as your course finishes your visa expires.
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gagno7, I recomend you go back and read the whole of this thread.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
The graduate visa is to get extra points, if you do not have enough, once you have applied for your skills assessment. Some people don't because of age, language skills etc.
You can get work while doing your course, plenty of people do it, and will be assessed on that. And my visa at least has an extra 3/4 months on after the course finishes. Plenty of time!
Sure you have to be determined and motivated to take this route into the country, but if you really want it you will be.
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Hi, hubbie had the 'chat' from college yesterday bout the 900 hours for TRA changing to having to be paid hours. Not sure if this is 'officially' correct as it was the lecturer that told them all, there were no reps in. They were told that all unpaid work experience done up to 1/9/08 would still be accepted. It doesn't affect us in any way, so far, though for those nearing the end of their course and don't have paid hours, hopefully this is correct.
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i m doing a cookery course n need 900 hrs of assessment from some restuaranti have been working in a lebanese fast food n grilled food for the last two yrs can i use group certificate frm the same place .hat place is registered as a restaurant...but i m confused if i can use certificate frm thr or not as it doesnt have a propr chef like propr restaurants n all....
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So this begs the question:
Which TRA Assessed course do people think is best to go for to get a positive skills assessment based on your 900hrs "unqualified" work?
Which TRA Assessed course do people think is best to go for to get a positive skills assessment based on your 900hrs "unqualified" work?
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Hey everyone, got this reply from an agent on this forum, Welsh Tony,:
When you complete your course, the remaining time on your student visa yo ucan work full-time. When you apply for teh 886, a bridging visa is issued straight away. When the student visa expires, the Bridging visa kicks in and this also allows you to work full-time. Bridging visa is valid through 886 application and MRT if necessary.
So basically, once you complete your course and you still have 3 months at the end of it on the student visa, you can work full time and in the meantime apply for the PR visa, but you must have first applied to the TRA for an assessment even though you may not have the 900 hours paid work experience. Then you keep gaining the hours whilst waiting on a reply knowing that the visa will be refused, once refused you apply to the MRT and keep getting those hours, once you have the 900 hours, the TRA will approve the PR visa, they give you enough time to get them,
Good luck everyone, we are lucky enough to be able to apply for the PR 886 visa as my sister is a citizen in adelaide and when I complete the course and have the 900 hours paid then we can apply for PR straight away unlike some who will have to go onto the graduate visa if they dont have enough points,
Sharon
When you complete your course, the remaining time on your student visa yo ucan work full-time. When you apply for teh 886, a bridging visa is issued straight away. When the student visa expires, the Bridging visa kicks in and this also allows you to work full-time. Bridging visa is valid through 886 application and MRT if necessary.
So basically, once you complete your course and you still have 3 months at the end of it on the student visa, you can work full time and in the meantime apply for the PR visa, but you must have first applied to the TRA for an assessment even though you may not have the 900 hours paid work experience. Then you keep gaining the hours whilst waiting on a reply knowing that the visa will be refused, once refused you apply to the MRT and keep getting those hours, once you have the 900 hours, the TRA will approve the PR visa, they give you enough time to get them,
Good luck everyone, we are lucky enough to be able to apply for the PR 886 visa as my sister is a citizen in adelaide and when I complete the course and have the 900 hours paid then we can apply for PR straight away unlike some who will have to go onto the graduate visa if they dont have enough points,
Sharon
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