Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
#31
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Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
I enquired about a 121 or 856 visa and they agreed (well sort of) response below:
From memory I think permanent residency through business sponsorship requires it to be a ‘highly skilled’ position ‘which can not be filled by the local market’. This may mean that slight changes to the position title and position description will need to be made.
hhhmm
what is the usual proceedure in moving from a 457 visa to one which gives PR?
Thanks
From memory I think permanent residency through business sponsorship requires it to be a ‘highly skilled’ position ‘which can not be filled by the local market’. This may mean that slight changes to the position title and position description will need to be made.
hhhmm
what is the usual proceedure in moving from a 457 visa to one which gives PR?
Thanks
As you'd expect I (and especially The Wife) are a bit concerned seeing anything with 'Temporary', what with two kids, selling the house, etc so will be trying for PR first. Trouble is, my occupation isn't on the skills list, despite the shortage of logistic engineers :-/
Actually, while I think of it, can anyone confirm what the family would be missing out on whilst in-country on a 457 rather than PR?
Cheers :-)
Last edited by Barrian; Oct 24th 2007 at 12:59 pm. Reason: forgot an obvious question
#32
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
Seems more or less the dilemma I have at the moment - have had an email from the Co. to confirm a job offer will be coming my way, and they want to start working the 457 visa process.
As you'd expect I (and especially The Wife) are a bit concerned seeing anything with 'Temporary', what with two kids, selling the house, etc so will be trying for PR first. Trouble is, my occupation isn't on the skills list, despite the shortage of logistic engineers :-/
Actually, while I think of it, can anyone confirm what the family would be missing out on whilst in-country on a 457 rather than PR?
Cheers :-)
As you'd expect I (and especially The Wife) are a bit concerned seeing anything with 'Temporary', what with two kids, selling the house, etc so will be trying for PR first. Trouble is, my occupation isn't on the skills list, despite the shortage of logistic engineers :-/
Actually, while I think of it, can anyone confirm what the family would be missing out on whilst in-country on a 457 rather than PR?
Cheers :-)
In some states Ive heard you have to contribute to schools, dont quote me on this im still trying to find out myself.
A 457 is a quick way in though
#33
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
If you're from UK you get reciprocal health benefits on medicare but it'll still cost you!
Theres a 457 waiting thread on here which may have some useful info for you.
Also theres a wki link on BE that gives a lot of info
#34
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
you have to pay for primary school in NSW but not QLD. Not sure about other states/ages
If you're from UK you get reciprocal health benefits on medicare but it'll still cost you!
Theres a 457 waiting thread on here which may have some useful info for you.
Also theres a wki link on BE that gives a lot of info
If you're from UK you get reciprocal health benefits on medicare but it'll still cost you!
Theres a 457 waiting thread on here which may have some useful info for you.
Also theres a wki link on BE that gives a lot of info
#35
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Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
you have to pay for primary school in NSW but not QLD. Not sure about other states/ages
If you're from UK you get reciprocal health benefits on medicare but it'll still cost you!
Theres a 457 waiting thread on here which may have some useful info for you.
Also theres a wki link on BE that gives a lot of info
If you're from UK you get reciprocal health benefits on medicare but it'll still cost you!
Theres a 457 waiting thread on here which may have some useful info for you.
Also theres a wki link on BE that gives a lot of info
#36
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
No automatic need to anything unless your are going into classrooms (hence the kids) or medical enviroments but they reserve the right to ask for stuff though. We are praying that isn't going to happen now after the kids being cleared 3 weeks ago!
#37
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
because our visa is for 12 months not more.
No automatic need to anything unless your are going into classrooms (hence the kids) or medical enviroments but they reserve the right to ask for stuff though. We are praying that isn't going to happen now after the kids being cleared 3 weeks ago!
No automatic need to anything unless your are going into classrooms (hence the kids) or medical enviroments but they reserve the right to ask for stuff though. We are praying that isn't going to happen now after the kids being cleared 3 weeks ago!
your only there for a year
all the best
#38
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
It doesn't sound like the employer understands the rather fundamental changes made to the employer nominated visa rules in April 2005.
#39
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
If a company is paying repatriation costs, you may have a tax liability on these. The company should be committed to settle the tax liabilty too.
Same goes for any relocation costs they are going to cover for you to move out to Australia. They should be paying any associated tax costs.
#40
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
any kids going into to school will need meds and kids over 12 I think need chest xrays. adults do not need full meds unless they are teachers or healtcare workers I believe.
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Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skill...ligibility.htm
Labour Market Testing disappeared a couple of years ago - save only that some Regional Certifying Bodies ask for LMT when an employer is seeking RCB approval under the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (the regional variant of the ENS).
Best regards.
#42
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
Further to Jeremy's note, information about the eligibility criteria for the approval of the nomination and visa applications under the ENS is on the immi website:
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skill...ligibility.htm
Labour Market Testing disappeared a couple of years ago - save only that some Regional Certifying Bodies ask for LMT when an employer is seeking RCB approval under the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (the regional variant of the ENS).
Best regards.
http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/skill...ligibility.htm
Labour Market Testing disappeared a couple of years ago - save only that some Regional Certifying Bodies ask for LMT when an employer is seeking RCB approval under the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (the regional variant of the ENS).
Best regards.
The other circumstance in which labour market testing may be required is if there's a request to waive some of the standard ENS requirements on "exceptional" grounds, eg the 45 age limit.
#43
Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
well we are really hoping to be there more than a year but this gets us in and we figure its got to be easier job (sponsor) hunting from there than here! if nothing else it'll give us a few more points as we don't have quite enough right now to go independantly of a sponsor
#44
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Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
And to add to what Alan says, even if the job is in a regional area, the Regional Certifying Bodies can be avoided if the applicant is eligible for ENS. The ENS option is available everywhere in Australia, even if RSMS is also there as an alternative.
The other circumstance in which labour market testing may be required is if there's a request to waive some of the standard ENS requirements on "exceptional" grounds, eg the 45 age limit.
The other circumstance in which labour market testing may be required is if there's a request to waive some of the standard ENS requirements on "exceptional" grounds, eg the 45 age limit.
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Re: Subclass 121 versus 457 - Any fundamental differences?
We have found that labour market testing is mentioned as a requirement by most of the RCBs. This can be negotiated, but ultimately satisfying the LMT requirement and the cost of an advert isn't particularly onerous.
Note that RCB approval is only required for a RSMS application - it isn't relevant to a visa application under the Employer Nomination Scheme.
Best regards.
Note that RCB approval is only required for a RSMS application - it isn't relevant to a visa application under the Employer Nomination Scheme.
Best regards.