saturn

Hi,

I completed my bachelor in June 1999.

I had my skills assessed by ACS in September 2002. I shall complete my 3 years of work experience in March next year.

Am I eligible to apply for the Immigration under skill independent category and will I be still getting (60+10) points for skill and 3 years of work experince?

I am quite confused after reading ACS lattest Guidelines. Are these going to effect me?

Saturn.

Jaj

Because of the variable and confusing format of ACS assessments I'm
very reluctant to give any specifics here.

It's probably going to boil down to whether your ACS assessment has a
date of effect on it or not.

All I can suggest is you show your ACS assessment to a good agent and
see what he thinks?

Jeremy

    >On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:39:58 +0000, saturn wrote:
    >Hi,
    >I completed my bachelor in June 1999.
    >I had my skills assessed by ACS in September 2002. I shall complete my 3
    >years of work experience in March next year.
    >Am I eligible to apply for the Immigration under skill independent
    >category and will I be still getting (60+10) points for skill and 3
    >years of work experince?
    >I am quite confused after reading ACS lattest Guidelines. Are these
    >going to effect me?
    >Saturn.
    >--
    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

saturn

Hi Jeremy,

Here are the excerpts from the letter I got from ACS:

"The applicant has a Bachelor of Science, which has been assessed as comparable to an Australian Bachelor degree with a major in computing."

"For the purpose of your migration application, your qualification have been assessed to be suitable for migration under xxx of the ACSO Code."

"This assessment advice is valid for a period of one year from the date of this letter."

and the date on this letter is 1 October, 2002.

Is all this enough to conclude that I am eligible to apply and get 60+10 points for skill and work experience?

-Saturn

ptlabs

The ACS assessment letter itself is *never* enough for you to get the 10 points for specific work experience.

You seem to have an assessment issued using the pre-Oct 1 guidelines, which does not include a deeming date. If you manage to confirm it using a reliable registered migration agent or if you're 100% certain that that is the case for you without the need for a migration agent (the risk is yours to take and yours alone), then you should get the 60 points irrespective of whether you qualify for the 10 points for specific work experience.

However, the 10 points for specific work experience are given by DIMIA and have nothing to do with ACS (other than be affected by ACS' deeming date, which is a post-Oct 1 guideline issue if you're in Groups A or B; RPL assessments have always had deeming dates, AFAIK).

You'll have to submit sufficient proof for your specific work experience, even if you have done so to ACS previously. DIMIA will make a determination on your eligibility for that 10 points on their own, independent of ACS' skills assessment.


Peter

Lee Webb

On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:39:58 +0000, saturn wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I completed my bachelor in June 1999.
    >
    > I had my skills assessed by ACS in September 2002. I shall complete my
    > 3 years of work experience in March next year.
    >
    > Am I eligible to apply for the Immigration under skill independent
    > category and will I be still getting (60+10) points for skill and 3
    > years of work experince?
    >
    > I am quite confused after reading ACS lattest Guidelines. Are these
    > going to effect me?
    >
    > Saturn.
    >
I'm in the same boat: Graduated in Jun '99 and got 3 years commercial
experience under my belt this August with an ACS assessment dated June '
02. I am currently waiting for a reference from my employer's HR
department stating that I've been there for over 3 years. I can't see
any other way of proving those extra 10 points: I don't believe that it
is the ACS that should be stating that you have the 3 years experience-
they merely state that you have the baseline skills "suitable" for a
migration application.

Lee.

saturn

Hi Lee,

You are right in that one has to produce the reference letter from his/her employer to prove the work experience thing.

What I am confused with is the lattest guidelines from ACS. I had the ACS assessment dated 1st Oct 2002 based on pre Oct 2002 guidelines like you with the validity of an Year from the date of issue. Have you confirmed that lattest ACS regulations are not going to have any effect on migration cases like ours?

-Saturn

Lee Webb

On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:13:01 +0000, saturn wrote:
    >
    > Hi Lee,
    >
    > You are right in that one has to produce the reference letter from
    > his/her employer to prove the work experience thing.
    >
    > What I am confused with is the lattest guidelines from ACS. I had the
    > ACS assessment dated 1st Oct 2002 based on pre Oct 2002 guidelines like
    > you with the validity of an Year from the date of issue. Have you
    > confirmed that lattest ACS regulations are not going to have any effect
    > on migration cases like ours?
    >
    > -Saturn
    >
I'm not sure I follow what you're asking: are you unsure as to whether
our version of the ACS assessments are valid given that new versions
have deeming dates? If not, then to which regulations are you referring
(I've been out of the migration loop a little while waiting for my HR
reference). If yes, then my (unprofessional) opinion is that there is
not reason why they wouldn't be valid - up to the "validity" date
specified on the letter (i.e., one year after). I haven't actually got
any firm proof of that however - it's just my instinct there.

Perhaps someone else with a better grasp of things (Alan, George, etc.)
may be able to shed light on this?

Lee.

Ranga Guruge

Hi Saturn,

From what I have read on this ng, you have no problem in applying with
your ACS assessment. Make sure you lodge the application before it
expires. If you are to get another assessment, you will have to be
assessed against the new guidelines.

regards
Ranga

ptlabs

If your ACS assessment was done based on the pre-01Oct2002 ACS guidelines, you won't suddenly find yourself judged by DIMIA using the post-01Oct2002 ACS guidelines.

If your ACS assessment was done on the pre-01Oct2002 guidelines, it will be valid even after Oct 1, 2002, no two ways about it, unless DIMIA specifically asks for a new assessment from ACS for you. Of course, you'll have to ensure that your ACS assessment is valid at the time you lodge your DIMIA application, otherwise, you'll have to get yourself re-assessed by the ACS, under the new guidelines, obviously.


Peter