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Old Sep 21st 2003, 3:48 pm
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Has anyone been getting these 'pseudo' Microsoft security patch viral emails
through recently....I've had maybe 200 over the last couple of days. I know
they contain some sort of Virus so deleting them is not a problem it's the
amount I'm recieving that's getting annoying. I'm getting more of these now
than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob' or 'Send me some money - nigeria
loves you' type of emails.
Come on all you IT experts shed some light on how to fix the problem.
It's bad enough waiting for the postman with me visa in it - without waiting
for me Emails to download as well ;-)
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Old Sep 21st 2003, 3:48 pm
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Originally posted by Wenz
Has anyone been getting these 'pseudo' Microsoft security patch viral emails
through recently....I've had maybe 200 over the last couple of days. I know
they contain some sort of Virus so deleting them is not a problem it's the
amount I'm recieving that's getting annoying. I'm getting more of these now
than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob' or 'Send me some money - nigeria
loves you' type of emails.
Come on all you IT experts shed some light on how to fix the problem.
It's bad enough waiting for the postman with me visa in it - without waiting
for me Emails to download as well ;-)
Wenz

Hi Wenz
your email made me laugh, as i could swear you are sat looking at my pc! wish i knew how to get rid of them all, just deleting!
good luck and DONT OPEN THEM!
regards
rach
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[QUOTE][i] I'm getting more of these now
than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob' or 'Send me some money - nigeria
loves you' type of emails.



If you replied back to them all............just how big would your nob be?
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Old Sep 21st 2003, 5:44 pm
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"wenz" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > Has anyone been getting these 'pseudo' Microsoft security patch viral
    > emails through recently....I've had maybe 200 over the last couple of
    > days. I know they contain some sort of Virus so deleting them is not a
    > problem it's the amount I'm recieving that's getting annoying. I'm
    > getting more of these now than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob'
    > or 'Send me some money - nigeria loves you' type of emails.
    > Come on all you IT experts shed some light on how to fix the problem.
    > It's bad enough waiting for the postman with me visa in it - without
    > waiting for me Emails to download as well ;-)

Alrighty, you asked for it.

The battle against the scum of the Earth known as spammers must be fought
on multiple fronts. The problem for many is that they only have the
resources or means to fight on one front. I don't mean financially but
technically.

Here's what the geek does:

- run your own domain and email server, therby giving you control over what
comes in (i.e. gets downloaded).
- on said server run a combination of spam fighting tools
-- the first line of defense is so-called RBLs. real-time black lists. The
compare the address of the email attempting to be sent to you with a
"blacklist" of know spammer originations. If there's a match, the mail is
denied and wont even get downloaded, beyond some basis header/envelope
information.
-- the second line does require that the email be downloaded for analysis,
but at least it then will get put aside in a special spam folder of your
choosing. I use a tool called spam assassin. It actually analyses an email
for spam content. If certain combinations of words are found in an email
(such as "nigeria" "409" "make money") it will raise a score. if the score
goes above a set threshold the email gets flagged as spam and will not make
it into your inbox.

Using those two I have reduced the amount of spam reaching my inbox by an
estimated 90+%.

Some still gets through, alas. And the fact that many spams still get
downloaded for analysis is a problem if your mail volume is metered (as it
is with Aussie DSL providers and such).

The only alternative (apart from a quest of spammericide, which I'd be all
in favor of) is to use an ISP that offer spam filtering at its end, so
*they* deal with the downloading and scrubbing.

Mike
 
Old Sep 21st 2003, 8:46 pm
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"Michael Hoffman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > "wenz" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    > > Has anyone been getting these 'pseudo' Microsoft security patch viral
    > > emails through recently....I've had maybe 200 over the last couple of
    > > days. I know they contain some sort of Virus so deleting them is not a
    > > problem it's the amount I'm recieving that's getting annoying. I'm
    > > getting more of these now than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob'
    > > or 'Send me some money - nigeria loves you' type of emails.
    > > Come on all you IT experts shed some light on how to fix the problem.
    > > It's bad enough waiting for the postman with me visa in it - without
    > > waiting for me Emails to download as well ;-)
    > Alrighty, you asked for it.
    > The battle against the scum of the Earth known as spammers must be fought
    > on multiple fronts. The problem for many is that they only have the
    > resources or means to fight on one front. I don't mean financially but
    > technically.
    > Here's what the geek does:
    > - run your own domain and email server, therby giving you control over
what
    > comes in (i.e. gets downloaded).
    > - on said server run a combination of spam fighting tools
    > -- the first line of defense is so-called RBLs. real-time black lists. The
    > compare the address of the email attempting to be sent to you with a
    > "blacklist" of know spammer originations. If there's a match, the mail is
    > denied and wont even get downloaded, beyond some basis header/envelope
    > information.
    > -- the second line does require that the email be downloaded for analysis,
    > but at least it then will get put aside in a special spam folder of your
    > choosing. I use a tool called spam assassin. It actually analyses an email
    > for spam content. If certain combinations of words are found in an email
    > (such as "nigeria" "409" "make money") it will raise a score. if the score
    > goes above a set threshold the email gets flagged as spam and will not
make
    > it into your inbox.
    > Using those two I have reduced the amount of spam reaching my inbox by an
    > estimated 90+%.
    > Some still gets through, alas. And the fact that many spams still get
    > downloaded for analysis is a problem if your mail volume is metered (as it
    > is with Aussie DSL providers and such).
    > The only alternative (apart from a quest of spammericide, which I'd be all
    > in favor of) is to use an ISP that offer spam filtering at its end, so
    > *they* deal with the downloading and scrubbing.
    > Mike

    >"use an ISP that offer spam filtering at its end, so
    > *they* deal with the downloading and scrubbing."
Mike,
I can't believe that all ISPs do not do this as a matter of course, I mean
spamming is not a new thing after all. Some of these spams and scams have
been doing the rounds for what seems like years .
...But as far as setting up my own server I reckon that might be a bit out
of my technical league. & It also seems almost too drastic to lose my
favourite old email address.
Cheers for the advice though...appreciated. (just downloaded another 38 by
the way) :-(

Wenz
 
Old Sep 21st 2003, 8:49 pm
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"nosuchluck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Originally posted by Wenz
    > > Has anyone been getting these 'pseudo' Microsoft security patch
    > > viral emails
    > > through recently....I've had maybe 200 over the last couple of
    > > days. I know
    > > they contain some sort of Virus so deleting them is not a problem
    > > it's the
    > > amount I'm recieving that's getting annoying. I'm getting more of
    > > these now
    > > than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob' or 'Send me some money
    > > - nigeria
    > > loves you' type of emails.
    > > Come on all you IT experts shed some light on how to fix the problem.
    > > It's bad enough waiting for the postman with me visa in it -
    > > without waiting
    > > for me Emails to download as well ;-)
    > > Wenz
    > Hi Wenz
    > your email made me laugh, as i could swear you are sat looking at my pc!
    > wish i knew how to get rid of them all, just deleting!
    > good luck and DONT OPEN THEM!
    > regards
    > rach
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

It's sooo frustrating I'm worried about getting into 'deleting mode' and
accidentally losing a really important email by mistake.
Wenz
 
Old Sep 21st 2003, 8:50 pm
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"Rossi" <member7753@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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    > > I'm getting more of these now
    > > than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob' or 'Send me some money
    > > - nigeria
    > > loves you' type of emails.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > If you replied back to them all............just how big would
    > > your nob be?
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

    > > If you replied back to them all............just how big would
    > > your nob be?

6 inches? ..................................(folded in half of course ;-))
 
Old Sep 21st 2003, 10:24 pm
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Easiest solution for we technically challenged is use OEs Mail Rules to
create rule that automatically sorts and places mail from known and desired
emailers into another folder.

Leaves all not specified sender emails going to the inbox.

Do check it for friends who changed email addresses and are telling you,
addresses you forgot to include as Friendly like your ISP account, etc...

Using FIND - with key words like SUBJECT=ADV or Text regular junk words
can quickly check and delete all 100+ junk emails received before today to
search InBox, merrily delete the hundred or so junks.



p.

"wenz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > "Michael Hoffman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > "wenz" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > > news:[email protected]:
    > >
    > > > Has anyone been getting these 'pseudo' Microsoft security patch viral
    > > > emails through recently....I've had maybe 200 over the last couple of
    > > > days. I know they contain some sort of Virus so deleting them is not a
    > > > problem it's the amount I'm recieving that's getting annoying. I'm
    > > > getting more of these now than the usual 'get yourself a bigger nob'
    > > > or 'Send me some money - nigeria loves you' type of emails.
    > > > Come on all you IT experts shed some light on how to fix the problem.
    > > > It's bad enough waiting for the postman with me visa in it - without
    > > > waiting for me Emails to download as well ;-)
    > >
    > > Alrighty, you asked for it.
    > >
    > > The battle against the scum of the Earth known as spammers must be
fought
    > > on multiple fronts. The problem for many is that they only have the
    > > resources or means to fight on one front. I don't mean financially but
    > > technically.
    > >
    > > Here's what the geek does:
    > >
    > > - run your own domain and email server, therby giving you control over
    > what
    > > comes in (i.e. gets downloaded).
    > > - on said server run a combination of spam fighting tools
    > > -- the first line of defense is so-called RBLs. real-time black lists.
The
    > > compare the address of the email attempting to be sent to you with a
    > > "blacklist" of know spammer originations. If there's a match, the mail
is
    > > denied and wont even get downloaded, beyond some basis header/envelope
    > > information.
    > > -- the second line does require that the email be downloaded for
analysis,
    > > but at least it then will get put aside in a special spam folder of your
    > > choosing. I use a tool called spam assassin. It actually analyses an
email
    > > for spam content. If certain combinations of words are found in an email
    > > (such as "nigeria" "409" "make money") it will raise a score. if the
score
    > > goes above a set threshold the email gets flagged as spam and will not
    > make
    > > it into your inbox.
    > >
    > > Using those two I have reduced the amount of spam reaching my inbox by
an
    > > estimated 90+%.
    > >
    > > Some still gets through, alas. And the fact that many spams still get
    > > downloaded for analysis is a problem if your mail volume is metered (as
it
    > > is with Aussie DSL providers and such).
    > >
    > > The only alternative (apart from a quest of spammericide, which I'd be
all
    > > in favor of) is to use an ISP that offer spam filtering at its end, so
    > > *they* deal with the downloading and scrubbing.
    > >
    > > Mike
    > >"use an ISP that offer spam filtering at its end, so
    > > *they* deal with the downloading and scrubbing."
    > Mike,
    > I can't believe that all ISPs do not do this as a matter of course, I mean
    > spamming is not a new thing after all. Some of these spams and scams have
    > been doing the rounds for what seems like years .
    > ...But as far as setting up my own server I reckon that might be a bit out
    > of my technical league. & It also seems almost too drastic to lose my
    > favourite old email address.
    > Cheers for the advice though...appreciated. (just downloaded another 38 by
    > the way) :-(
    > Wenz
 
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just got email from friend calling me a name or two for sending him a bug. last week sent around 15 emails to companies in oz asking about employment, found all their addresses and the attachment in sent items, wifes and my address book too......eep.
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Old Sep 22nd 2003, 12:07 am
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I use a little tool called Mail Washer that checks out the origin of the
mail against known spammers. That filters out some.
Then I set up some rules against obvious cases
- my email address not in the subject line.
- subjects lines containing Viagra,v1agra, v.i.a.g.r.a etc
- subject lines containing words describing genitalia, mortgage and so on

This cuts out over 90% of the total spam. After a month away, I had to
filter through 4500 messages to a mailbox, on the offchance that there was
something important in it. This approach helped a lot. And it all happens on
the mail server, so only the headers are downloaded.

In Oz, PC Authority keeps it on a cover disk.
 
Old Sep 22nd 2003, 12:45 am
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Well I can tell you this...this particular email address I am using, I
created it for this board and have only used it on this board. I too
have recently been getting flooded with about 100 emails a day with
the fake MS security. But what I find interesting is that I have only
posted this email address on this board and no where else. I don't
even use this account except for here. I've emailed maybe 2 or 3
people from this board and no one else even know's it exists.

Now I'm no genius )...but I do find it interesting that absolutely
none of my other email accounts are getting even one of those fake
emails. I wonder if someone's PC who posts on this board is infected
with a virus and just randonly sending these mails out...and they
don't even know they are infected.

NO worries though...it's just a Yahoo account...can always make
another one if I get bored with deleting.

Gordon
 
Old Sep 22nd 2003, 4:00 am
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"wenz" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > I can't believe that all ISPs do not do this as a matter of course, I
    > mean spamming is not a new thing after all. Some of these spams and
    > scams have been doing the rounds for what seems like years .
    > ...But as far as setting up my own server I reckon that might be a bit
    > out of my technical league. & It also seems almost too drastic to lose
    > my favourite old email address.
    > Cheers for the advice though...appreciated. (just downloaded another
    > 38 by the way) :-(

Yahoo and AOL and Earthlink now do it, here in the states. Not sure about
the choices in the UK or Australia.

It will be something for me to look into. With metered email I may well
give up the luxury of my own mail server.

Plus I'm getting too old for that sort of geek thing.

Mike
 
Old Sep 22nd 2003, 4:01 am
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"pol" <[email protected]> wrote in
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    > Easiest solution for we technically challenged is use OEs Mail Rules
    > to create rule that automatically sorts and places mail from known and
    > desired emailers into another folder.
    >
    > Leaves all not specified sender emails going to the inbox.
    >
    > Do check it for friends who changed email addresses and are telling
    > you, addresses you forgot to include as Friendly like your ISP
    > account, etc...
    >
    > Using FIND - with key words like SUBJECT=ADV or Text regular junk
    > words can quickly check and delete all 100+ junk emails received
    > before today to search InBox, merrily delete the hundred or so junks.

There's plugins and addons that specialize in targeting spam and work with
a wide variety of email clients (OE among them).

The dastardly thing is that, with metered email, it's still YOU paying for
the downloaded junk, which needs to be analyzed to be judged as spam.

Mike
 
Old Sep 22nd 2003, 4:03 am
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[email protected] ([email protected]) wrote in
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    > Well I can tell you this...this particular email address I am using, I
    > created it for this board and have only used it on this board. I too
    > have recently been getting flooded with about 100 emails a day with
    > the fake MS security. But what I find interesting is that I have only
    > posted this email address on this board and no where else. I don't
    > even use this account except for here. I've emailed maybe 2 or 3
    > people from this board and no one else even know's it exists.

Gordon,

For that reason it's very common for people to modify their email address
with some human-but-not-machine-parseable string, so that the mail address
scanners used by spammers can't harvest it - or not as easily.

Mike
 
Old Sep 22nd 2003, 4:05 am
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penzer <member9339@british_expats.com> wrote in
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    >
    > just got email from friend calling me a name or two for sending him a
    > bug. last week sent around 15 emails to companies in oz asking about
    > employment, found all their addresses and the attachment in sent items,
    > wifes and my address book too......eep.

With all due respect, anybody who is not at least running a Virus checker
with up-to-date signatures on their PC nowadays, *does* deserver to be
called a few choice and nasty things.

Me own dad had to live with the fact that I called him several polite
variations of "bonehead" for not running AV...

Mike
 


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