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Old Sep 19th 2002, 12:37 pm
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John Smith
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My finacee is about to start her nursing degree here in the UK, when she has
finished we want to move to australia...
I dont have any qualifications myself, tho i am an experianced computer
artist and would not find it hard to find work in some sort of graphic
area...
my question is, how easy will it be for us to go to australia and work, ??
i assume really it will be on the back of her being a nurse...
are the spouses of nurses allowed to move with them, and allowed to seek
work etc???


anyone been in a similar situation? how long and how easy is the process??

Cheers
jimmy
 
Old Sep 19th 2002, 1:35 pm
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Jaj
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Her eligibility when she's finished her degree will depend on what the
migration rules are in a few years. An nobody knows what changes will
happen between now and then.

In general, if someone is accepted to migrate, their spouses
(including de-facto spouses) and children get permanent visas to live,
study and work in Australia like any other Australian.

Jeremy

    >On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:37:14 +0100, "John Smith" wrote:
    >My finacee is about to start her nursing degree here in the UK, when she has
    >finished we want to move to australia...
    >I dont have any qualifications myself, tho i am an experianced computer
    >artist and would not find it hard to find work in some sort of graphic
    >area...
    >my question is, how easy will it be for us to go to australia and work, ??
    >i assume really it will be on the back of her being a nurse...
    >are the spouses of nurses allowed to move with them, and allowed to seek
    >work etc???
    >anyone been in a similar situation? how long and how easy is the process??
    >Cheers
    >jimmy
 
Old Sep 20th 2002, 11:55 am
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Ian Guy
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As a new grad they may not want to employ her. Get a years experience under
her belt and then go for it.

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    > Her eligibility when she's finished her degree will depend on what the
    > migration rules are in a few years. An nobody knows what changes will
    > happen between now and then.
    > In general, if someone is accepted to migrate, their spouses
    > (including de-facto spouses) and children get permanent visas to live,
    > study and work in Australia like any other Australian.
    > Jeremy
    > >On Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:37:14 +0100, "John Smith"
wrote:
    > >My finacee is about to start her nursing degree here in the UK, when she
has
    > >finished we want to move to australia...
    > >I dont have any qualifications myself, tho i am an experianced computer
    > >artist and would not find it hard to find work in some sort of graphic
    > >area...
    > >my question is, how easy will it be for us to go to australia and work,
??
    > >i assume really it will be on the back of her being a nurse...
    > >are the spouses of nurses allowed to move with them, and allowed to seek
    > >work etc???
    > >
    > >
    > >anyone been in a similar situation? how long and how easy is the
process??
    > >
    > >Cheers
    > >jimmy
    > >
    > >
 
Old Sep 26th 2002, 1:42 am
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Originally posted by John Smith:
question is, how easy will it be for us to go to australia and work, ??
i assume really it will be on the back of her being a nurse...
are the spouses of nurses allowed to move with them, and allowed to seek
work etc???

Cheers
jimmy
Sorry this may be a bit off track?




THE State Government is failing to meet benchmarks on nurse workloads set by a landmark Australian Industrial Relations Commission order in February.

The Australian Nursing Federation said yesterday that nurses still experienced sustained unreasonable workloads in many areas of the State because the benchmarks were largely ignored.

A Health Department report on nurses' workloads compiled this month shows few targets have been met.

In February, the commission ordered the implementation of the nursing-hours-per-patient-day model, which calculates staff rosters based on the number of nursing hours required for each patient.

The order, effective on March 1, required implementation by April 1 and expires on February 28, 2004. It also had a six-monthly reporting requirement.

As an example, under the new system, patients in a medical ward at Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital can expect six hours of direct nursing care in any 24-hour period.

However, between April and August 2002 most patients in those wards received less than the stipulated amount, with some missing 30 minutes direct attention each day.

"Half an hour might not seem much by itself but when you add it up for 30 patients in a ward it equates to the work of another two nurses," ANF State secretary Mark Olson said. Overall, Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital had been under the benchmarks by about 53 nursing shifts a day since April.

Mr Olson said the only way to enforce the benchmark system was for the Government to close hospital beds, an unpopular move.

But strict adherence to the benchmarks was necessary to show nurses they would not be overworked if they returned to the profession.

"We have been flogging nurses for the past five years and we are now 1000 nurses short," he said. "If the Government ignores the benchmarks, where will we be in another two years time?" Mr Olson said a similar move in Victoria had seen 3000 nurses return.

Yesterday, Health Minister Bob Kucera argued that the intention of the order had never been to achieve all benchmarks by April. The new model had been set in place then, but it was not realistic to get hundreds more nurses into the system in two months.

He would not say when the benchmarks would be met and flatly rejected the ANF's claim that closing beds would ultimately improve retention rates.
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Old Oct 2nd 2002, 2:06 pm
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Originally posted by John Smith:
My finacee is about to start her nursing degree here in the UK, when she has
finished we want to move to australia...
I dont have any qualifications myself, tho i am an experianced computer
artist and would not find it hard to find work in some sort of graphic
area...
my question is, how easy will it be for us to go to australia and work, ??
i assume really it will be on the back of her being a nurse...
are the spouses of nurses allowed to move with them, and allowed to seek
work etc???


anyone been in a similar situation? how long and how easy is the process??

Cheers
jimmy
Dear Jimmy, I qualify as a nurse in Febraury. I have just attended an australian convention in Bristol, where they told me that even though nurses are top on their list of priorites for jobs, there is no chance without 12 months experience, as I think someone else has pointed out. I have been in touch with a hospital in Melbourne who provide post-grad courses for newly qualified staff, involving preceptorship and specialist training, so there are some ways to get in as a newly qualified D-grade, however this may not help if your points are not enough to apply with. The australian nursing council may be of more help...and good luck! (http://www.anci.org.au)
Angie, xx
PS dont be disheatened...I was also told that if I could get out there that I would walk straight into a job!!! just keep tryin!
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Old Oct 2nd 2002, 5:22 pm
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Hi Jimmy

My wife is a nurse and we are moving to Brisbane next year. Angie is right
about the twelve months experience, but you would qualify for migration as
only one partner has to fulfil the points test. De Facto relationships are
also recognised so you don't actually have to be married. There is certainly
a shortage of nurses in Australia so there would be no problem finding work,
but you are looking at a year after she qualifies before you can apply.

hope this helps. Good luck
Andy
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    > Originally posted by John Smith:
    > > My finacee is about to start her nursing degree here in the UK, when
    > > she has
    > > finished we want to move to australia...
    > > I dont have any qualifications myself, tho i am an experianced
    > > computer
    > > artist and would not find it hard to find work in some sort of graphic
    > > area...
    > > my question is, how easy will it be for us to go to australia and
    > > work, ??
    > > i assume really it will be on the back of her being a nurse...
    > > are the spouses of nurses allowed to move with them, and allowed to
    > > seek
    > > work etc???
    > >
    > >
    > > anyone been in a similar situation? how long and how easy is the
    > > process??
    > >
    > > Cheers
    > > jimmy
    > >
    > Dear Jimmy, I qualify as a nurse in Febraury. I have just attended an
    > australian convention in Bristol, where they told me that even though
    > nurses are top on their list of priorites for jobs, there is no chance
    > without 12 months experience, as I think someone else has pointed out. I
    > have been in touch with a hospital in Melbourne who provide post-grad
    > courses for newly qualified staff, involving preceptorship and
    > specialist training, so there are some ways to get in as a newly
    > qualified D-grade, however this may not help if your points are not
    > enough to apply with. The australian nursing council may be of more
    > help...and good luck! (http://www.anci.org.au)
    > Angie, xx
    > PS dont be disheatened...I was also told that if I could get out there
    > that I would walk straight into a job!!! just keep tryin!
    > --
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Old Oct 3rd 2002, 11:07 am
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Jaj
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They are basically correct, although if you've an Australian relative
living in a designated area it would only be 6 months for general
skilled.

You could always ask them to sponsor you for a work permit and go for
PR later. Or come out on a working holiday visa if you're British and
get your foot in the door with an employer that way.

Although not really applicable to new graduates, Employer Nomination
PR might also be an option for nurses who have work experience
previously but don't have the 12 months in 18 recent work experience
you need for skilled independent.

Jeremy


    >On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 14:06:07 +0000, eastickaj wrote:
    >Dear Jimmy, I qualify as a nurse in Febraury. I have just attended an
    >australian convention in Bristol, where they told me that even though
    >nurses are top on their list of priorites for jobs, there is no chance
    >without 12 months experience, as I think someone else has pointed out. I
    >have been in touch with a hospital in Melbourne who provide post-grad
    >courses for newly qualified staff, involving preceptorship and
    >specialist training, so there are some ways to get in as a newly
    >qualified D-grade, however this may not help if your points are not
    >enough to apply with. The australian nursing council may be of more
    >help...and good luck! (http://www.anci.org.au)
    >Angie, xx
    >PS dont be disheatened...I was also told that if I could get out there
    > that I would walk straight into a job!!! just keep tryin!
    >--
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