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Old Dec 11th 2009, 6:29 pm
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Hi,

My name in all documents (job + passport) is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq Sardar' and my degrees have my name as 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'. 'Sardar' is my family name and my given name is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'.

Just curious if this could be an issue? Can some one please share his/her experience in such a case.

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Default Re: Missing SurName in Degrees !!!!! Is this an issue?

Originally Posted by MSadiq
Hi,

My name in all documents (job + passport) is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq Sardar' and my degrees have my name as 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'. 'Sardar' is my family name and my given name is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'.

Just curious if this could be an issue? Can some one please share his/her experience in such a case.

Regards,
How does your degree not have your surname? It would be like my university simply giving me a degree with the name "Dorothy" on it instead of my full name.

I think you need to speak to your university and have your degree fixed.
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Old Dec 11th 2009, 10:44 pm
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How does your degree not have your surname? It would be like my university simply giving me a degree with the name "Dorothy" on it instead of my full name.

I think you need to speak to your university and have your degree fixed.
hmmm, here its not a simple thing to ask a University to change a name or add a surname to degree. Degrees some time include SurName and some time they don't (given what's provided at the time of admission of a student in a school or college).
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hmmm, here its not a simple thing to ask a University to change a name or add a surname to degree. Degrees some time include SurName and some time they don't (given what's provided at the time of admission of a student in a school or college).
Well then I guess if it's too much hassle to have it fixed then it doesn't matter if it's an issue.
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Well then I guess if it's too much hassle to have it fixed then it doesn't matter if it's an issue.
You are asked to check the name very carefully at the time it is conferred in the UK as it cannot be changed, although perhaps it varies by country.
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My guess is you will have a big problem.
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Default Re: Missing SurName in Degrees !!!!! Is this an issue?

Originally Posted by MSadiq
hmmm, here its not a simple thing to ask a University to change a name or add a surname to degree. Degrees some time include SurName and some time they don't (given what's provided at the time of admission of a student in a school or college).
Most important things in life are not easy. If you re a graduate you must have experienced that. As you state if you have given name excluding your surname, then it's your fault & next, it's your right to ask for a fix....

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Default Re: Missing SurName in Degrees !!!!! Is this an issue?

Originally Posted by MSadiq
Hi,

My name in all documents (job + passport) is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq Sardar' and my degrees have my name as 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'. 'Sardar' is my family name and my given name is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'.

Just curious if this could be an issue? Can some one please share his/her experience in such a case.

Regards,
At the very least u need a statement letter from the university stating that the certificate was conferred to 'complete name' + statutory declaration that the 'wrong name' on certificate refers to ur real name.
The statement letter provides stronger evidence than just a statutory declaration.
Don't take my advice without consulting MARA agent who is familiar with ur country education system as evidence of qualification is very important to the success of ur visa application.
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Default Re: Missing SurName in Degrees !!!!! Is this an issue?

Originally Posted by MSadiq
Hi,

My name in all documents (job + passport) is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq Sardar' and my degrees have my name as 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'. 'Sardar' is my family name and my given name is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'.

Just curious if this could be an issue? Can some one please share his/her experience in such a case.

Regards,
I should not think you will find that many people who got their degee cetificates with just their fist name on.

I would also assume it is a bit of a problem, how would they know it is you? But if you are not going to try and get it changed anyway then our answers are irrelevant.
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Default Re: Missing SurName in Degrees !!!!! Is this an issue?

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I should not think you will find that many people who got their degee cetificates with just their fist name on.

I would also assume it is a bit of a problem, how would they know it is you? But if you are not going to try and get it changed anyway then our answers are irrelevant.
I don't think it's going be a big issue because you have 3 names out of 4 (your name + your father's name + your grand father name) matching while you only miss the family name. May be you need to contact DIAC and the assessing authority and ask them if that would be a problem and try to elaborate when you explain the situation.
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Default Re: Missing SurName in Degrees !!!!! Is this an issue?

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I should not think you will find that many people who got their degee cetificates with just their fist name on.

I would also assume it is a bit of a problem, how would they know it is you? But if you are not going to try and get it changed anyway then our answers are irrelevant.
There are cases where the name on uni cert. different to their name coz their name is too long and don't fit on cert or just a typo. In certain countries, it is almost impossible to change cert after it has been issued. Thus, changing the name on cert is not an alternative.
In my case, a statement letter from uni stating the name on cert should be 'name on passport' and a statutory declaration stating the various different names on supporting docs refers to the person with 'name on passport' suffice to get my visa application approved, though with longer processing time, which may be due to the longer verification process on those different names.
I think i have 5 different names on various docs such as tax docs, nat. id card, salary slip, and uni cert due to the length of my name and mistypo. However, DIAC was able to accept those docs - some with just stat. declaration. The most important point is that those documents are issued to the applicants.

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You will need to get an Affidavit made (Notarized) to state that your legal name is "XYZ" and that due to an oversight your Degree Certificate is printed as "XY" but both names are one and the same and belong to you.

Also details like your passport number etc should be on there.

A notary would have the required format for the same, get it done and submit it with your file.
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Default Re: Missing SurName in Degrees !!!!! Is this an issue?

Originally Posted by MSadiq
Hi,

My name in all documents (job + passport) is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq Sardar' and my degrees have my name as 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'. 'Sardar' is my family name and my given name is 'Mansoor Ali Sadiq'.

Just curious if this could be an issue? Can some one please share his/her experience in such a case.

Regards,
You should request your university to issue you a certificate with a correct name printed.
I doubt they would refuse.
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Here is a couple of good suggestions

1- Consider changing your legal name to what is on degree....this means your name will be shorter and hopefully you will have less problems in future

2- The naming structure in different parts of world can be different.... maybe (this is just a suggestion) just try to stick with two names, three at the most,...it will make life easy somewhat..

3- Also, if you can not change anything, worry not, you will be fine...immigration knows that naming structure is not the same throughout the world.....actually it reminds me of my room mate in Uni of Engineering & Technology in Lahore, his full name was Mian Muhammad Mushtaq Khalid Khan Kanju.....Take that immigration !!!

so just chill out....
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