ministerial discretion s22.9

Old Jan 28th 2014, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
Wouldn't he be a citizen by birth if you are one?
My citizenship isn't by birth.
He wasn't born in Australia.

So I am guessing I need to apply for his citizenship, no?
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Old Jan 29th 2014, 2:00 am
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Might be eligible for citizenship by descent if they meet the criteria set out here:
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/applyi...born_overseas/
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Originally Posted by ajw
Might be eligible for citizenship by descent if they meet the criteria set out here:
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/applyi...born_overseas/
Thanks.

Yes, he is clear on all of them.

So am I right in saying I can include him on one application along with my wife's?
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I would imagine both would need their own application. Check the guidelines on those webpages.
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The fact that your child is eligible for citizenship by descent might help support your wifes application. Include evidence of his application in hers.
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Default Re: ministerial discretion s22.9

Originally Posted by E3only
My citizenship isn't by birth.
He wasn't born in Australia.

So I am guessing I need to apply for his citizenship, no?
I don't see how that matters. If you were a citizen at his birth, then I am almost certain he is a citizen too (by descent) and does not need to go on your wife's application.
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Just to clarify, he also doesn't need his own separate application for ministerial discretion, you just need to apply for citizen by decent.
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Just to clarify, he also doesn't need his own separate application for ministerial discretion, you just need to apply for citizen by decent.
No, I get that.

What i meant was this. From a fee perspective, I have to pay 200 something. Now, I am not sure if her application will be approved but I hope that my son's is. So might as well get them on the same application so I dont end up paying two fees. + sending docs from here is ~50 bucks.

Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by E3only
No, I get that.

What i meant was this. From a fee perspective, I have to pay 200 something. Now, I am not sure if her application will be approved but I hope that my son's is. So might as well get them on the same application so I dont end up paying two fees. + sending docs from here is ~50 bucks.

Am I missing something?
I think you are missing something yes. They are making very different applications for citizenship so I don't see how they can go on the same application. If you don't think it is worth 200 dollars why are you even bothering applying? Seems like a very small sum to me.
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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
I think you are missing something yes. They are making very different applications for citizenship so I don't see how they can go on the same application. If you don't think it is worth 200 dollars why are you even bothering applying? Seems like a very small sum to me.
$200 for me isn't small change. I dont mind spending unless its required absolutely.

I don't care if I have to make two applications. I value the outcome more than the cost.
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Old Jan 29th 2014, 10:51 pm
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Default Re: ministerial discretion s22.9

my wife got her citizenship through ministerial discretion. we have been living in the U.S. for sometime. I think it boils down to WHY you are overseas + how long you have already spent in Australia.

My guess is that if you simply go back to your origin country (and I specifically use "origin", because Australia is home, right?) and show no intention of returning back to Australia you probably may not succeed.
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Originally Posted by E3only
No, I get that.

What i meant was this. From a fee perspective, I have to pay 200 something. Now, I am not sure if her application will be approved but I hope that my son's is. So might as well get them on the same application so I dont end up paying two fees. + sending docs from here is ~50 bucks.

Am I missing something?
E3only, I am in the same boat as you. You have to make separate citizenship applications for your spouse and your US born child.

You cannot put them on same application as they both are different applications .. one is Form 1300t General eligibility and second is Form 118 citizenship by descent..

I have applied for Australian citizenship for my spouse ... Waiting for the outcome .. Please include copy of your child's US birth certificate with both parents name as it is a strong evidence for her continuous relationship with Australia Spouse .

Have been lazy to apply for my son. will do it soon..

Hope this helps.
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I am also looking to apply under the section 22.9.

I will be short of more than 90 days spent in Australia by the time I apply for citizenship. I am going overseas frequently, but for short period of time.

My spouse has acquired citizenship during my "4-year" time window.

I have one question:
  • When I am overseas (for work), my wife stays most of the time in Australia. Knowing we have ties with Australia (family, property), would that reinforce the case knowing she is not physically with me?
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I am also looking to apply under the section 22.9.

I will be short of more than 90 days spent in Australia by the time I apply for citizenship. I am going overseas frequently, but for short period of time.

My spouse has acquired citizenship during my "4-year" time window.

I have one question:
  • When I am overseas (for work), my wife stays most of the time in Australia. Knowing we have ties with Australia (family, property), would that reinforce the case knowing she is not physically with me?
If you are just short of days, can you just wait and apply later?
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Old Feb 10th 2014, 6:07 pm
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Well I usually travel more than 90 days in any given year, and that's for work. I am not a public servant, sportsman and scientist.
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