Maybe over before I even start
#1
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Maybe over before I even start
I'm 38 and just realise when I turn 40 I drop 10 points so puts any chance of wishing to move to Oz out the question.
When you submit your application is it assesed on your current age or the age you are when the visa is granted?
If its the age you are when visa is granted its curtains for me.
Part of the joys of being old I guess...
May have a option of going through my partner as main applicant but she's only just started studying business and and management,which isn't on the SOL and will only be at beginner level and and with no experiance.
Not sure where to go from here....
When you submit your application is it assesed on your current age or the age you are when the visa is granted?
If its the age you are when visa is granted its curtains for me.
Part of the joys of being old I guess...
May have a option of going through my partner as main applicant but she's only just started studying business and and management,which isn't on the SOL and will only be at beginner level and and with no experiance.
Not sure where to go from here....
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
I'm 38 and just realise when I turn 40 I drop 10 points so puts any chance of wishing to move to Oz out the question.
When you submit your application is it assesed on your current age or the age you are when the visa is granted?
If its the age you are when visa is granted its curtains for me.
Part of the joys of being old I guess...
May have a option of going through my partner as main applicant but she's only just started studying business and and management,which isn't on the SOL and will only be at beginner level and and with no experiance.
Not sure where to go from here....
When you submit your application is it assesed on your current age or the age you are when the visa is granted?
If its the age you are when visa is granted its curtains for me.
Part of the joys of being old I guess...
May have a option of going through my partner as main applicant but she's only just started studying business and and management,which isn't on the SOL and will only be at beginner level and and with no experiance.
Not sure where to go from here....
Age – Eligibility
You must be under 50 years of age at the time of applying for this visa.
You must be under 50 years of age at the time of applying for this visa.
Points awarded
Your eligibility for points is determined by your age on the day of making your application.
Your eligibility for points is determined by your age on the day of making your application.
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
Its usually on the age at date of application
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
Dont panic i was 44 when 1st applied for a working visa, got it no problems but with the economic downturn we are just going to Aus and i am now nearly 50 so keep your head up and go for it matey.
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
I'm 38 and just realise when I turn 40 I drop 10 points so puts any chance of wishing to move to Oz out the question.
When you submit your application is it assesed on your current age or the age you are when the visa is granted?
If its the age you are when visa is granted its curtains for me.
Part of the joys of being old I guess...
May have a option of going through my partner as main applicant but she's only just started studying business and and management,which isn't on the SOL and will only be at beginner level and and with no experiance.
Not sure where to go from here....
When you submit your application is it assesed on your current age or the age you are when the visa is granted?
If its the age you are when visa is granted its curtains for me.
Part of the joys of being old I guess...
May have a option of going through my partner as main applicant but she's only just started studying business and and management,which isn't on the SOL and will only be at beginner level and and with no experiance.
Not sure where to go from here....
Good luck mate
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
Hi all...
Thx for trying to keep me positive.
Its a bit of a catch 22 situation...
I'm just finishing a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic engineering which is the trade which I was hoping to use to bring to Oz. To achieve the 65 point mark under the 176 visa application if I dont have more than 3 years experience I fall short by 5 points. Sooooo....
I was originally planning on looking for work in my new trade early next year to start the 3 year ball rolling and to gain experience.
So with the Hol I was planning for early 2013 plus the time it takes to apply for visa etc I thought that should be around the 3 year mark (depending in me finding work)...but then thinking of it I would'nt have the required experiance at the point of application....hmmmm.
Thats my dilemma...not sure where to go at present
Thx for trying to keep me positive.
Its a bit of a catch 22 situation...
I'm just finishing a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic engineering which is the trade which I was hoping to use to bring to Oz. To achieve the 65 point mark under the 176 visa application if I dont have more than 3 years experience I fall short by 5 points. Sooooo....
I was originally planning on looking for work in my new trade early next year to start the 3 year ball rolling and to gain experience.
So with the Hol I was planning for early 2013 plus the time it takes to apply for visa etc I thought that should be around the 3 year mark (depending in me finding work)...but then thinking of it I would'nt have the required experiance at the point of application....hmmmm.
Thats my dilemma...not sure where to go at present
#7
Re: Maybe over before I even start
Hi all...
Thx for trying to keep me positive.
Its a bit of a catch 22 situation...
I'm just finishing a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic engineering which is the trade which I was hoping to use to bring to Oz. To achieve the 65 point mark under the 176 visa application if I dont have more than 3 years experience I fall short by 5 points. Sooooo....
I was originally planning on looking for work in my new trade early next year to start the 3 year ball rolling and to gain experience.
So with the Hol I was planning for early 2013 plus the time it takes to apply for visa etc I thought that should be around the 3 year mark (depending in me finding work)...but then thinking of it I would'nt have the required experiance at the point of application....hmmmm.
Thats my dilemma...not sure where to go at present
Thx for trying to keep me positive.
Its a bit of a catch 22 situation...
I'm just finishing a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic engineering which is the trade which I was hoping to use to bring to Oz. To achieve the 65 point mark under the 176 visa application if I dont have more than 3 years experience I fall short by 5 points. Sooooo....
I was originally planning on looking for work in my new trade early next year to start the 3 year ball rolling and to gain experience.
So with the Hol I was planning for early 2013 plus the time it takes to apply for visa etc I thought that should be around the 3 year mark (depending in me finding work)...but then thinking of it I would'nt have the required experiance at the point of application....hmmmm.
Thats my dilemma...not sure where to go at present
Don't give in, good luck
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
As far as I know its all at the time of application so I wont have the relevant experience to get the 5 points I require.
May have 1 more slither of hope. I was re-looking at the SOL list to see if my Partners line if work is on there as this would also give us the 5 req'd points.
There are 2 sections I believe. Sol section 1 for people who don't require government sponsorship and section 1/2 for people who do. With the longer kist of occupations maybe she would fit into one of those categories. (She has a Level 2 in Fitness Instructing and will have a AS level in business studies) Can't seem to find these on either section of the SOL though.
Hanging in there by a thread but still not just yet given up. I will only go if I can get the 176 Visa as couldn't handle the uncertanty on the 475.
May have 1 more slither of hope. I was re-looking at the SOL list to see if my Partners line if work is on there as this would also give us the 5 req'd points.
There are 2 sections I believe. Sol section 1 for people who don't require government sponsorship and section 1/2 for people who do. With the longer kist of occupations maybe she would fit into one of those categories. (She has a Level 2 in Fitness Instructing and will have a AS level in business studies) Can't seem to find these on either section of the SOL though.
Hanging in there by a thread but still not just yet given up. I will only go if I can get the 176 Visa as couldn't handle the uncertanty on the 475.
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
As far as I know its all at the time of application so I wont have the relevant experience to get the 5 points I require.
May have 1 more slither of hope. I was re-looking at the SOL list to see if my Partners line if work is on there as this would also give us the 5 req'd points.
There are 2 sections I believe. Sol section 1 for people who don't require government sponsorship and section 1/2 for people who do. With the longer kist of occupations maybe she would fit into one of those categories. (She has a Level 2 in Fitness Instructing and will have a AS level in business studies) Can't seem to find these on either section of the SOL though.
Hanging in there by a thread but still not just yet given up. I will only go if I can get the 176 Visa as couldn't handle the uncertanty on the 475.
May have 1 more slither of hope. I was re-looking at the SOL list to see if my Partners line if work is on there as this would also give us the 5 req'd points.
There are 2 sections I believe. Sol section 1 for people who don't require government sponsorship and section 1/2 for people who do. With the longer kist of occupations maybe she would fit into one of those categories. (She has a Level 2 in Fitness Instructing and will have a AS level in business studies) Can't seem to find these on either section of the SOL though.
Hanging in there by a thread but still not just yet given up. I will only go if I can get the 176 Visa as couldn't handle the uncertanty on the 475.
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
Hi
Well, I was originally trying to go under my Occupation I'm currently studying which is a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic Engineering but can't get enough points due to no experience.
I'm currently employed as a Manufacturing Engineer, which I think makes my job sound better than what it is. In my eyes I'm a Injection Moulding Technician.
I'm qualified to City and Guilds level 3 which I belive is equivalent to a Diploma.
With the 17 years experience I have this may give me enough points on the 175/176 Visa class but its not on the SOL.
I maybe able to still apply for the 176 Visa, but will require sponsorship which maybe hard to achieve.
I have asked the question to a couple of immigration experts which I have found online, one of which showed no interest in myself but the other asked for me to send in my CV which he will look through to see if any Trades suit, but if he does he says there fees are £2200 and with the Visa processing fees etc etc I will be facing a bill of around £5,500
Anyway, thats way down the line. Struggling to cross the first hurdle at present.
Well, I was originally trying to go under my Occupation I'm currently studying which is a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic Engineering but can't get enough points due to no experience.
I'm currently employed as a Manufacturing Engineer, which I think makes my job sound better than what it is. In my eyes I'm a Injection Moulding Technician.
I'm qualified to City and Guilds level 3 which I belive is equivalent to a Diploma.
With the 17 years experience I have this may give me enough points on the 175/176 Visa class but its not on the SOL.
I maybe able to still apply for the 176 Visa, but will require sponsorship which maybe hard to achieve.
I have asked the question to a couple of immigration experts which I have found online, one of which showed no interest in myself but the other asked for me to send in my CV which he will look through to see if any Trades suit, but if he does he says there fees are £2200 and with the Visa processing fees etc etc I will be facing a bill of around £5,500
Anyway, thats way down the line. Struggling to cross the first hurdle at present.
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
Hi
Well, I was originally trying to go under my Occupation I'm currently studying which is a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic Engineering but can't get enough points due to no experience.
I'm currently employed as a Manufacturing Engineer, which I think makes my job sound better than what it is. In my eyes I'm a Injection Moulding Technician.
I'm qualified to City and Guilds level 3 which I belive is equivalent to a Diploma.
With the 17 years experience I have this may give me enough points on the 175/176 Visa class but its not on the SOL.
I maybe able to still apply for the 176 Visa, but will require sponsorship which maybe hard to achieve.
I have asked the question to a couple of immigration experts which I have found online, one of which showed no interest in myself but the other asked for me to send in my CV which he will look through to see if any Trades suit, but if he does he says there fees are £2200 and with the Visa processing fees etc etc I will be facing a bill of around £5,500
Anyway, thats way down the line. Struggling to cross the first hurdle at present.
Well, I was originally trying to go under my Occupation I'm currently studying which is a Diploma in Electrical and Electronic Engineering but can't get enough points due to no experience.
I'm currently employed as a Manufacturing Engineer, which I think makes my job sound better than what it is. In my eyes I'm a Injection Moulding Technician.
I'm qualified to City and Guilds level 3 which I belive is equivalent to a Diploma.
With the 17 years experience I have this may give me enough points on the 175/176 Visa class but its not on the SOL.
I maybe able to still apply for the 176 Visa, but will require sponsorship which maybe hard to achieve.
I have asked the question to a couple of immigration experts which I have found online, one of which showed no interest in myself but the other asked for me to send in my CV which he will look through to see if any Trades suit, but if he does he says there fees are £2200 and with the Visa processing fees etc etc I will be facing a bill of around £5,500
Anyway, thats way down the line. Struggling to cross the first hurdle at present.
You have mentioned a points shortage, so somebody suggested you post up your points calculation, I agree that would help us to help you.
If your current job is not on the SOL then you canot apply under that occupation. Do you mean your occupation is not on schedule one or two of the SOL?
But getting a diploma in another occupation is no good unless you actually work in that occupation - is this your plan?
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
Sorry, I'll try to explain a little clearer...
My current job is a Injection Moulding Technician and I cant find this occupation on the SOL but they can't list every occupation on there so it may come under a sub category i.e. maintance fitter or I put it under, Machine operators, metal fitters and Machinists.
Bottom line is there is no "injection moulding technician " on the SOL.
With the above entered onto the points system I achieve:
175 Visa: Applicant is not eligible for 175 visa because their occupation is not on the SOL
176 Visa: Applicant is eligible for the 176 state sponsored visa.
Age, 25. General Education,10. English Lan, 20. Occup experience 15. Sponsorship by state gov, 5. TOTAL 75
My other occupation which I'm currently studying and will finish within 8 months I do plan to look for work in that trade but under "occupation experience", it states 0-3 years, 3-10 years etc and you get points relevant, so I need to be in my new line of work for over 3 years to gain any futher points which isn't visible as I will then be over 40 so will loose points there instead, hence the catch 22 situation.
I may have a path through cy current occupation as mentioned above but thats if its possible to find a category it fits under on the SOL.
Hope that clears it up.
Thanks for you guys for trying to help.
My current job is a Injection Moulding Technician and I cant find this occupation on the SOL but they can't list every occupation on there so it may come under a sub category i.e. maintance fitter or I put it under, Machine operators, metal fitters and Machinists.
Bottom line is there is no "injection moulding technician " on the SOL.
With the above entered onto the points system I achieve:
175 Visa: Applicant is not eligible for 175 visa because their occupation is not on the SOL
176 Visa: Applicant is eligible for the 176 state sponsored visa.
Age, 25. General Education,10. English Lan, 20. Occup experience 15. Sponsorship by state gov, 5. TOTAL 75
My other occupation which I'm currently studying and will finish within 8 months I do plan to look for work in that trade but under "occupation experience", it states 0-3 years, 3-10 years etc and you get points relevant, so I need to be in my new line of work for over 3 years to gain any futher points which isn't visible as I will then be over 40 so will loose points there instead, hence the catch 22 situation.
I may have a path through cy current occupation as mentioned above but thats if its possible to find a category it fits under on the SOL.
Hope that clears it up.
Thanks for you guys for trying to help.
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
There is a term "closely related occupation" where the titles do not have to match, you go by the details of what you actually do. If it fits the standard, it does not matter what it's called. I think DIAC has detailed description of duties for each code (well, used to). Did you read TRA or VETASSESS whichever does the skills assessment for one of these codes, do you satisfy assessment criteria?
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
There is a term "closely related occupation" where the titles do not have to match, you go by the details of what you actually do. If it fits the standard, it does not matter what it's called. I think DIAC has detailed description of duties for each code (well, used to). Did you read TRA or VETASSESS whichever does the skills assessment for one of these codes, do you satisfy assessment criteria?
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Re: Maybe over before I even start
Sorry, I'll try to explain a little clearer...
My current job is a Injection Moulding Technician and I cant find this occupation on the SOL but they can't list every occupation on there so it may come under a sub category i.e. maintance fitter or I put it under, Machine operators, metal fitters and Machinists.
Bottom line is there is no "injection moulding technician " on the SOL.
With the above entered onto the points system I achieve:
175 Visa: Applicant is not eligible for 175 visa because their occupation is not on the SOL
176 Visa: Applicant is eligible for the 176 state sponsored visa.
Age, 25. General Education,10. English Lan, 20. Occup experience 15. Sponsorship by state gov, 5. TOTAL 75
My other occupation which I'm currently studying and will finish within 8 months I do plan to look for work in that trade but under "occupation experience", it states 0-3 years, 3-10 years etc and you get points relevant, so I need to be in my new line of work for over 3 years to gain any futher points which isn't visible as I will then be over 40 so will loose points there instead, hence the catch 22 situation.
I may have a path through cy current occupation as mentioned above but thats if its possible to find a category it fits under on the SOL.
Hope that clears it up.
Thanks for you guys for trying to help.
My current job is a Injection Moulding Technician and I cant find this occupation on the SOL but they can't list every occupation on there so it may come under a sub category i.e. maintance fitter or I put it under, Machine operators, metal fitters and Machinists.
Bottom line is there is no "injection moulding technician " on the SOL.
With the above entered onto the points system I achieve:
175 Visa: Applicant is not eligible for 175 visa because their occupation is not on the SOL
176 Visa: Applicant is eligible for the 176 state sponsored visa.
Age, 25. General Education,10. English Lan, 20. Occup experience 15. Sponsorship by state gov, 5. TOTAL 75
My other occupation which I'm currently studying and will finish within 8 months I do plan to look for work in that trade but under "occupation experience", it states 0-3 years, 3-10 years etc and you get points relevant, so I need to be in my new line of work for over 3 years to gain any futher points which isn't visible as I will then be over 40 so will loose points there instead, hence the catch 22 situation.
I may have a path through cy current occupation as mentioned above but thats if its possible to find a category it fits under on the SOL.
Hope that clears it up.
Thanks for you guys for trying to help.
Robert