Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
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Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
How tricky is it to renew a kids UK passport and use the new one? Our 175 is in his old one.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
Where is the quickest renewal office? We are still in Mackay.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
Its easy...we did ours last year and went through our local post office, had Passport back in 10 days!!
Don't worry about Visa sticker, they are all electronic these days and show automatically on the Passport scanner. If in doubt carry your old one or better still your email/letter of Visa acceptance.
Don't worry about Visa sticker, they are all electronic these days and show automatically on the Passport scanner. If in doubt carry your old one or better still your email/letter of Visa acceptance.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
All good information!
Thank you.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
The Australian visa will not be connected to the new passport unless you tell DIAC. It won't be automatic, you should fill in form 929.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/929.pdf
This will link the new passport and visa, it is up to you whether you want the physical label or not, many people are happy not to bother.
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/929.pdf
This will link the new passport and visa, it is up to you whether you want the physical label or not, many people are happy not to bother.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
I've recently returned from a trip to South Africa and I have to say that the DIAC practice of no longer putting PR visa stickers into passport renewals has been a bit of a 'mare.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
I've recently returned from a trip to South Africa and I have to say that the DIAC practice of no longer putting PR visa stickers into passport renewals has been a bit of a 'mare.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
Having said that, if I was still travelling with a visa i would be paying the $70 for a label just to be sure!
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
It would still have been a valid visa even if in an expired passport, so that is a matter for the training of the staff in both SA and Dubai. The visa does not expitre with the passport; many people travel with their visa labels in expired passports, and have done even before they started charging for labels.
Having said that, if I was still travelling with a visa i would be paying the $70 for a label just to be sure!
Having said that, if I was still travelling with a visa i would be paying the $70 for a label just to be sure!
$70 is a rip off that I refuse to be a part of. Besides, I'll be applying for Aus citizenship early next year...
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
I've recently returned from a trip to South Africa and I have to say that the DIAC practice of no longer putting PR visa stickers into passport renewals has been a bit of a 'mare.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
My family and I leave the country too rarely to waste our money on such things. Besides, how can they justify charging $70 (or thereabouts) so that we can save them call centre workload? I'm saving my bucks and sticking to principle on this one. If more did the same they would likely return to their old practice of putting them in for free.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
I've recently returned from a trip to South Africa and I have to say that the DIAC practice of no longer putting PR visa stickers into passport renewals has been a bit of a 'mare.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
When my UK passport expired I went to DIAC in Canberra to have the visa placed in my South African passport. The response from the DIAC person who dealt with me was they no longer issue the stickers for free in passport renewals and a new sticker would cost (if I remember correctly) $70 (or thereabouts). However, they said that all I needed to do was to register the new passport against the visa and there would be no problems - which I did.
Fast forward a few months and having spent time in South Africa I now wanted to return to Aus. The Emirates staff swiped my SA passport through their system and it reported I had no visa. No problem, I thought, and produced my expired UK passport containing the current visa. "But this is not a valid visa because it is in an expired passport..." they said, so they needed to telephone the Aus High Comm to obtain authorisation. Ten minutes and a telephone call later and they had the code - problem solved, I thought as they issued me with the boarding passes all the way to Perth. I had booked a very long but much cheaper journey to Sydney via Dubai and Perth (but won't do it again - the horrendously long journey is not worth the saving). Once in Dubai, at check-in immediately prior to boarding the next leg of the journey I has to go through the same visa hoo-ha. This time it was due to the smiling incompetents at Cape Town airport failing to enter the authorisation code on their system.
So to summarise, DIAC's decision to cease placing pink stickers in new passports for free/a reasonable fee has meant that they've created extra hassle for migrants using replacement passports and for DIAC too because they now need to employ extra staff at their call centres to handle a resultant increase in visa queries.
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
http://www.immi.gov.au/visas/vec-faq.pdf has the details of the electronic system.
As it says, you can still get a visa label from your local DIAC office if necessary - and I have to admit, I would be getting one, makes life easier!
As it says, you can still get a visa label from your local DIAC office if necessary - and I have to admit, I would be getting one, makes life easier!
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Re: Kid needs new UK passport....Visa is in the old one?
My OH nearly gave the immigration officer a heart attack a couple of weeks back by handing him my sons' unregistered SA passports when they returned to SYD. She said he was not at all impressed