Cheetah7

I know we dont apply for them yet but does anyone know how far police checks need to go back?

Someone said 10 years.

If its more than 18 then we are buggered.

Rogue Trader

Hi Sam,

We didn't specify a time-scale on ours... they just reported back with what information they held.

Sooo... what did you get up to in 1988 that's gonna cause problems anyway..?

ATB,
RT

welshtony

Any Country you have lived in for an aggregate period of 12 months or more in the last 10 years. Where there is some criminal record or if for some reason DIMIA think it warranted, they can request clearances from Countries resided in for less than 12 months or further back than the usual 10 years.

Tony

Cheetah7

Well we have been married 15 years and hubby has lived in UK all that time.

Prior to 1988, he lived in North Africa which will make obtaining clearance as hard as anything.

He hasnt lived outside the UK in the past 18 years.

(and if your talking crimes, well hubby had a bevy of beauties he use to pimp out to the local community - ha ha not really)

majortom

[QUOTE=Professional Princess]I know we dont apply for them yet but does anyone know how far police checks need to go back?

Someone said 10 years.

I was a naughty boy in 1972 and guess what................it showed up on my police check.

Mine was the last one to come back out of the three of us, it took 29 days, as the conviction was as a juvenile (I was 15) I thought it would'nt count.....good job I declared it on my 47ES.

Pollyana

Two things here which seem to have got confused -
WelshTony's reply of - "Any Country you have lived in for an aggregate period of 12 months or more in the last 10 years. Where there is some criminal record or if for some reason DIMIA think it warranted, they can request clearances from Countries resided in for less than 12 months or further back than the usual 10 years." refers to countries you have lived in going back so many years. So if you lived in the USA (for instance) MORE than 10 years ago, you probably won't need a check from there (only if DIMIA think you warrant it)

However, each country has its own rules on how far back it keeps its own records. The UK still has offences on file from the 1920s and older. If you apply for a police check from the UK it will have ALL offences (still on record) on it, regardless of age - the 10 year thing is irrelevant here.

Sam's question seems to fall into the first category and has been answered by Tony.

ShellnTez

it must be 12 months or more as we have both to do a uk police check, but only terry has to do an australian pc as he lived there exactly 1 year on a working holiday, i joined him later so i wasn't there for an entire year and didn't have to do one.
the e-mail will tell you when you get it
shell

JAJ

In addition to Tony's point above:

- DIMIA usually do not count time before the age of 16 (so the 10 years is reduced to the period since 16th birthday, if shorter)

- the application forms ask for details of *all* criminal convictions, no matter where or when they took place.


Jeremy

JAJ

Is he a British citizen?

Security checks for nationals of most African countries take a lot of time, if he's British it may be slightly less of an issue.


Jeremy

Cheetah7

My husband is Algerian but is a British Citizen, he has his naturalisation certificate and his passport.

He has lived here about 18 years.

JAJ

He should probably apply as a British citizen, however where they ask about another nationality (which they do on form 47SK and form 80) he must declare his Algerian nationality if he still has it.

There is a risk that the security check that DIMIA do (on top of police checks) may take longer because of his background.



Jeremy

Cheetah7

I know, One guy has been waiting over a year.

He has his Algerian passport and his British one, we will photocopy and get cert. copies of both for Dimia I think.

Out of sounding ignorant, how do Australia gov. do their checks, if our police check for the UK, how do Aussie gov. check Algeria.

If we put the addresses for the past ten years, as stated, I wonder what else they do for their checks?

Most of the people hubby knew in Algeria are dead now from the civil war.

I suppose they check with Interpoll or whatever its called to see if hes on the 'wanted list' or whatever they have.

I hope it doesnt take a year Jeremy. If we are applying for STNI and they remove cook of the list, how will that affect us?

JAJ

For police checks: http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/47p.pdf
If a country is not mentioned on form 47P, DIMIA do the police check directly.

But you are confusing a police check with a security check. Security checks are conducted by the Australian intelligence service - if you're from the UK it's straightforward as they have a good relationship with their UK equivalent and hence get answers quickly. With other countries it's not so straightforward.

With a regular points tested application it's not normally a problem as once your score is assessed it's normally 'locked in' and only something like a change to the SOL (not common) could affect you.

With STNI it's not so clear, but I would think that in most circumstances an STNI nomination that was valid at the time of application should be honoured no matter how long processing takes. However I don't know if there's anything official to back this up.


Jeremy

Cheetah7

Just checked the link Jeremy and it says 'countries where police certificates must be obtained by visa applicants' and Algeria is on that list.

Although as I said, Abdel has not lived outside the UK for 18 years.

I know about the standard police check though, thats easy enough to organise.

I suppose its how long DIMIA take to do their own Character check.

JAJ

If you read form 47P it should say that you don't need police checks for places you lived more than 10 years ago.

However if he's an Algerian citizen - or if he visits there regularly - then get a police check to be on the safe side. Just in case they do ask for one, or if it can take a long time - the last thing you will need is for a delay of months at the final stage.

As for security checks, nothing you can do about those.



Jeremy