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Old Sep 10th 2006, 12:17 am
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I my self am an Australian citizen of Croatian origin recently I have
been to Croatia to visit friends and family for a duration of 15 weeks
and in that time I found my self in love with a very nice girl and have
been with her nearly the whole time, here is where it gets complicated.

Me and my partner come from a small village who knows everyone and
family’s know each other etc. Now shi is at her 6th week of pregnancy
and we have really talked about all of this and we know that both sides
of the family would strongly be against our intentions to be together
but that’s not really the problem, we can legally get married in
Croatia but not stay there for no longer than her being more than 3
months pregnant in fear of her side finding out where we live. So I
have done a whole lot of research but I still would like to know more
advice before im 100% sure, So after we get legally married in Croatia
we cannot stay there longer than anther 6 weeks. After that time we
seek to go to perhaps Czech Republic for a 3 months stay visa free than
to probably Tunis where same rules apply, then when shi delivers our
child would automatically gain Australian citizenship? and on the basis
our new born is Australian citizen and I am the father my partner gets
Australian citizenship?

Ill be straight I have no qualifications I have worked on the mines as
a labourer/machine operator im 20 years of age finished year 11 and my
partner has no qualifications and is still at the Croatian equivalent
of tafe so im at crisis point to find out what are our options and what
would be the best thing to do? I will seek to put in an application soon
through a immigration lawyer but would like to hear from someone who has
some sought of info on this that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

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Old Sep 11th 2006, 7:19 am
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Jadran wrote:

    > Me and my partner come from a small village who knows everyone and
    > familyâ��s know each other etc. Now shi is at her 6th week of pregnancy
    > and we have really talked about all of this and we know that both sides
    > of the family would strongly be against our intentions to be together
    > but thatâ��s not really the problem, we can legally get married in
    > Croatia but not stay there for no longer than her being more than 3
    > months pregnant in fear of her side finding out where we live. So I
    > have done a whole lot of research but I still would like to know more
    > advice before im 100% sure, So after we get legally married in Croatia
    > we cannot stay there longer than anther 6 weeks. After that time we
    > seek to go to perhaps Czech Republic for a 3 months stay visa free than
    > to probably Tunis where same rules apply, then when shi delivers our
    > child would automatically gain Australian citizenship? and on the basis
    > our new born is Australian citizen and I am the father my partner gets
    > Australian citizenship?

Man, where this village is?

I'm from Croatia, too - I think you tend to make things complicated.

Be honest, don't hide (it's 21st century), tell the family your
intentions, and focus on moving her to Australia (not Czech or
somewhere). You'll lose lot of energy.

Good luck!
 
Old Sep 12th 2006, 2:16 am
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ack Jadran...... sta se desilo???

I'm from Serbian origin... and married over in Serbia after finding my true
love back in 2002... only we didn't have the complications you seem to be
having.....

If your baby is born in another country, I presume thats where it becomes a
citizen of......... you'll need to apply, as far as I am aware, for your
child to become an Aussie citizen.

We just had our first child and if I wanted to make him a Serbian citizen
(which I don't), I'd need to apply over there. I presume so anyhow. I know I
wanted to apply to become a dual citizen and they like to complicate things
(over there anyhow).

You know... there is nothing stopping you ringing DIMIA and asking
anonymously your same query and their advice... I did the same thing when
applying for my spouse to come to Australia.

It doesnt matter that she is unskilled or unemployed, if you applied for a
spousal visa, the fact that you two are married will count. Are you employed
and able to support her is she came over? Looks like you have gotten
yourself into a bit of a quandrary!!! Where in Australia are you from??

oh.... and while I am harrassing you with questions.... why do you think the
families will be against your union? maybe they will change their mind once
they know your intention of staying together given she is pregnant?

Lili

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    > I my self am an Australian citizen of Croatian origin recently I have
    > been to Croatia to visit friends and family for a duration of 15 weeks
    > and in that time I found my self in love with a very nice girl and have
    > been with her nearly the whole time, here is where it gets complicated.
    > Me and my partner come from a small village who knows everyone and
    > family�?Ts know each other etc. Now shi is at her 6th week of pregnancy
    > and we have really talked about all of this and we know that both sides
    > of the family would strongly be against our intentions to be together
    > but that�?Ts not really the problem, we can legally get married in
    > Croatia but not stay there for no longer than her being more than 3
    > months pregnant in fear of her side finding out where we live. So I
    > have done a whole lot of research but I still would like to know more
    > advice before im 100% sure, So after we get legally married in Croatia
    > we cannot stay there longer than anther 6 weeks. After that time we
    > seek to go to perhaps Czech Republic for a 3 months stay visa free than
    > to probably Tunis where same rules apply, then when shi delivers our
    > child would automatically gain Australian citizenship? and on the basis
    > our new born is Australian citizen and I am the father my partner gets
    > Australian citizenship?
    > Ill be straight I have no qualifications I have worked on the mines as
    > a labourer/machine operator im 20 years of age finished year 11 and my
    > partner has no qualifications and is still at the Croatian equivalent
    > of tafe so im at crisis point to find out what are our options and what
    > would be the best thing to do? I will seek to put in an application soon
    > through a immigration lawyer but would like to hear from someone who has
    > some sought of info on this that would be greatly appreciated.
    > Thanks.
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Default Re: Help needed for the name of love

Originally Posted by Jadran
I my self am an Australian citizen of Croatian origin recently I have
been to Croatia to visit friends and family for a duration of 15 weeks
and in that time I found my self in love with a very nice girl and have
been with her nearly the whole time, here is where it gets complicated.

Me and my partner come from a small village who knows everyone and
family’s know each other etc. Now shi is at her 6th week of pregnancy
and we have really talked about all of this and we know that both sides
of the family would strongly be against our intentions to be together
but that’s not really the problem, we can legally get married in
Croatia but not stay there for no longer than her being more than 3
months pregnant in fear of her side finding out where we live. So I
have done a whole lot of research but I still would like to know more
advice before im 100% sure, So after we get legally married in Croatia
we cannot stay there longer than anther 6 weeks. After that time we
seek to go to perhaps Czech Republic for a 3 months stay visa free than
to probably Tunis where same rules apply, then when shi delivers our
child would automatically gain Australian citizenship? and on the basis
our new born is Australian citizen and I am the father my partner gets
Australian citizenship?

Ill be straight I have no qualifications I have worked on the mines as
a labourer/machine operator im 20 years of age finished year 11 and my
partner has no qualifications and is still at the Croatian equivalent
of tafe so im at crisis point to find out what are our options and what
would be the best thing to do? I will seek to put in an application soon
through a immigration lawyer but would like to hear from someone who has
some sought of info on this that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

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I think you can apply to get Australian citizenship for your child but you will need to apply for a spouse visa for your wife. She will not get Australian citizenship automatically. Basically she would be on a temporary visa for 2 years and then gets Permanent residency. Currently you need 2 years of permanent residence in Australia to qualify for citizenship but this could all be changing in the new year. Here is the relevant booklet to help you get started, detailing the evidence, medical and police checks etc you wil need to get and send off. http://www.dimia.gov.au/allforms/booklets/1127.pdf

Good luck!
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Old Oct 1st 2006, 10:23 am
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Hi Jadran

You may find useful info on this link www.southern-cross-group.org Ciao
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Jadran wrote:
    > I my self am an Australian citizen of Croatian origin recently I have
    > been to Croatia to visit friends and family for a duration of 15 weeks
    > and in that time I found my self in love with a very nice girl and have
    > been with her nearly the whole time, here is where it gets complicated.
    > Me and my partner come from a small village who knows everyone and
    > family's know each other etc. Now shi is at her 6th week of pregnancy
    > and we have really talked about all of this and we know that both sides
    > of the family would strongly be against our intentions to be together
    > but that's not really the problem, we can legally get married in
    > Croatia but not stay there for no longer than her being more than 3
    > months pregnant in fear of her side finding out where we live. So I
    > have done a whole lot of research but I still would like to know more
    > advice before im 100% sure, So after we get legally married in Croatia
    > we cannot stay there longer than anther 6 weeks. After that time we
    > seek to go to perhaps Czech Republic for a 3 months stay visa free than
    > to probably Tunis where same rules apply, then when shi delivers our
    > child would automatically gain Australian citizenship? and on the basis
    > our new born is Australian citizen and I am the father my partner gets
    > Australian citizenship?
    > Ill be straight I have no qualifications I have worked on the mines as
    > a labourer/machine operator im 20 years of age finished year 11 and my
    > partner has no qualifications and is still at the Croatian equivalent
    > of tafe so im at crisis point to find out what are our options and what
    > would be the best thing to do? I will seek to put in an application soon
    > through a immigration lawyer but would like to hear from someone who has
    > some sought of info on this that would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Posted via http://www.mymigration.net
 
Old Oct 1st 2006, 2:11 pm
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Default Re: Help needed for the name of love

Originally Posted by Jadran
when shi delivers our
child would automatically gain Australian citizenship? and on the basis
our new born is Australian citizen and I am the father my partner gets
Australian citizenship?
You will have to register the child as Australian by descent:
http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/118.pdf

This can be done if you are Australian by birth or naturalisation. If you're Australian by descent you will need to show 2 years legal residence in Australia.

Sorry, your partner won't get Australian citizenship this way. She will need to be sponsored to migrate to Australia and become naturalised Australian in due course.
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