Engineering Technologist vs Associate
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Hi! I know this may seem a very general question. But the Overseas Qualkit of IEAUST discusses the competencies of each category in a very general way too.
I have an Electronics and Communcations Engg degree and I want to be qualified as a Technologist but based on the kit, it seems that my job belongs to the Associate, BUT im not really sure. What I want to do is to avoid being categorized in the Associate level. Can I exagerate my narratives a litte, so as to show a technologist's competency?
What if my job only focuses in one technology? fyi, I work as a service engineer for an SMT equipment and I do the installation, programming, training, aftersales service, consultation, recommendation of design, etc.
Can anybody say from a viewpoint that I have a chance in the technologist level? If exagerating(white lies) my CDR would be the answer then I'd go for it.
I have an Electronics and Communcations Engg degree and I want to be qualified as a Technologist but based on the kit, it seems that my job belongs to the Associate, BUT im not really sure. What I want to do is to avoid being categorized in the Associate level. Can I exagerate my narratives a litte, so as to show a technologist's competency?
What if my job only focuses in one technology? fyi, I work as a service engineer for an SMT equipment and I do the installation, programming, training, aftersales service, consultation, recommendation of design, etc.
Can anybody say from a viewpoint that I have a chance in the technologist level? If exagerating(white lies) my CDR would be the answer then I'd go for it.
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If you already have a degree, there is a chance it may be enough. From my own experience:
I work as a highway maintenance engineer, qualifications being degree in Physics (1983) and HNC in Civil Engineering (1990). When i checked with IEAust, it looked as if my HNC would be acceptable under one of the International Accords (Sydney or Washington) to be assessed as Engineering Technologist.
Next step was to check with UK Engineering Council. Checking on their Accredited Courses database (ACAD), i couldn't find my HNC anywhere. An email to Eng Council, brought the response that my HNC was not acceptable as there were no Computing modules within it (they appeared about 1992 at the college i went to). I then thought CDR was the only option open to me.
Partly out of desparation, partly out of curiosity i checked the ACAD for my Physics degree. It was there, and acceptable under one of the Accords as qualification for Professional Engineer
). Thereafter, no problems in getting positive assessment from Engineers Australia. Irony being i did even less computing for the physics degree than for the HNC!
I can't speak with any knowledge for your branch of engineering, but - dig deep enough and there is a chance you may be oK with what you've got (if your degree is acceptable under one of the Accords for Engineering Technologist or better. Obviously for maximum points your recent work experience would have to tie in with whatever Occupation code you're aiming for).
If not, CDR comes up in threads here quite often, so you should be able to search and find something useful. I would have dreaded it - having to tailor my career description to match the competencies they want to see in writing.
Hope this helps
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Karl
I work as a highway maintenance engineer, qualifications being degree in Physics (1983) and HNC in Civil Engineering (1990). When i checked with IEAust, it looked as if my HNC would be acceptable under one of the International Accords (Sydney or Washington) to be assessed as Engineering Technologist.
Next step was to check with UK Engineering Council. Checking on their Accredited Courses database (ACAD), i couldn't find my HNC anywhere. An email to Eng Council, brought the response that my HNC was not acceptable as there were no Computing modules within it (they appeared about 1992 at the college i went to). I then thought CDR was the only option open to me.
Partly out of desparation, partly out of curiosity i checked the ACAD for my Physics degree. It was there, and acceptable under one of the Accords as qualification for Professional Engineer
). Thereafter, no problems in getting positive assessment from Engineers Australia. Irony being i did even less computing for the physics degree than for the HNC!I can't speak with any knowledge for your branch of engineering, but - dig deep enough and there is a chance you may be oK with what you've got (if your degree is acceptable under one of the Accords for Engineering Technologist or better. Obviously for maximum points your recent work experience would have to tie in with whatever Occupation code you're aiming for).
If not, CDR comes up in threads here quite often, so you should be able to search and find something useful. I would have dreaded it - having to tailor my career description to match the competencies they want to see in writing.
Hope this helps
Regards
Karl
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Thanks, Karl. My degree is not recognized in any accords so i have to make the CDR- which is what im doing now.
I still have doubts coz the guidelines in the Overseas Kit of the Ieaust doesn't really differentiate much the competencies of the two categories I mentioned. Which makes me think, as a technologist, it's possible to have the job of an Associate too. I can't seem to point out the difference, except the education.
I still have doubts coz the guidelines in the Overseas Kit of the Ieaust doesn't really differentiate much the competencies of the two categories I mentioned. Which makes me think, as a technologist, it's possible to have the job of an Associate too. I can't seem to point out the difference, except the education.
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When i thought i might have to go the CDR route, i pessimistically thought of it as a long shot. Afterwards, looking at other threads on CDR, especially those from people who'd been successful it didn't sound half as bad as i'd imagined - particularly if you construct the report exactly as they outline in the guidelines.
On first read it's all daunting, but then i cleared in my mind various suitable career episodes to demonstrate competency, although i admit some of the justification for some competencies would have been weak or tenuous! So i was glad when my quals were confirmed as OK.
Anyway, it looks like hard work - but this will give you good practice for filling in the visa application! ;o)
Anyway - good luck!
Karl
On first read it's all daunting, but then i cleared in my mind various suitable career episodes to demonstrate competency, although i admit some of the justification for some competencies would have been weak or tenuous! So i was glad when my quals were confirmed as OK.
Anyway, it looks like hard work - but this will give you good practice for filling in the visa application! ;o)
Anyway - good luck!
Karl
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Originally Posted by pink_margarita
Thanks, Karl. My degree is not recognized in any accords so i have to make the CDR- which is what im doing now.
I still have doubts coz the guidelines in the Overseas Kit of the Ieaust doesn't really differentiate much the competencies of the two categories I mentioned. Which makes me think, as a technologist, it's possible to have the job of an Associate too. I can't seem to point out the difference, except the education.
I still have doubts coz the guidelines in the Overseas Kit of the Ieaust doesn't really differentiate much the competencies of the two categories I mentioned. Which makes me think, as a technologist, it's possible to have the job of an Associate too. I can't seem to point out the difference, except the education.
You can apply as professional engineer. IEAust will automatically downgrade you to technologist or associate if they think you are not qualified for the higher level. So it doesn't harm to apply for the highest grade.
Fred
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Originally Posted by Mastermind
Hi Margarita,
You can apply as professional engineer. IEAust will automatically downgrade you to technologist or associate if they think you are not qualified for the higher level. So it doesn't harm to apply for the highest grade.
Fred
You can apply as professional engineer. IEAust will automatically downgrade you to technologist or associate if they think you are not qualified for the higher level. So it doesn't harm to apply for the highest grade.
Fred
I heard from some people that IEAUST will only assess you on the category that you choose and if you dont satisfy it, they automatically reject...
please, can you help me clear this up? I already emailed ieaust but no reply from them yet.
thanks so much





