scottyboy

I left my very first job (1yr) on bad terms after I got chemical
poisoning and reported my employers for health and safety.
Thing is I REALLY don't want go back to them for a ref as I still
fear repocusions.
This guy sacked his own nephew for not wanting to work with
chemicals that had been banned
I have no proof of myself woking there and was thinking of
writing a stat dec.
Has anyone else been in a similar situation where you can't/won't
aproach an ex-employer for a ref?
If so what did you do?

Iwannabethere

We had this as ref supplied was hopeless (hubby tried to sue them). We did have payslips and contract of employment. We wrote a stat dec and was accepted by ACS for skills assessment.

Is there anyone else at the company (not Mr Nasty!) that might do another stat dec to confirm you worked there, or even a brief "Scottyboy worked for C**pCo from date to date as jobtitle" on headed paper?

And do you actually need a ref from them? How far back into your working history are you going?

travelbug

do you really need that year to be included in your relevant work experience? if so, i'd say a stat dec is your best bet. Or alternatively you could try and get bank statements (if you were paid into your account) that would show your employers name to prove you were in paid employment. Some banks will (for a fee and depending on how long ago it is) access their archives for you. We used a copy of a payroll relating to a company that had been taken over to prove employment dates and that was accepted by the TRA - although we did have numerous other references too.

hottroc

I am dreading having to approach any of my ex-employers.

Let's face it in general they are EX employers either because they hated you, you hated them or because you had a better offer (in which case you were disloyal). Unless you were made redundant, in which case they obviously thought you werent important.

I nearly took one of my employers to court for cutting my wages and changing my conditions, but got another job instead. One redundancy due to a company merger, and the boss disliked me anyway. Several companies I was happy to leave and would have preferred not to have to sweet-talk to.

The Oz government really expects a lot in return for giving a sticker in your passport

travelbug

Quote - Let's face it in general they are EX employers either because they hated you, you hated them or because you had a better offer (in which case you were disloyal). Unless you were made redundant, in which case they obviously thought you werent important.

I dont know - i dont think that applies to all people's trades.....where my OH is concerned because he's sub-contracted to various people it just means that contracts dont last long so there's always going to be a long list of ex employees...
he's always worked using the motto of not burning any bridges or leaving on bad terms. (i know that isnt always possible for everyone)...

and as for OZ expecting a lot - arent we expecting the country to provide what we're lacking here in the UK (whatever each of ours ambitions are?).

travelbug

didnt mean for that last comment to be taken the wrong way? not sure it came out as i meant it!!!

dwaindibley

I had a similar situation with one of mine, the benefit i had was that i still had letters from them regarding my dismissal and my pay slips. I completed a stat dec detailing my employment time, wages and duties this was fine for the ACS with all the rest of the references, i even did one of my project reports on a project i had done at the company.

Hope you can work around this but the stat dec option is there for just this reason.

good luck

Rob

Nerine

Can you use the Stat Dec as a way round the present employer having to give a reference? Got bank slips, contract of employment, annual bonus letters etc.

hcmcman

do the DIMA realy contact every ones past employer??????

Dorothy

They don't necessarily contact everyone's past employer, but if there is any question about your employment history then they will check.

hottroc

Yes I agree for some trades though technically if he's a subcontractor like that then the people concerned are customers rather than employers

Yes me too, though not always possible. A few times I have refrained from telling the boss where to stick it, however I think my displeasure has been apparent.

Yes agreed, though I also believe we could be providing benefit to Australia.

scottyboy

It's kind of reassuring to know I'm not the only one to miss out on the
Employee of the Year award.
I think past and present employers have always regarded me as a
necessary evil.

hottroc

Haha, you sound like me. I was in one job for a further 12 months after the initial vibes that the boss wanted to get rid of me, while they tried desperately to figure out how they could manage without me. Damn, I sound real big-headed and arrogant saying that. It was a small company and I had a lot of responsibility, a fact the boss realised but didn't appreciate if you know what I mean.