DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:38 am
#31
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
Hi Hanu,
the IT Job Market is not too bad in Germany in spite of the very small
economic growth (+0.25%-0.5%) over the last 3 years. But it still not
to be compared with the IT market in Australia (At least when I
consider the offers in
the Sydney news papers and compare them with those in the german news
papers). But you have to be very good skilled. Most areas needed are
ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
not in
demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
whole Germany (believe it or not).
Since i am loosing my job any way (If I don't like to move to cologne)
I sent some CVs to different companies. I had 4 interviews and 2 jobs
(which I rejected, since I would loose my redundancy pay, if I leave
the company
before end of September). So I think that you could find a job here,
if you fulfil the requirement written above.
Additionally, you do not have to speak german like a german (this is
impossible anyway :-)). German, like to speak english, they even don't
give you a chance to learn german :-). I know some people from India
working for
Lufthansa here at the airport in Frankfurt. I met them some times in
the canteen. They really cannot speak a single word in german (except
international words bad and goods like Ich liebe Dich = I love you and
Scheiße = Shi..!!
An other issue: German companies love certificates, diplomas etc. The
more you have, the better.
For additional information please refer to the following web site:
http://www.arbeitsamt.de/zav/service...t/publish.html
Rgds
Sadeq
hanu wrote in message news:...
> Hi Mike,
> How is the I.T environment in Germany? Germany being the Europe's
> biggest Economic Power should be having lot of jobs in I.T ?
> btw,Have you heard of Max Mueller?
the IT Job Market is not too bad in Germany in spite of the very small
economic growth (+0.25%-0.5%) over the last 3 years. But it still not
to be compared with the IT market in Australia (At least when I
consider the offers in
the Sydney news papers and compare them with those in the german news
papers). But you have to be very good skilled. Most areas needed are
ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
not in
demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
whole Germany (believe it or not).
Since i am loosing my job any way (If I don't like to move to cologne)
I sent some CVs to different companies. I had 4 interviews and 2 jobs
(which I rejected, since I would loose my redundancy pay, if I leave
the company
before end of September). So I think that you could find a job here,
if you fulfil the requirement written above.
Additionally, you do not have to speak german like a german (this is
impossible anyway :-)). German, like to speak english, they even don't
give you a chance to learn german :-). I know some people from India
working for
Lufthansa here at the airport in Frankfurt. I met them some times in
the canteen. They really cannot speak a single word in german (except
international words bad and goods like Ich liebe Dich = I love you and
Scheiße = Shi..!!
An other issue: German companies love certificates, diplomas etc. The
more you have, the better.
For additional information please refer to the following web site:
http://www.arbeitsamt.de/zav/service...t/publish.html
Rgds
Sadeq
hanu wrote in message news:...
> Hi Mike,
> How is the I.T environment in Germany? Germany being the Europe's
> biggest Economic Power should be having lot of jobs in I.T ?
> btw,Have you heard of Max Mueller?
Jun 23rd 2003, 9:57 am
#32
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
..and as an Aussie working in Germany, I can confirm Sadeq's analysis.
There are IT jobs to be found in the areas he mentions, even for those
with very poor German language skills (like me!).
Anyway, I'm returning to Oz as I've been away too long!
Carlos.
PS: The name Max Mueller may not ring a bell except for those from
south asia, where the local Goethe Institutes are known as Max Mueller
Institutes - after the 19th century German "Indologist", Max Mueller.
"Sadeq El Maazouzi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Hanu,
> the IT Job Market is not too bad in Germany in spite of the very small
> economic growth (+0.25%-0.5%) over the last 3 years. But it still not
> to be compared with the IT market in Australia (At least when I
> consider the offers in
> the Sydney news papers and compare them with those in the german news
> papers). But you have to be very good skilled. Most areas needed are
> ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
> not in
> demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
> know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
> whole Germany (believe it or not).
> Since i am loosing my job any way (If I don't like to move to cologne)
> I sent some CVs to different companies. I had 4 interviews and 2 jobs
> (which I rejected, since I would loose my redundancy pay, if I leave
> the company
> before end of September). So I think that you could find a job here,
> if you fulfil the requirement written above.
> Additionally, you do not have to speak german like a german (this is
> impossible anyway :-)). German, like to speak english, they even don't
> give you a chance to learn german :-). I know some people from India
> working for
> Lufthansa here at the airport in Frankfurt. I met them some times in
> the canteen. They really cannot speak a single word in german (except
> international words bad and goods like Ich liebe Dich = I love you and
> Scheiße = Shi..!!
> An other issue: German companies love certificates, diplomas etc. The
> more you have, the better.
> For additional information please refer to the following web site:
http://www.arbeitsamt.de/zav/service...t/publish.html
> Rgds
> Sadeq
> hanu wrote in message
news:...
> > Hi Mike,
> > How is the I.T environment in Germany? Germany being the Europe's
> > biggest Economic Power should be having lot of jobs in I.T ?
> > btw,Have you heard of Max Mueller?
There are IT jobs to be found in the areas he mentions, even for those
with very poor German language skills (like me!).
Anyway, I'm returning to Oz as I've been away too long!
Carlos.
PS: The name Max Mueller may not ring a bell except for those from
south asia, where the local Goethe Institutes are known as Max Mueller
Institutes - after the 19th century German "Indologist", Max Mueller.
"Sadeq El Maazouzi" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Hanu,
> the IT Job Market is not too bad in Germany in spite of the very small
> economic growth (+0.25%-0.5%) over the last 3 years. But it still not
> to be compared with the IT market in Australia (At least when I
> consider the offers in
> the Sydney news papers and compare them with those in the german news
> papers). But you have to be very good skilled. Most areas needed are
> ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
> not in
> demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
> know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
> whole Germany (believe it or not).
> Since i am loosing my job any way (If I don't like to move to cologne)
> I sent some CVs to different companies. I had 4 interviews and 2 jobs
> (which I rejected, since I would loose my redundancy pay, if I leave
> the company
> before end of September). So I think that you could find a job here,
> if you fulfil the requirement written above.
> Additionally, you do not have to speak german like a german (this is
> impossible anyway :-)). German, like to speak english, they even don't
> give you a chance to learn german :-). I know some people from India
> working for
> Lufthansa here at the airport in Frankfurt. I met them some times in
> the canteen. They really cannot speak a single word in german (except
> international words bad and goods like Ich liebe Dich = I love you and
> Scheiße = Shi..!!
> An other issue: German companies love certificates, diplomas etc. The
> more you have, the better.
> For additional information please refer to the following web site:
http://www.arbeitsamt.de/zav/service...t/publish.html
> Rgds
> Sadeq
> hanu wrote in message
news:...
> > Hi Mike,
> > How is the I.T environment in Germany? Germany being the Europe's
> > biggest Economic Power should be having lot of jobs in I.T ?
> > btw,Have you heard of Max Mueller?
Jun 23rd 2003, 2:06 pm
#33
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
"Carlos A" wrote in news:[email protected]:
> ..and as an Aussie working in Germany, I can confirm Sadeq's analysis.
> There are IT jobs to be found in the areas he mentions, even for those
> with very poor German language skills (like me!).
>
> Anyway, I'm returning to Oz as I've been away too long!
>
> Carlos.
>
> PS: The name Max Mueller may not ring a bell except for those from
> south asia, where the local Goethe Institutes are known as Max Mueller
> Institutes - after the 19th century German "Indologist", Max Mueller.
If I'd ever heard of them I had sure forgotten. Shows how long I've been
away...
Mike
> ..and as an Aussie working in Germany, I can confirm Sadeq's analysis.
> There are IT jobs to be found in the areas he mentions, even for those
> with very poor German language skills (like me!).
>
> Anyway, I'm returning to Oz as I've been away too long!
>
> Carlos.
>
> PS: The name Max Mueller may not ring a bell except for those from
> south asia, where the local Goethe Institutes are known as Max Mueller
> Institutes - after the 19th century German "Indologist", Max Mueller.
If I'd ever heard of them I had sure forgotten. Shows how long I've been
away...
Mike
Jun 23rd 2003, 5:15 pm
#34
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Syed,Thanks for your info.
Mike,btw,here is some info abt Max Mueller
.He is famous in India though he lived in the 19th century.
http://www.yrec.org/mueller.html
Mike,btw,here is some info abt Max Mueller
.He is famous in India though he lived in the 19th century.http://www.yrec.org/mueller.html
Jun 24th 2003, 12:49 am
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
[email protected] (Sadeq El Maazouzi) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
> not in
> demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
> know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
> whole Germany (believe it or not).
Sadeq,
Interesting comment. It reminds me of the discussion I had with some IT
security people just yesterday.
My flight instructor some years ago made a comment that may apply here:
aviation regulation is written in the blood of the victims of the accidents
that happened through the inaction of the legislature.
Meaning, organizations like the FAA or the NTSB only move to make safety
issues mandatory once people die of them. Until then the industry fights
them tooth, nail and lawyers.
My take is that it will take something similar in IT security - a huge
corporate collapse that can't be covered up (unlike the billions banks
already suffer from security lapses but cover up "to avoid damage to their
reputation") or where people actually get hurt, even killed.
Sad, but that's apparently how human enterprises work. I expect this to be
the same in the US, Germany or Australia.
I'm still getting my CISSP.
Mike
news:[email protected]:
> ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
> not in
> demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
> know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
> whole Germany (believe it or not).
Sadeq,
Interesting comment. It reminds me of the discussion I had with some IT
security people just yesterday.
My flight instructor some years ago made a comment that may apply here:
aviation regulation is written in the blood of the victims of the accidents
that happened through the inaction of the legislature.
Meaning, organizations like the FAA or the NTSB only move to make safety
issues mandatory once people die of them. Until then the industry fights
them tooth, nail and lawyers.
My take is that it will take something similar in IT security - a huge
corporate collapse that can't be covered up (unlike the billions banks
already suffer from security lapses but cover up "to avoid damage to their
reputation") or where people actually get hurt, even killed.
Sad, but that's apparently how human enterprises work. I expect this to be
the same in the US, Germany or Australia.
I'm still getting my CISSP.
Mike
Jun 24th 2003, 11:29 am
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
Mike,
I am planning the same too. But I would like to learn for it when I
arrive in Sydney. I have already read a lot (The CISSP All-In-One Exam
Guide. -- Shon Harris). But it is booring.
So I decided to wait till Oz and start learning while the sun shines
on my belly.
Salut
Sadeq
PS. Do you receommend any books or sites (Except (ISC)2)?
Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:...
> [email protected] (Sadeq El Maazouzi) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
> > not in
> > demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
> > know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
> > whole Germany (believe it or not).
> >
>
> Sadeq,
>
> Interesting comment. It reminds me of the discussion I had with some IT
> security people just yesterday.
>
> My flight instructor some years ago made a comment that may apply here:
> aviation regulation is written in the blood of the victims of the accidents
> that happened through the inaction of the legislature.
>
> Meaning, organizations like the FAA or the NTSB only move to make safety
> issues mandatory once people die of them. Until then the industry fights
> them tooth, nail and lawyers.
>
> My take is that it will take something similar in IT security - a huge
> corporate collapse that can't be covered up (unlike the billions banks
> already suffer from security lapses but cover up "to avoid damage to their
> reputation") or where people actually get hurt, even killed.
>
> Sad, but that's apparently how human enterprises work. I expect this to be
> the same in the US, Germany or Australia.
>
> I'm still getting my CISSP.
>
> Mike
I am planning the same too. But I would like to learn for it when I
arrive in Sydney. I have already read a lot (The CISSP All-In-One Exam
Guide. -- Shon Harris). But it is booring.
So I decided to wait till Oz and start learning while the sun shines
on my belly.
Salut
Sadeq
PS. Do you receommend any books or sites (Except (ISC)2)?
Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:...
> [email protected] (Sadeq El Maazouzi) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > ERP, Data warehouse, IT infrastructure management. Security is still
> > not in
> > demand (I cannot understand it but it is really true. Few IT people
> > know what CISSP is). There is no centres to train for CISSP in the
> > whole Germany (believe it or not).
> >
>
> Sadeq,
>
> Interesting comment. It reminds me of the discussion I had with some IT
> security people just yesterday.
>
> My flight instructor some years ago made a comment that may apply here:
> aviation regulation is written in the blood of the victims of the accidents
> that happened through the inaction of the legislature.
>
> Meaning, organizations like the FAA or the NTSB only move to make safety
> issues mandatory once people die of them. Until then the industry fights
> them tooth, nail and lawyers.
>
> My take is that it will take something similar in IT security - a huge
> corporate collapse that can't be covered up (unlike the billions banks
> already suffer from security lapses but cover up "to avoid damage to their
> reputation") or where people actually get hurt, even killed.
>
> Sad, but that's apparently how human enterprises work. I expect this to be
> the same in the US, Germany or Australia.
>
> I'm still getting my CISSP.
>
> Mike
Jun 24th 2003, 2:25 pm
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
[email protected] (Sadeq El Maazouzi) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Mike,
>
> I am planning the same too. But I would like to learn for it when I
> arrive in Sydney. I have already read a lot (The CISSP All-In-One Exam
> Guide. -- Shon Harris). But it is booring.
> So I decided to wait till Oz and start learning while the sun shines
> on my belly.
Yes, I have Shon's book. It'd dry going but her book is considered the most
complete study guide and a good reference by CISSPs that I've talked to
(and by ISC2).
There's another one that I have at work.... can't remember. Much more of a
pure exam cram book. Meaning, even drier but more tailored to the ISC2
exam.
Mike
news:[email protected]:
> Mike,
>
> I am planning the same too. But I would like to learn for it when I
> arrive in Sydney. I have already read a lot (The CISSP All-In-One Exam
> Guide. -- Shon Harris). But it is booring.
> So I decided to wait till Oz and start learning while the sun shines
> on my belly.
Yes, I have Shon's book. It'd dry going but her book is considered the most
complete study guide and a good reference by CISSPs that I've talked to
(and by ISC2).
There's another one that I have at work.... can't remember. Much more of a
pure exam cram book. Meaning, even drier but more tailored to the ISC2
exam.
Mike
Jun 27th 2003, 1:06 pm
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Posts: 255
Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
Originally posted by ptlabs
Originally posted by Sadeq El Maazouzi
> We have received today the Medical and PCC. DIMIA requests
> also that my wife needs to take the IELTS test. We would
> prefer to avoid this step as it costs money and lots of time.
The second installment for adult migrant English tuition may be a little bit more expensive than appearing for an IELTS test.
> It is possible to write an email to our case officer and ask him
> to do a telephone interview with her?
Nothing stopping you from doing that. You could also ask your case officer to send you a first-class air ticket to Australia as a welcome gift too.
Peter
Originally posted by Sadeq El Maazouzi
> We have received today the Medical and PCC. DIMIA requests
> also that my wife needs to take the IELTS test. We would
> prefer to avoid this step as it costs money and lots of time.
The second installment for adult migrant English tuition may be a little bit more expensive than appearing for an IELTS test.
> It is possible to write an email to our case officer and ask him
> to do a telephone interview with her?
Nothing stopping you from doing that. You could also ask your case officer to send you a first-class air ticket to Australia as a welcome gift too.
Peter
Pete,
Do u have to be such a sarcastic a#!$hole all the time..??
The guy was just asking a valid question....! Answer him or go to hell ! dont ridicule him just because he has a muslim name. !!
Jun 27th 2003, 1:18 pm
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
Originally posted by Stupid guy
Pete,
Do u have to be such a sarcastic a#!$hole all the time..??
The guy was just asking a valid question....! Answer him or go to hell ! dont ridicule him just because he has a muslim name. !!
Pete,
Do u have to be such a sarcastic a#!$hole all the time..??
The guy was just asking a valid question....! Answer him or go to hell ! dont ridicule him just because he has a muslim name. !!
Talking about showing a lack of respect for people...
Jun 28th 2003, 3:39 am
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
Originally posted by Hans de Visser
Well, "Stupid guy", the name certainly suits you. So Peter was a bit sarcastic, does that give you the right to tell him to go to hell and accuse him of being a racist?
Talking about showing a lack of respect for people...
Well, "Stupid guy", the name certainly suits you. So Peter was a bit sarcastic, does that give you the right to tell him to go to hell and accuse him of being a racist?
Talking about showing a lack of respect for people...
..neat, so when do we get to discuss Peter's rights ??
Jun 28th 2003, 9:26 am
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
Mike,
I have missed this one :-)
To be honest, I have no idea which name God has and I don't care
whether her name is God, Buda, Allah, Jesus or even Ashcroft. The only
thing I believe on is that there is someting very strong controlling
all this universe (NOT just our Glob:-). If it is Ashcroft, OK fine
with me.
Rgds
Sadeq
Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:...
> [email protected] (Sadeq El Maazouzi) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Michael, you bad boy !!
> > You have to believe in God and I promise to you, you will sit and pass
> > the exam 9+. Cheers
>
> Which one, Sadeq?
>
> Here, there is only one acceptable god, and his name is John Ashcroft. And
> if you say "Allah" the new secret police here will send me to a governmant
> paid stay in Camp X-Ray.
>
> Mike
I have missed this one :-)
To be honest, I have no idea which name God has and I don't care
whether her name is God, Buda, Allah, Jesus or even Ashcroft. The only
thing I believe on is that there is someting very strong controlling
all this universe (NOT just our Glob:-). If it is Ashcroft, OK fine
with me.
Rgds
Sadeq
Michael Hoffman wrote in message news:...
> [email protected] (Sadeq El Maazouzi) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Michael, you bad boy !!
> > You have to believe in God and I promise to you, you will sit and pass
> > the exam 9+. Cheers
>
> Which one, Sadeq?
>
> Here, there is only one acceptable god, and his name is John Ashcroft. And
> if you say "Allah" the new secret police here will send me to a governmant
> paid stay in Camp X-Ray.
>
> Mike
Jun 28th 2003, 9:36 am
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
He Gents,
What is going on here? Slow down, please :-)
If somebody is racist so it is not my problem. Any way I don't believe
that somebody here is racist. The only thing is that some people do
not have enough information to judge other properly.
Peter has already sent an excuse for his behaviour, which I found ok.
The reaction of people depends only on some circumstances (Do they had
good sex a night before :-), Do they sleep well etc. etc..)
So let all the prejudices and let us close this subject for ever.
An Answer to the question I had sent has been already given. Thanks a
lot to every body.
Sadeq
Stupid guy wrote in message news:...
> Originally posted by Hans de Visser
> > Well, "Stupid guy", the name certainly suits you. So Peter was a bit
> > sarcastic, does that give you the right to tell him to go to hell and
> > accuse him of being a racist?
> > Talking about showing a lack of respect for people...
>
>
> .neat, so when do we get to discuss Peter's rights ??
What is going on here? Slow down, please :-)
If somebody is racist so it is not my problem. Any way I don't believe
that somebody here is racist. The only thing is that some people do
not have enough information to judge other properly.
Peter has already sent an excuse for his behaviour, which I found ok.
The reaction of people depends only on some circumstances (Do they had
good sex a night before :-), Do they sleep well etc. etc..)
So let all the prejudices and let us close this subject for ever.
An Answer to the question I had sent has been already given. Thanks a
lot to every body.
Sadeq
Stupid guy wrote in message news:...
> Originally posted by Hans de Visser
> > Well, "Stupid guy", the name certainly suits you. So Peter was a bit
> > sarcastic, does that give you the right to tell him to go to hell and
> > accuse him of being a racist?
> > Talking about showing a lack of respect for people...
>
>
> .neat, so when do we get to discuss Peter's rights ??
Jun 28th 2003, 11:19 am
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Stupid_Guy is a Troll
Hi,
Stupid_Guy is a troll who used to write innane answers in the discussion board of http://www.tcscanadainc.com .
Stupid_Guy is a troll who used to write innane answers in the discussion board of http://www.tcscanadainc.com .
Jun 28th 2003, 11:20 am
#44
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Hi sadeq,
You heard of Sufism?
regards
You heard of Sufism?
regards
Jun 28th 2003, 2:55 pm
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Re: DIMIA requests IELT for my wife
[email protected] (Sadeq El Maazouzi) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Mike,
>
> I have missed this one :-)
> To be honest, I have no idea which name God has and I don't care
> whether her name is God, Buda, Allah, Jesus or even Ashcroft. The only
> thing I believe on is that there is someting very strong controlling
> all this universe (NOT just our Glob:-). If it is Ashcroft, OK fine
> with me.
John Ashcroft controlling the universe? You just scared the living
daylights out of me. I shall now take strong drink and curl up in a corner
in fetal position, trying to get that notion out of my head...
Mike
news:[email protected]:
> Mike,
>
> I have missed this one :-)
> To be honest, I have no idea which name God has and I don't care
> whether her name is God, Buda, Allah, Jesus or even Ashcroft. The only
> thing I believe on is that there is someting very strong controlling
> all this universe (NOT just our Glob:-). If it is Ashcroft, OK fine
> with me.
John Ashcroft controlling the universe? You just scared the living
daylights out of me. I shall now take strong drink and curl up in a corner
in fetal position, trying to get that notion out of my head...
Mike