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Old Feb 25th 2009 | 10:55 am
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This was brought to our attention in a reply to someone using the online feedback system to make sure that the ASPC knew their file was on the CSL:

"The CSL occupations we need notification on are accountants with IELTS proficient and IT specialists on the MODL, all others we can extract from our record system automaticallly. There is no need to advise us on Fitters but thanks anyway."

Hopefully those whose occupations are clearly in the CSL will refrain from spamming the ASPC about progress. And obviously a system which doesn't record MODL status for IT professionals needs some sort of an upgrade urgently.

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Old Feb 25th 2009 | 12:57 pm
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Do people who already have a case officer still need to contact them to let them know about the CSL, or is it just people who aren't yet assigned?
 
Old Feb 25th 2009 | 1:01 pm
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You know, it's only my opinion, but since the advent of being able to check the progress of online applications a lot more applicants are less and less patient. When we applied in early 2006 it was paper-based only. It was expected that a case officer would be assigned to low-risk MODL applicants in roughly 6 months and a low risk MODL decision would be made in approximately 9 months on average. High risk applicants could realistically add anywhere from 3-6 months to those times. That's just the way it was and people accepted it.

Now, since the online checking has come into effect it seems that people are expecting case officer assignments within a very short time and visa decisions immediately after the CO assignment. While it may be partially DIAC's poor choice of wording in the online system, i.e. "required" for medical and x-ray immediately after submitting application or "finalised" when medical results reach ASPC from HOC, I feel it is the applicant's impatience that is the real problem.

I tried working for a migration agent and found it very frustrating work. I can only imagine how difficult and frustrating it must be working as a case officer at ASPC.
 
Old Feb 25th 2009 | 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
You know, it's only my opinion, but since the advent of being able to check the progress of online applications a lot more applicants are less and less patient. When we applied in early 2006 it was paper-based only. It was expected that a case officer would be assigned to low-risk MODL applicants in roughly 6 months and a low risk MODL decision would be made in approximately 9 months on average. High risk applicants could realistically add anywhere from 3-6 months to those times. That's just the way it was and people accepted it.

Now, since the online checking has come into effect it seems that people are expecting case officer assignments within a very short time and visa decisions immediately after the CO assignment. While it may be partially DIAC's poor choice of wording in the online system, i.e. "required" for medical and x-ray immediately after submitting application or "finalised" when medical results reach ASPC from HOC, I feel it is the applicant's impatience that is the real problem.

I tried working for a migration agent and found it very frustrating work. I can only imagine how difficult and frustrating it must be working as a case officer at ASPC.
I agree. SInce the on-line application system started, and people became able to email ASPC at the drop of a hat, everyone expects instant answers, instant updates and faster processing.
They seem incapable of realising that all these extra emails and phone calls have to be dealt with, and there aren't an extra staff to do that. Logic should tell people that by interrupting your CO every two days wanting an update you are slowing up the processing!

BE is getting nearly as bad - people bumping immigration threads after a couple of hours - or at the extreme (as seen recently) three times in 15 minutes - demanding answers from other posters to often obscure questions.

I think all visa applications should receive an automated response headed "PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE!"
 
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Originally Posted by paultaking
Do people who already have a case officer still need to contact them to let them know about the CSL, or is it just people who aren't yet assigned?
Originally Posted by George Lombard

" The CSL occupations we need notification on are accountants with IELTS proficient and IT specialists on the MODL, all others we can extract from our record system automaticallly. There is no need to advise us on Fitters but thanks anyway."

Hopefully those whose occupations are clearly in the CSL will refrain from spamming the ASPC about progress.
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Old Feb 25th 2009 | 9:18 pm
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Thanks for the reply Pollyana. I'm applying for a 175 visa (occupation in IT with MODL) and got assigned a CO at the end of November last year.

I'm still confused as to whether I need to contact them or not - according to the CSL FAQ on the DIAC website, I don't need to do anything, yet the information that George supplied above seems to contradict this.

I completely agree with your comments about being patient - that's why I want to avoid e-mailing them unless it's really necessary.
 
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Hi Pollyana,
it's partly due to the world we live in. From writing a cheque and the funds taking days to reach the other account, we now have instant transfers and an e-mail/SMS notification to the bb/mobile phone to boot.
I guess, the new generation has taken such things for granted and expects the same type of service from DIAC. If only they remember that there are few things that perhaps won't ever change. Like the way we commute.. there hasn't been much progress made in nearly a century and we may not see any for another century. Certain things are meant to take some time for valid reasons. immigration is one such.
 
Old Feb 25th 2009 | 11:40 pm
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Originally Posted by George Lombard
This was brought to our attention in a reply to someone using the online feedback system to make sure that the ASPC knew their file was on the CSL:

"The CSL occupations we need notification on are accountants with IELTS proficient and IT specialists on the MODL, all others we can extract from our record system automaticallly. There is no need to advise us on Fitters but thanks anyway."

Hopefully those whose occupations are clearly in the CSL will refrain from spamming the ASPC about progress. And obviously a system which doesn't record MODL status for IT professionals needs some sort of an upgrade urgently.

Cheers,

George Lombard
What kind of notification does DIAC need from IT professionals and how can this be done?

Pls advise.
 
Old Feb 25th 2009 | 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by ddb
What kind of notification does DIAC need from IT professionals and how can this be done?

Pls advise.
Are you not aware of this --> mentioned by the ASPC sometimes back !!!

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PROFESSIONALS

If you have a skills assessment from the Australian Computing Society (ACS)
showing a computer specialisation (as listed on the MODL) you are entitled
to priority processing under the CSL. If you have provided a skills
assessment showing you meet this criterion please advise the department at
http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/forms/gsm/post.htm . This will ensure that
your application is allocated once your lodgement date has been reached.
 
Old Feb 26th 2009 | 12:00 am
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@Paultaking: As your application is currently being processed it makes *NO* sense at all to flag it for CSL and hope for priority processing. The .. reaction from Pollyanna is read by me as asking something too obvious.

@ddb: The flagging of CSL applications is ONLY required for Computing Professionals WITH an MODL, and for Accountants that have IELTS 7+. Currently ASPC is apparently flooded by emails from CSL applicants that are NOT in these 2 groups, hence the title of this post: CSLers spamming ASPC.
 
Old Feb 26th 2009 | 12:10 am
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Originally Posted by eurosyl
@Paultaking: As your application is currently being processed it makes *NO* sense at all to flag it for CSL and hope for priority processing. The .. reaction from Pollyanna is read by me as asking something too obvious.

@ddb: The flagging of CSL applications is ONLY required for Computing Professionals WITH an MODL, and for Accountants that have IELTS 7+. Currently ASPC is apparently flooded by emails from CSL applicants that are NOT in these 2 groups, hence the title of this post: CSLers spamming ASPC.
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hai eurosyl, Do you have any idea why ASPC remove this stuff

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APPLICANTS WITH THE NOMINATED OCCUPATION OF ACCOUNTANT (2211-11)

Applicants who have achieved a score of a least IELTS 7 in all of the four
competencies, and/or have completed The Professional Year V Skilled
Migration Internship Program Accounting (SMIPA) are eligible for priority
processing under the CSL. If you have provided evidence that you meet one
of these criteria please advise the department at
http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/forms/gsm/post.htm . This will ensure that
your application is allocated once your lodgement date has been reached.

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PROFESSIONALS

If you have a skills assessment from the Australian Computing Society (ACS)
showing a computer specialisation (as listed on the MODL) you are entitled
to priority processing under the CSL. If you have provided a skills
assessment showing you meet this criterion please advise the department at
http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/forms/gsm/post.htm . This will ensure that
your application is allocated once your lodgement date has been reached.

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from their latest updates !!!..Whether they are through to their requirement or something else...!!!

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Old Feb 26th 2009 | 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by ROOMI786
Are you not aware of this --> mentioned by the ASPC sometimes back !!!

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PROFESSIONALS

If you have a skills assessment from the Australian Computing Society (ACS)
showing a computer specialisation (as listed on the MODL) you are entitled
to priority processing under the CSL. If you have provided a skills
assessment showing you meet this criterion please advise the department at
http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/forms/gsm/post.htm . This will ensure that
your application is allocated once your lodgement date has been reached.
Thanks.

Few days back I have received +ve assessment from ACS with my nominated occupation being on the MODL.
I was aware that CSL applicants get priority processing but was not aware that we have to advise the department about the same.

I was under the impression that since I will be uploading my ACS assessment letter and it states the ASCO code which is on the MODL list, it will automatically be considered by DIAC for CSL.

I haven't applied for the visa as yet. Waiting for my wife's and kids' passports to come. But it is beneficial to know this information.
Many thanks for bringing this up.
 
Old Feb 26th 2009 | 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
I agree. SInce the on-line application system started, and people became able to email ASPC at the drop of a hat, everyone expects instant answers, instant updates and faster processing.
They seem incapable of realising that all these extra emails and phone calls have to be dealt with, and there aren't an extra staff to do that. Logic should tell people that by interrupting your CO every two days wanting an update you are slowing up the processing!

BE is getting nearly as bad - people bumping immigration threads after a couple of hours - or at the extreme (as seen recently) three times in 15 minutes - demanding answers from other posters to often obscure questions.

I think all visa applications should receive an automated response headed "PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE!"
I think everyone is a bit sweeping, I, and am sure many others have neither contacted DIAC or checked the online progress thing since lodging. Some things just take time, simple as.

Chris.
 
Old Feb 26th 2009 | 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by George Lombard
This was brought to our attention in a reply to someone using the online feedback system to make sure that the ASPC knew their file was on the CSL:

"The CSL occupations we need notification on are accountants with IELTS proficient and IT specialists on the MODL, all others we can extract from our record system automaticallly. There is no need to advise us on Fitters but thanks anyway."

Hopefully those whose occupations are clearly in the CSL will refrain from spamming the ASPC about progress. And obviously a system which doesn't record MODL status for IT professionals needs some sort of an upgrade urgently.

Cheers,

George Lombard
Do we get any sort of Acknoledgement from DIAC that your name is added to CSL as i did email a few weeks back got this feed bck

"
Dear Sir/Madam, Thank you for your e-mail about your visa application under Australia’s General Skilled Migration program. At this stage your file has not been allocated to a case officer. From 1 January 2009, the new Ministerial Direction gives priority processing to applications strictly in the following order: 1. employer sponsorship; then 2. State or Territory Sponsorship; then 3. an occupation on the Critical Skill List (CSL); then 4. Business Skills; then 5. an occupation on the MODL; and then 6. All other applications The ASPC is currently in the process of identifying and allocating all State or Territory Sponsored applications. Once these are all completely allocated, only then will cases with occupations on the CSL commence allocation and not until after all CSL applications are allocated will we be able to look at the remaining application priorities. Any further updates to our new processing priorities will be posted on the DIAC website which we encourage you to review on a regular basis. Please see - http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener.../whats-new.htm Applications that do not fit in the priority list will still be processed and applications that are allocated to case officers and not in the priority list will continue to be processed. For information on current allocation dates of applications, please send a blank email to:[email protected] You will receive the information by auto reply. We update this information weekly. Once your application has been allocated to a case officer the check lists will be updated and you will receive further instructions if we require any additional documents to process your application. We appreciate your patience. For any further enquiries about the application you have lodged please refer to our website using the following link http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/visa...fessionals.htm
"


No acknoledgement that the CSL advice is taken in consideration. Im IT MODL
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--regards
Khan
 
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Originally Posted by adeelak
Do we get any sort of Acknoledgement from DIAC that your name is added to CSL as i did email a few weeks back got this feed bck

"
Dear Sir/Madam, Thank you for your e-mail about your visa application under Australia’s General Skilled Migration program. At this stage your file has not been allocated to a case officer. From 1 January 2009, the new Ministerial Direction gives priority processing to applications strictly in the following order: 1. employer sponsorship; then 2. State or Territory Sponsorship; then 3. an occupation on the Critical Skill List (CSL); then 4. Business Skills; then 5. an occupation on the MODL; and then 6. All other applications The ASPC is currently in the process of identifying and allocating all State or Territory Sponsored applications. Once these are all completely allocated, only then will cases with occupations on the CSL commence allocation and not until after all CSL applications are allocated will we be able to look at the remaining application priorities. Any further updates to our new processing priorities will be posted on the DIAC website which we encourage you to review on a regular basis. Please see - http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener.../whats-new.htm Applications that do not fit in the priority list will still be processed and applications that are allocated to case officers and not in the priority list will continue to be processed. For information on current allocation dates of applications, please send a blank email to:[email protected] You will receive the information by auto reply. We update this information weekly. Once your application has been allocated to a case officer the check lists will be updated and you will receive further instructions if we require any additional documents to process your application. We appreciate your patience. For any further enquiries about the application you have lodged please refer to our website using the following link http://www.immi.gov.au/contacts/visa...fessionals.htm
"


No acknoledgement that the CSL advice is taken in consideration. Im IT MODL
.

--regards
Khan

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Dear Khan,

In my case they have clearly mentioned that
"The information you provided has been attached to your visa application."


Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for your e-mail about your visa application under Australias
General Skilled Migration program.

At this stage your file has not been allocated to a case officer.

The information you provided has been attached to your visa application.


From 1 January 2009, the new Ministerial Direction gives priority
processing to applications strictly in the following order:

1. employer sponsorship; then
2. State or Territory Sponsorship; then
3. an occupation on the Critical Skill List (CSL); then
4. Business Skills; then
5. an occupation on the MODL; and then
6. All other applications

.........

Have you mentioned clearly in the enquiry form that you belongs to these category....
??
ALL THE BEST KHAN Sb.
 


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