Competent English (20 Points)

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Old Feb 14th 2005, 1:52 pm
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Dear Folks,

I am trying to claim 20points for English Language ability. Is the
followings documents sufficient enought to claim the full 20points?
- Degree from UK University
- GCE 'O' Level indicating a credit in English subject

Or do i still need to go for an IELTS test?

Appreciate any kind replies.

Cheers
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Old Feb 14th 2005, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Nit
Dear Folks,

I am trying to claim 20points for English Language ability. Is the
followings documents sufficient enought to claim the full 20points?
- Degree from UK University
- GCE 'O' Level indicating a credit in English subject

Or do i still need to go for an IELTS test?

Appreciate any kind replies.

Cheers
Nit
I would imagine a O level and degree from the UK will suffice
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I would have thought so too - take it you are not a British citizen then, in which case wouldnt have thought any proof necessary?
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Old Feb 14th 2005, 11:32 pm
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bridiej wrote:
    > > I would imagine a O level and degree from the UK will suffice
    > I would have thought so too - take it you are not a British citizen
    > then, in which case wouldnt have thought any proof necessary?
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Rite, I am from Singapore. Have dropped DIMIA an email on this, but no
news from them. Still pondering hard if I should go ahead for the IELTS
test.

Cheers
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Old Feb 15th 2005, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by Nit
bridiej wrote:
    > > I would imagine a O level and degree from the UK will suffice
    > I would have thought so too - take it you are not a British citizen
    > then, in which case wouldnt have thought any proof necessary?
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com


Rite, I am from Singapore. Have dropped DIMIA an email on this, but no
news from them. Still pondering hard if I should go ahead for the IELTS
test.

Cheers
Nit
If you provide an IELTS result (Academic or General) with minimum band score 6 you know you will get twenty points. A waiver of IELTS may not be given and you would then have to take test anyway and case will have been delayed.
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Default Re: Competent English (20 Points)

I have a MBA from an UK university and Iam not even the principal applicant.
Yet they asked me to take IELTS to prove I have vocational english capabilities.

I dont know what the 'O' level is all about.

Hope this helps.

In my opinion if you are not a native speaker, you should surely take IELTS if you 20 points.

Cheers,
RJ
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Old Feb 15th 2005, 7:25 am
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rarejunk_in wrote:
    > > If you provide an IELTS result (Academic or General) with minimum
band
    > > score 6 you know you will get twenty points. A waiver of IELTS may
    > > not be given and you would then have to take test anyway and case
will
    > > have been delayed.
    > I have a MBA from an UK university and Iam not even the principal
    > applicant.
    > Yet they asked me to take IELTS to prove I have vocational english
    > capabilities.
    > I dont know what the 'O' level is all about.
    > Hope this helps.
    > In my opinion if you are not a native speaker, you should surely take
    > IELTS if you 20 points.
    > Cheers,
    > RJ
    > --
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Thanks for so many constructive replies. To play safe, i would go for
the IELTS test.

Cheers
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Old Feb 15th 2005, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by rarejunk_in
I have a MBA from an UK university and Iam not even the principal applicant.
Yet they asked me to take IELTS to prove I have vocational english capabilities.

I dont know what the 'O' level is all about.

Hope this helps.

In my opinion if you are not a native speaker, you should surely take IELTS if you 20 points.

Cheers,
RJ
How hard is the IELTS?

Where I use to work, nurses had sat and passed the IELTS and their English was appalling.

Just curious.

My husband will have to sit it and was wondering how hard it is, his English is good.
 
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Originally Posted by Nit
Thanks for so many constructive replies. To play safe, i would go for
the IELTS test.

Cheers
Nit

Good luck!
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Old Feb 15th 2005, 8:50 am
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Default Re: Competent English (20 Points)

Originally Posted by bridiej
Good luck!
Here is the preparation guide and booklet on UK IELTS site:

http://www.ielts.org/candidates/testpreparation/

http://www.ielts.org/mediacentre/lat...TShbk_2005.pdf

It does not look the difficult to pass. At the end of the day you must be able to function and contribute in an English speaking country. I don’t think they require you to recite Shakespeare to order your electricity or pay your tax ;-)

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Hi Nit,

If you are not a native english speaker by birth then you have to appear in IELTS, no second thought for it.

Cheers
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Old Feb 16th 2005, 7:54 am
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chmushi wrote:
    > > Here is the preparation guide and booklet on UK IELTS site:
    > >
    > > http://www.ielts.org/candidates/testpreparation/
    > >
    > >
http://www.ielts.org/mediacentre/lat.../1649_IELTShb-
    > > k_2005.pdf
    > >
    > > It does not look the difficult to pass. At the end of the day you
must
    > > be able to function and contribute in an English speaking country.
I
    > > don't think they require you to recite Shakespeare to order your
    > > electricity or pay your tax ;-)
    > >
    > > Tops.
    > Hi Nit,
    > If you are not a native english speaker by birth then you have to
appear
    > in IELTS, no second thought for it.
    > Cheers
    > --
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Thanks folks, going to get an IELTS book after work to prepare for test.
 
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Default Re: Competent English (20 Points)

I did my primary and secondary schooling in Singapore too, did my 'O' levels and completed my undergraduate degree in australia. i wrote a letter to them indicating why i should be given points for competent english eventhough i am not a native speaker since i completed all my education in english. they never requested an IELTS from me and i got my visa granted last month. So i really dun think u need an IELTS if you did all your schooling in a place where english is the main language of instruction.
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Old Feb 17th 2005, 11:25 am
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Just gotten a reply from DIMIA.

" Please be advised to send in all documents relating to English
language ability and your assigned case officer will request further
evidence if required later in the processing of your application,
however to lodge a valid application you do not need to submit an IELTS
at time of lodgement."


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Old Feb 17th 2005, 11:44 am
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Folks,

Not too sure if CELPT can be substituted for IELTS. Have scored an
average "6/9" during my polytechnic days.

CELPT - Computerised English Language Proficiency Test. Test
procedures are developed by University of Oxford Delegacy of Local
Examinations England.


Anyway in my application to DIMIA, i will try explaining to DIMIA as
what Ahrkangel has done.

In the meanwhile, continue revising my proper English grammars just in
case I am still required to take IELTS.
 


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