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Tommy Gun Aug 29th 2005 6:44 am

Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
I'm fit enough, but a bit of a donut. Also, I've recieved a case number saying they've recieved my application,(my trade is on the MODL list) how long will it be before I have to take my medical, need to get on the treadmill big time,

karenjc Aug 29th 2005 7:00 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
I'm fit enough, but a bit of a donut. Also, I've recieved a case number saying they've recieved my application,(my trade is on the MODL list) how long will it be before I have to take my medical, need to get on the treadmill big time,

It seems that the main concern is if you have anything wrong then how much will it cost to put right. You do get weighed with your medical amongst other things. Don't know how long things are taking now as they have speeded up since we were at that stage. Good luck

JohnandMichelle Aug 29th 2005 7:05 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
I'm fit enough, but a bit of a donut. Also, I've recieved a case number saying they've recieved my application,(my trade is on the MODL list) how long will it be before I have to take my medical, need to get on the treadmill big time,

Check out RabC's threads - he's been through it all...!! And his info should help you a lot. MODL doesn't seem to make much difference these days. Meds requests were about 3 months a while ago, but now seem to have slowed down to about four months or more. Good luck! Michelle

lacey21 Aug 29th 2005 8:30 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
There is also another girl I know on here and I can't mention her name but she got through and was very over weight and had medical problems. She was lovely. She has her visas now and is happy as larry,
Yeah Rab threads are fantastic and he got it and kept me sane, The weight worry is my worst nightmare.
big fat hugs Lace x

Tommy Gun Aug 29th 2005 10:50 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by lacey21
There is also another girl I know on here and I can't mention her name but she got through and was very over weight and had medical problems. She was lovely. She has her visas now and is happy as larry,
Yeah Rab threads are fantastic and he got it and kept me sane, The weight worry is my worst nightmare.
big fat hugs Lace x

Cheers. How do I find RabC's threads?

lacey21 Aug 29th 2005 10:54 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
Just write rabc in the search and all his threads will come up
cheers Lace x

Tommy Gun Aug 29th 2005 10:57 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by lacey21
Just write rabc in the search and all his threads will come up
cheers Lace x

Thanks, hope they don't give me an IQ test.

lacey21 Aug 29th 2005 11:02 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
Christ is they give us both one we'll both be in the shit lol lol
lace x

CathnPaul Aug 29th 2005 8:19 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
I'm fit enough, but a bit of a donut. Also, I've recieved a case number saying they've recieved my application,(my trade is on the MODL list) how long will it be before I have to take my medical, need to get on the treadmill big time,

To prepare for the app I lost 4 stone and still have another 2 stone to lose. Only to speak to someone in DIMIA to find out that as I had no underlying medical condition that I didnt need to have lost all that weight!!

He actually said that they allow big rugby players through so I shouldnt have worried.Unless as I mentioned I had an underlying medical condition due to my weight.

But at least I am 4 stone lighter now x Try not to worry about it. I felt reassured when they told me that.

spalen Aug 29th 2005 9:23 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
They go by your Body Mass Index
I think it was like this , but if you search for BMI on here you'll find the table no doubt.
BMI < 35 is ok
BMI > 35 they look harder
BMI >40 the mark it a cat-b

The look harder and cat-b bits are purely and simply to look to see if you have underlying medical conditions caused by weight. Like, diabetes, heart issues, etc. If you have not got these, and have never presented with them then they will not look twice. Either of these two are also not a huge problem.

Cat-B means a referral to a Dr at this end in Aus where the Dr reviews the medical himself instead of just rubber stamping it - it adds about 2 weeks to your processing time (or used to) and this is the guy that will request further medical history information IF they think you've got a major problem. Cat-A still gets reviewed by a Dr but its a rubber stamp rather than an inspection of the forms.

There is a website where you can search for appeals for people failing visa's for medicals I had a look about 9mths ago all of the failures were to do with HIV or extremely serious life threatening illnesses.

This is all stuff I gleaned from researching this stuff last year when my BMI was well below those stated above, after 4 mths of Aussie Pies, Cold-Rock Ice Cream, $2 lager, I fear that I would not be so lucky again and need to get on the running machine ;-)

Lewis Lapthorn Aug 29th 2005 10:25 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
I'm fit enough, but a bit of a donut. Also, I've recieved a case number saying they've recieved my application,(my trade is on the MODL list) how long will it be before I have to take my medical, need to get on the treadmill big time,

Probably depends where you want to live Tommy. Perth seems full of tasty chicks joggin along the foreshore in tight lycra, whereas Brissie had lots of happy bloaters, eating Maccas and watching the rugby.

As for the IQ test, if you're like me and fail, we'll have to meet up for a beer when we're both settled in Hobart.

Good luck mate.

lacey21 Aug 30th 2005 2:17 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
Lewis,
I am all in for Brissy then lol lol
lace x

kevinbloomfield Aug 30th 2005 4:30 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
I'm fit enough, but a bit of a donut. Also, I've recieved a case number saying they've recieved my application,(my trade is on the MODL list) how long will it be before I have to take my medical, need to get on the treadmill big time,

If you are too fat to get through the doctors door then you may fail, I read somewhere that doctors don't like doing the medical exam in the car park

Hope this helps?

Rabc Aug 30th 2005 7:19 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
I'm fit enough, but a bit of a donut. Also, I've recieved a case number saying they've recieved my application,(my trade is on the MODL list) how long will it be before I have to take my medical, need to get on the treadmill big time,


Ah Ha! Another worried soul with a bit of a wobble! Worry not my friend all will be well. As others rightly say take a look at my "To fat for Oz?" threads. They will tell all :)

In a nutshell check out your BMI (body mass index). If it's under 40 and you have nothing else wrong then you will be fine. If it's over 40 and there is nothing wrong go to your GP and get weighed/bp taken, take some advice and go on a diet/excercise regime. (if only for your health!) Before your medicals go back to your GP and get your weight/bp done again and get him to write a letter confirming your weight is dropping, your BP is OK and you are free from serious health issues. Insist on this letter going with your medical forms.

Above all don't panic, if you are generally well you will be fine. Check out my rollercoaster ride! I did my meds with a BMI of 40.6, included the letter and there was nothing else wrong with me (although I was a cat B) and got the visa with the full 12 months entry.

I words from the wise though - start now! You never know when the request will come, the quicker you get your meds done the quicker your visa will follow.

Good luck, I am upto my eyeballs in shipping, flights and tons of other stuff at the moment so I cant spend as much time on here as I would like but if you need any support or advice, PM me.

Rob

lacey21 Aug 30th 2005 8:14 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
Rob,
your an inspiration
hugs
lAce

Tommy Gun Aug 30th 2005 9:54 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by kevinbloomfield
If you are too fat to get through the doctors door then you may fail, I read somewhere that doctors don't like doing the medical exam in the car park

Hope this helps?

Cheers, mate that's a great help, I was hoping to get the Doc to come round to McDonalds and do it for me there in my own environment.

kevinbloomfield Aug 30th 2005 10:17 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
Cheers, mate that's a great help, I was hoping to get the Doc to come round to McDonalds and do it for me there in my own environment.

Hey you pay them enough and I'm sure they will. A better solution would be to book a table at Pizza Hut, have the big family special with ice cream factory then have you med straight after. Should work a treat

Professional Princess Aug 30th 2005 11:17 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by kevinbloomfield
Hey you pay them enough and I'm sure they will. A better solution would be to book a table at Pizza Hut, have the big family special with ice cream factory then have you med straight after. Should work a treat


Im worried about my weight as well. Although if I had my chest reduced, Im sure I would be a stone lighter.

I do think though, if anyone feels they need to lose weight for their medical, they should aim to do it long term and for their health and not just for the medical.

But as you say Kevin, I might just book a table at Pizza hut first. :)

kevinbloomfield Aug 31st 2005 12:48 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
I was a bit worried about my weight as well (5'4 and 12 stone) but I was fine, I'm sure someone on here knows what you could possibly fail on (Body Mass Index I think), thing is, no one on this forum seems to have failed because of being a lard arse.

For emigrating to the USA allegedly it is the opposite, if you weigh less than 16 stone you can't even apply. No TRA or skills testing there, you get more points for the heavier you are (and the smaller your brain is). Apparently if you weigh 20 stone or more you can go straight to the USA without any form filling at all.

Is this true??

bridiej Aug 31st 2005 1:25 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by Tommy Gun
Cheers, mate that's a great help, I was hoping to get the Doc to come round to McDonalds and do it for me there in my own environment.


PMSL! :D

lacey21 Aug 31st 2005 3:02 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
PMSL very good,
just to round off the day, I have put on 8lbs in the last two weeks, I think Macdonnalds have something to do with it and no will power.
Hey but today, I'm back on the crappy slimmer soup, So happy I could S****
NOT!
lol
Lace

kevinbloomfield Aug 31st 2005 3:39 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by lacey21
PMSL very good,
just to round off the day, I have put on 8lbs in the last two weeks, I think Macdonnalds have something to do with it and no will power.
Hey but today, I'm back on the crappy slimmer soup, So happy I could S****
NOT!
lol
Lace

You should buy the Juice Master book and a Superjuicer (www.superjuicer.co.uk), far better than that crap they sell at Mc D's (have you seen Supersize Me?).
8lbs in 2 weeks is a result, how many months pregnant did you say you were??

lacey21 Aug 31st 2005 4:24 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
Oh your a wag (well I think that is how you spell it). I have had a major lapse. I have already lost 54lbs of pure muscle (I had my husband killed off) no really. I have been finding it difficult and now that the beginning of term is about to start everyone wants to do lunch Arrrrrrrr leave me alone please.

lol lol
Anyway about this juicer!!!!!
lace x

lacey21 Aug 31st 2005 4:27 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
Hey your link doesn't work boo hoo

:(

the Brady gang Aug 31st 2005 4:31 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
God I was so stressed when I did my meds cause I am over weight got high blood pressure and im asthmatic. not a good combination. I went on a diet showed my meds Dr the sheet from club, I got local chemist to check my blood pressure and log it and I got a diabetes test. Also got my own GP to write letter explaining all under control. we got through and I leave in November Yippppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp.....

Rabc Aug 31st 2005 4:40 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 

Originally Posted by kevinbloomfield
I was a bit worried about my weight as well (5'4 and 12 stone) but I was fine, I'm sure someone on here knows what you could possibly fail on (Body Mass Index I think), thing is, no one on this forum seems to have failed because of being a lard arse.

For emigrating to the USA allegedly it is the opposite, if you weigh less than 16 stone you can't even apply. No TRA or skills testing there, you get more points for the heavier you are (and the smaller your brain is). Apparently if you weigh 20 stone or more you can go straight to the USA without any form filling at all.

Is this true??


I've heard that as well. But you have to get past customs. I understand that unless you bring a substantial amount of food with you you might be seen to be a drain on the US food supply!

The only forms you need are to wrap your chocolate in! ;)

kevinbloomfield Aug 31st 2005 4:52 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
On a serious note, if you have a pint of juice in the morning (breakfast) made from carrots, apples and pineapple you will not be hungry until lunchtime. Then have a tin of mackerel or tuna for lunch then some rainbow trout for tea.

Give it a month or so and you will be as slim as kate moss

That's my serious comment for this year, now I will continue with all the mindless stuff!!

lacey21 Aug 31st 2005 10:52 am

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
No really Kev will I not shit through the eye of a needle though!?
I can't cope with that, I can tell you.

Well if it gets this weight off I'll try anything lol
hugs Lace

kevinbloomfield Aug 31st 2005 8:09 pm

Re: Can you fail your medical for being too fat?
 
Actually your shit will become firmer, have you not watched "You are what you eat"?
It will be less smelly and firmer

What a lovely subject to talk about just as I'm doing my breakfast :-))


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