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Aus work experience: 6 months part time work counted ? (skilled Independent)

Aus work experience: 6 months part time work counted ? (skilled Independent)

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Old Dec 1st 2002, 7:35 am
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Ranga Guruge
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Default Aus work experience: 6 months part time work counted ? (skilled Independent)

Hi,

DIMA web site says; (skilled independent)

----------------
BONUS POINTS
"you must have legally worked in Australia in any occupation on the
Skilled Occupations List for at least six months"
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I am on a student visa. If do a part-time job(20hrs a week) which is
on the
Skilled Occupation List" for 6 months, will I be eligble to receive
"Bonus Points" ?

Also, DIMA site says;
----------------
"You *may* receive points for any one of the following".
----------------

Does it mean, even those who fulfil conditions for 'Bonus Points' may
not
get Bonus Points ?

Thanks
Ranga
 
Old Dec 1st 2002, 8:51 am
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Jaj
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    >On 1 Dec 2002 00:35:56 -0800, [email protected] (Ranga Guruge) wrote:
    >Hi,
    >DIMA web site says; (skilled independent)
    >----------------
    >BONUS POINTS
    >"you must have legally worked in Australia in any occupation on the
    >Skilled Occupations List for at least six months"
    >----------------
    >I am on a student visa. If do a part-time job(20hrs a week) which is
    >on the
    >Skilled Occupation List" for 6 months, will I be eligble to receive
    >"Bonus Points" ?

Most student part time jobs are not in skilled occupations, to begin
with. What precisely are you planning to do?



    >Also, DIMA site says;
    >----------------
    >"You *may* receive points for any one of the following".
    >----------------
    >Does it mean, even those who fulfil conditions for 'Bonus Points' may
    >not
    >get Bonus Points ?
    >Thanks
    >Ranga

There are a number of other reasons why you might not be awarded bonus
points, including:

1. If the skill level for the job in question requires the equivalent
of an Australian bachelors (or other qualification) and you don't
already have that from previous study, you won't get points.

2. There's now a little trap in that work experience gained on a
bridging visa won't count.

As I've said before, work experience is probably the most common area
for applicants to run into problems with the rules.

Jeremy



This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
 
Old Dec 1st 2002, 12:38 pm
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Default Re: Aus work experience: 6 months part time work counted ? (skilled Independent)

I have been working for 3 years as Associate Lecturer in Australia ( ACS also classified me as Associate Lecturer). It is 20 hours per week job since my student visa allows me to work 20 hours per week.

I have finished my BSc in Computer Engineering 12 years ago and Master in Computer Science 4 years ago. My skill assesment for ACS is base on both of these degree. Now I am doing PhD in computer science,
I have submitted my application last week.

As far as I know, it counts. Since it is
- 20 hours/ week
- on student visa
- as Associate Lecturer which base on Bsc and MSc
- ACS also classified me as Associate Lecturer

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Tony




Originally posted by Jaj
    >On 1 Dec 2002 00:35:56 -0800, [email protected] (Ranga Guruge) wrote:
    >Hi,
    >DIMA web site says; (skilled independent)
    >----------------
    >BONUS POINTS
    >"you must have legally worked in Australia in any occupation on the
    >Skilled Occupations List for at least six months"
    >----------------
    >I am on a student visa. If do a part-time job(20hrs a week) which is
    >on the
    >Skilled Occupation List" for 6 months, will I be eligble to receive
    >"Bonus Points" ?

Most student part time jobs are not in skilled occupations, to begin
with. What precisely are you planning to do?



    >Also, DIMA site says;
    >----------------
    >"You *may* receive points for any one of the following".
    >----------------
    >Does it mean, even those who fulfil conditions for 'Bonus Points' may
    >not
    >get Bonus Points ?
    >Thanks
    >Ranga

There are a number of other reasons why you might not be awarded bonus
points, including:

1. If the skill level for the job in question requires the equivalent
of an Australian bachelors (or other qualification) and you don't
already have that from previous study, you won't get points.

2. There's now a little trap in that work experience gained on a
bridging visa won't count.

As I've said before, work experience is probably the most common area
for applicants to run into problems with the rules.

Jeremy



This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
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Old Dec 2nd 2002, 4:03 am
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Ranga Guruge
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Hi,
Hi Jeremy,

Thank you very much for your reply.

    > Most student part time jobs are not in skilled occupations, to begin
    > with. What precisely are you planning to do?

I hold a BSc in Computing(assessed suitable), and will be doing MSc in
Computing from Feb 2003 in Sydney. I am planing to do a part time IT job at
least for six months, in order to gain the relevant Australian experience
though I know that it is very hard to find IT work.

What is your opinion on this ?

I know that upon completion of the MSc - Dec 2003, I can apply as onshore
student, but I don't know whether rules will remain the same till then.

thanks
Ranga
 
Old Dec 2nd 2002, 10:08 am
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    >On 1 Dec 2002 21:03:27 -0800, [email protected] (Ranga Guruge) wrote:
    >Hi,
    >Hi Jeremy,
    >Thank you very much for your reply.
    >> Most student part time jobs are not in skilled occupations, to begin
    >> with. What precisely are you planning to do?
    >I hold a BSc in Computing(assessed suitable), and will be doing MSc in
    >Computing from Feb 2003 in Sydney. I am planing to do a part time IT job at
    >least for six months, in order to gain the relevant Australian experience
    >though I know that it is very hard to find IT work.
    >What is your opinion on this ?


Depends on whether the duties are at skilled level or not.
Have you thought about what happens if you can't find suitable work
(your chances of finding a suitable part time job are not good at
all), and how you plan to combine work and study at Masters level
(it's not easy).

    >I know that upon completion of the MSc - Dec 2003, I can apply as onshore
    >student, but I don't know whether rules will remain the same till then.

A few points:

1. Your existing ACS assessment will probably have expired so you'll
need to get a new one.

2. You cannot guarantee that the rules will allow you to apply. They
may well have changed. For example, they are thinking seriously about
increasing the amount of time you have to study in Australia from 1
year to 2. There may well be transitional arrangements for those who
are already studying in Australia, but then again there may not.

Jeremy

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