applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
Nov 20th 2002, 3:02 am
#1
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applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
i have sufficient points to apply for the independent skilled
migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
VIC state migration .
in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
anyway before the state nominate me.
basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
mike
migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
VIC state migration .
in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
anyway before the state nominate me.
basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
mike
Nov 20th 2002, 6:06 am
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
When you apply for Skilled Independent, fill out the Skill Matching
section and you get access to the regional schemes for free. Even if
you have more than the pass mark, you can't lose.
Separately, you should get in touch with the Victoria and SA state
governments - Vic in particular is happy to accept CVs directly, from
what I know.
Jeremy
>On 19 Nov 2002 20:02:53 -0800, [email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote:
>i have sufficient points to apply for the independent skilled
>migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
>to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
>VIC state migration .
>in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
>people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
>this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
>and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
>normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
>anyway before the state nominate me.
>basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
>applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
>i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
>but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
>mike
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
section and you get access to the regional schemes for free. Even if
you have more than the pass mark, you can't lose.
Separately, you should get in touch with the Victoria and SA state
governments - Vic in particular is happy to accept CVs directly, from
what I know.
Jeremy
>On 19 Nov 2002 20:02:53 -0800, [email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote:
>i have sufficient points to apply for the independent skilled
>migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
>to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
>VIC state migration .
>in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
>people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
>this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
>and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
>normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
>anyway before the state nominate me.
>basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
>applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
>i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
>but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
>mike
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Nov 20th 2002, 6:48 am
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
Originally posted by Jaj
When you apply for Skilled Independent, fill out the Skill Matching
section and you get access to the regional schemes for free. Even if
you have more than the pass mark, you can't lose.
Separately, you should get in touch with the Victoria and SA state
governments - Vic in particular is happy to accept CVs directly, from
what I know.
Jeremy
<snip>
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
When you apply for Skilled Independent, fill out the Skill Matching
section and you get access to the regional schemes for free. Even if
you have more than the pass mark, you can't lose.
Separately, you should get in touch with the Victoria and SA state
governments - Vic in particular is happy to accept CVs directly, from
what I know.
Jeremy
<snip>
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
I just got a generic mass email from Immigration South Australia, describing what SA offers to migrants to SA. So, I would think SA is pretty active in trying to get migrants to settle there.
Nice little disclaimer you got there
Peter
Nov 20th 2002, 12:25 pm
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
Any chance of seeing your generic mass email. Like to know what SA will offer me. Hopefully be there next year!
Cheers
Mash...
Cheers
Mash...
Originally posted by ptlabs
Jeremy,
I just got a generic mass email from Immigration South Australia, describing what SA offers to migrants to SA. So, I would think SA is pretty active in trying to get migrants to settle there.
Nice little disclaimer you got there
Peter
Jeremy,
I just got a generic mass email from Immigration South Australia, describing what SA offers to migrants to SA. So, I would think SA is pretty active in trying to get migrants to settle there.
Nice little disclaimer you got there
Peter
Nov 20th 2002, 2:29 pm
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
Dear Jeremy,
Do you have the contact address of victoria state govt in case if i
wish to get in touch regarding the above.
Thanks
Best regards,
Gokul
[email protected] (JAJ) wrote in message news:...
> When you apply for Skilled Independent, fill out the Skill Matching
> section and you get access to the regional schemes for free. Even if
> you have more than the pass mark, you can't lose.
>
> Separately, you should get in touch with the Victoria and SA state
> governments - Vic in particular is happy to accept CVs directly, from
> what I know.
>
> Jeremy
>
> >On 19 Nov 2002 20:02:53 -0800, [email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote:
> >i have sufficient points to apply for the independent skilled
> >migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
> >
> >to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
> >VIC state migration .
> >in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
> >people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
> >this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
> >and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
> >normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
> >anyway before the state nominate me.
> >
> >basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
> >applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
> >
> >i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
> >but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
> >
> >
> >mike
>
> This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Do you have the contact address of victoria state govt in case if i
wish to get in touch regarding the above.
Thanks
Best regards,
Gokul
[email protected] (JAJ) wrote in message news:...
> When you apply for Skilled Independent, fill out the Skill Matching
> section and you get access to the regional schemes for free. Even if
> you have more than the pass mark, you can't lose.
>
> Separately, you should get in touch with the Victoria and SA state
> governments - Vic in particular is happy to accept CVs directly, from
> what I know.
>
> Jeremy
>
> >On 19 Nov 2002 20:02:53 -0800, [email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote:
> >i have sufficient points to apply for the independent skilled
> >migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
> >
> >to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
> >VIC state migration .
> >in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
> >people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
> >this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
> >and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
> >normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
> >anyway before the state nominate me.
> >
> >basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
> >applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
> >
> >i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
> >but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
> >
> >
> >mike
>
> This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Nov 20th 2002, 6:26 pm
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
http://www.migration.vic.gov.au
Jeremy
>On 20 Nov 2002 07:29:20 -0800, [email protected] (gokul) wrote:
>Dear Jeremy,
>Do you have the contact address of victoria state govt in case if i
>wish to get in touch regarding the above.
>Thanks
>Best regards,
>Gokul
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Jeremy
>On 20 Nov 2002 07:29:20 -0800, [email protected] (gokul) wrote:
>Dear Jeremy,
>Do you have the contact address of victoria state govt in case if i
>wish to get in touch regarding the above.
>Thanks
>Best regards,
>Gokul
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Nov 20th 2002, 7:18 pm
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
do not foget about the restrictions that are put by these Nominatinf
States like you cant leave the State for atleast two years...though
you might get an airport transfer or a welcome drink in Adelaide (its
in SA) but....you must also think why a particular State wants
you...even when DIMIA does not consider you suitable for PR !!! If
DIMIA thinks you suitable, you should go for General Skilled
Independent rather the STNI.
Any thoughts?
Rajiv
States like you cant leave the State for atleast two years...though
you might get an airport transfer or a welcome drink in Adelaide (its
in SA) but....you must also think why a particular State wants
you...even when DIMIA does not consider you suitable for PR !!! If
DIMIA thinks you suitable, you should go for General Skilled
Independent rather the STNI.
Any thoughts?
Rajiv
Nov 23rd 2002, 11:46 pm
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
Since writing this i have seen the form...
on the old dima form you could tick Independent which included a State
Nomination programme but now on the new November form the state
nomination programme is in a seperate category so presumably you have
to wait for the nominaiton first because if you dont get the
nomination you will not also be considered under independent
skilled...
mike
[email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote in message news:...
> i have sufficient points to apply for the independent skilled
> migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
>
> to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
> VIC state migration .
> in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
> people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
> this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
> and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
> normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
> anyway before the state nominate me.
>
> basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
> applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
>
> i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
> but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
>
>
> mike
on the old dima form you could tick Independent which included a State
Nomination programme but now on the new November form the state
nomination programme is in a seperate category so presumably you have
to wait for the nominaiton first because if you dont get the
nomination you will not also be considered under independent
skilled...
mike
[email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote in message news:...
> i have sufficient points to apply for the independent skilled
> migration and have passed rpl assessment by acs.
>
> to speed my visa processing i am thinking of applying for either SA or
> VIC state migration .
> in the insytructions it mentions this is particulary suitable for
> people who only meet the pool, not pass mark. can i still apply for
> this ie. using the first section of the skilled migration booklet form
> and yet have the immigration people still consider my application as
> normal,if the state people don't nominate me - i want to get it in
> anyway before the state nominate me.
>
> basically i want to be considered for both....is this possible or does
> applying for state sponsored exclude you from a normal application...
>
> i get the impression that the dima process your application as normal
> but will issue a visa quicker if ther state gov give you the nod.
>
>
> mike
Nov 24th 2002, 12:26 am
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
The new form 47SK looks to be badly drafted and I'm not sure why it's
been done this way.
Legally you apply for a visa class, and get assessed against all the
subclasses.
So if you apply for class BN, you get assessed against both subclasses
136 and 137. Same applies if you apply for class BQ, you get
assessed for both subclasses 138 and 139.
The fact that the form design may suggest otherwise to some does not
alter the law.
Jeremy
>On 23 Nov 2002 16:46:56 -0800, [email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote:
>Since writing this i have seen the form...
>on the old dima form you could tick Independent which included a State
>Nomination programme but now on the new November form the state
>nomination programme is in a seperate category so presumably you have
>to wait for the nominaiton first because if you dont get the
>nomination you will not also be considered under independent
>skilled...
>mike
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
been done this way.
Legally you apply for a visa class, and get assessed against all the
subclasses.
So if you apply for class BN, you get assessed against both subclasses
136 and 137. Same applies if you apply for class BQ, you get
assessed for both subclasses 138 and 139.
The fact that the form design may suggest otherwise to some does not
alter the law.
Jeremy
>On 23 Nov 2002 16:46:56 -0800, [email protected] (Mike Rogers) wrote:
>Since writing this i have seen the form...
>on the old dima form you could tick Independent which included a State
>Nomination programme but now on the new November form the state
>nomination programme is in a seperate category so presumably you have
>to wait for the nominaiton first because if you dont get the
>nomination you will not also be considered under independent
>skilled...
>mike
This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction
Nov 24th 2002, 1:05 am
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Joined: May 2002
Location: NSW
Posts: 5,464
Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
Originally posted by mashiraz
Any chance of seeing your generic mass email. Like to know what SA will offer me. Hopefully be there next year!
Cheers
Mash...
Any chance of seeing your generic mass email. Like to know what SA will offer me. Hopefully be there next year!
Cheers
Mash...
It's really a generic email. Not an invitation for STNI or anything like that. They included a soft copy of the RSMS (Regional Skilled Migration Scheme) leaflet as well, which is actually available from their (Immi SA) website I believe. The one good thing from the email is that they (Immi SA) described some of their initial settlement services to me, which I though was a very nice service to publicize. If anything, those services may eventually sway my decision on where (which Oz state) I will settle in, since I have no relatives or family friends in Oz.
If you're really keen on getting a hold of the generic email, send me a private email via BE (I do not permit private messages from BE as I sometimes do not get prompted to read them!) and let me know your email address. I'll forward you my copy then. It's nothing personalized, so it's really something I won't mind sharing - just not plastered on the forum
Cheers,
Peter
Nov 24th 2002, 3:27 pm
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I am received application and instruction from VIC gov. I sent application and my CV to them by e-mail. I wonder if anyone did as I did. Did you send application via e-mail or by post?
Nov 28th 2002, 12:40 pm
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Re: applying for both State sponsored and independent skilled migration on the same form
Dear Vitcon,
Can u share e- mail address of State Victoria i also want to apply for STNL.
By the way I am Pankaj from India and applied PR in Oct, 2002 under Asco 2231-11
Plese let me know the whole STNL prossedure.
thanks.
pankaj.
vitcon wrote in message news:...
> I am received application and instruction from VIC gov. I sent
> application and my CV to them by e-mail. I wonder if anyone did as I
> did. Did you send application via e-mail or by post?
Can u share e- mail address of State Victoria i also want to apply for STNL.
By the way I am Pankaj from India and applied PR in Oct, 2002 under Asco 2231-11
Plese let me know the whole STNL prossedure.
thanks.
pankaj.
vitcon wrote in message news:...
> I am received application and instruction from VIC gov. I sent
> application and my CV to them by e-mail. I wonder if anyone did as I
> did. Did you send application via e-mail or by post?
