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Old May 2nd 2011, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by ramsah
Hi Guys,

I am facing very hard time with my visa application (skill : .NET technologies Specialist (ASCO 2231-79)), i have applied for visa on 23 July 2009, got mail from case officer on 8 APr 2011:

For you application to be assessed the skills assessment provided needs to
be for an occupation listed on the current Skilled Occupation Lists (SOL).
The occupation on the skills assessment you provided with your application
(NET’ technologies Specialist) is not on the current SOL.

If you use the same documents provided at the time the original skills
assessment was sought, the ACS will give you the opportunity to obtain
another skills assessment. If you wish to obtain a skills assessment for
the occupation nominated on your application or an occupation listed on the
current SOL you will need to contact the ACS.

To continue with the assessment of your application you need to provide a
written explanation as to the current skills assessment on file not being
for your nominated occupation and a skills assessment for an occupation
list on the SOL.


I have replied to this email and asked him is it ok to get the new skill assessment for "Developer Programmer (ANZSCO Code: 261312)". On this he replied that:

The occupation you are seeking a new skills assessment for(Developer
Programmer – ANZSCO Code: 261312) is on the current SOL and the assessment
can continue once that skills assessment is received (providng the new
assessment is based on the same evidence provided for the original skills
assessment).

However, please note that the occupation is not on the MODL (Occupation in
Demand) so MODL points cannot be claimed.

On your application you have claimed the 15 MODL points. As my prelimnary
assessment is that you will not reach the 120 points required, I would
suggest you seek sponsorship (state or family) to have the application
assessed as a VE 176 which requires 100 points.

Please forward the skills assessment to me when you receive it and if you
obtain sponsorship send me the details and I will advise you of the
requirements for the sponsorship you have obtained.


This is really insane, after two years of waiting they are now saying that i am not eligible. They should process my application according to the old rules.

Please advice me what should i do, should i ask my case officer that why my application is not processed under old rules??

thanks
Hi Ramash,

As you wrote:

Application Lodge : 23 July 2009
Got mail from case officer on : 8 APr 2011

"8 APr 2011" is the date when case officer assigned to you or you having CO before this date?

Regards,
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

The only sound advice I can see on thid thread is that in Dorothy's first post.

OP your nominated occupation is not on the SOL, therefore your application could sit around for years because of the processing priority. Eventually maybe it would be capped and ceased, after another two years of waiting.

I think the CO is offering you a way out ans some good advice. He is offering you the opportunity to get a different skills assessment and nomination for an occupation that is on the SOL. This is better than your application going nowhere in a queue isn't it?

The occupation you have suggested you switch to, didn't have MODL points, therefore you cannot claim the points which were available last year under an old code, because you are not applying under that code.

Argue with your CO if you want. Refuse to do a new skills assessment or look for state / family sponsorship if you want, but It will just mean the CO will move on to process other applications and yours goes to the bottom of the heap. I actually am pleasantly surprised at how much the CO is trying to help you get your visa.
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

DIAC is a govt organization where they have standard procedures and bound to the legal system. If the applicant misunderstood the CO reply or CO might be wrong, there would be another chance for both of them. I would advise to reply the CO with proper references in their website rather discussing here.

Every CO has the responsibility to answer for their superordinate. They can't just put the application on the bottom of the queue. Just mailing your CO to make it clear your point does not make any harm to your application.
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Originally Posted by slimneo
HI Dorothy,
As a senior member in this forum, we are expecting more mature answers from you. Wrong answers can mislead people.

Please don't get offended.

Thanks
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What wrong answers have I given? Could you please post a link to them?
Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
The only sound advice I can see on thid thread is that in Dorothy's first post.

OP your nominated occupation is not on the SOL, therefore your application could sit around for years because of the processing priority. Eventually maybe it would be capped and ceased, after another two years of waiting.

I think the CO is offering you a way out ans some good advice. He is offering you the opportunity to get a different skills assessment and nomination for an occupation that is on the SOL. This is better than your application going nowhere in a queue isn't it?

The occupation you have suggested you switch to, didn't have MODL points, therefore you cannot claim the points which were available last year under an old code, because you are not applying under that code.

Argue with your CO if you want. Refuse to do a new skills assessment or look for state / family sponsorship if you want, but It will just mean the CO will move on to process other applications and yours goes to the bottom of the heap. I actually am pleasantly surprised at how much the CO is trying to help you get your visa.
I agree 100% with this. It looks like the CO is trying to help but if the OP wants to argue with those of us who have been around here for a while and his case officer then who are we to disagree.

On that note I will unsubscribe from this thread and put more than one poster here on ignore.
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

Originally Posted by diana_justin
then how can one say an application is lodged? the very definition of lodged means it is locked in place. for example your age, which is at the time of application. definitely your age would progress..

Anyway it does not say anywhere on the website that applicant has to meet the criteria at the time it is being assessed. Only at the time of making the application.

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/sol/

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...occupation.htm
Funnily enough, I always though "locked" meant "locked"

So, you are incorrect with your definition. Just in case you have any doubt:

1 [with object] present (a complaint, appeal, claim, etc.) formally to the proper authorities:
he has 28 days in which to lodge an appeal
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/vi..._gb0478120.009

The application was lodged when he put his application in.
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

Originally Posted by vxm665
DIAC is a govt organization where they have standard procedures and bound to the legal system. If the applicant misunderstood the CO reply or CO might be wrong, there would be another chance for both of them. I would advise to reply the CO with proper references in their website rather discussing here.

Every CO has the responsibility to answer for their superordinate. They can't just put the application on the bottom of the queue. Just mailing your CO to make it clear your point does not make any harm to your application.
And why does anyone think the CO might be wrong?

If you are referring to MODL points again, then it makes absolute perfect sense. They are not being given because the nominated occupation, the new one not the original one, did not attract MODL points.

No emailing the CO will not of course harm the application, but not getting the new skills assessment and not getting the sponsorship will.
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

I was a July 2009 applicant (Java Specialist). My agent advised my to get me skills reviewed again from ACS so that my application come under new schedule. http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...ent-review.pdf

It looks like the OP's CO is directly advising him to proceed with the reassessment which I believe is a good thing and according to the rules.

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by ramsah
Hi Guys,

I am facing very hard time with my visa application (skill : .NET technologies Specialist (ASCO 2231-79)), i have applied for visa on 23 July 2009, got mail from case officer on 8 APr 2011:

For you application to be assessed the skills assessment provided needs to
be for an occupation listed on the current Skilled Occupation Lists (SOL).
The occupation on the skills assessment you provided with your application
(NET’ technologies Specialist) is not on the current SOL.

If you use the same documents provided at the time the original skills
assessment was sought, the ACS will give you the opportunity to obtain
another skills assessment. If you wish to obtain a skills assessment for
the occupation nominated on your application or an occupation listed on the
current SOL you will need to contact the ACS.

To continue with the assessment of your application you need to provide a
written explanation as to the current skills assessment on file not being
for your nominated occupation and a skills assessment for an occupation
list on the SOL.


I have replied to this email and asked him is it ok to get the new skill assessment for "Developer Programmer (ANZSCO Code: 261312)". On this he replied that:

The occupation you are seeking a new skills assessment for(Developer
Programmer – ANZSCO Code: 261312) is on the current SOL and the assessment
can continue once that skills assessment is received (providng the new
assessment is based on the same evidence provided for the original skills
assessment).

However, please note that the occupation is not on the MODL (Occupation in
Demand) so MODL points cannot be claimed.

On your application you have claimed the 15 MODL points. As my prelimnary
assessment is that you will not reach the 120 points required, I would
suggest you seek sponsorship (state or family) to have the application
assessed as a VE 176 which requires 100 points.

Please forward the skills assessment to me when you receive it and if you
obtain sponsorship send me the details and I will advise you of the
requirements for the sponsorship you have obtained.


This is really insane, after two years of waiting they are now saying that i am not eligible. They should process my application according to the old rules.

Please advice me what should i do, should i ask my case officer that why my application is not processed under old rules??

thanks
Hello Ramsah,

Kindly confirm whether the mail you got from case officer on 8 APr 2011 was in response to any of your previous emails to your CO? or whether this mail was sent by your CO without any input from your end? coz, this seems to be sine real issue with all the older apps then ...

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Old May 3rd 2011, 4:43 am
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

Originally Posted by ramsah
Hi Guys,

I am facing very hard time with my visa application (skill : .NET technologies Specialist (ASCO 2231-79)), i have applied for visa on 23 July 2009, got mail from case officer on 8 APr 2011:

For you application to be assessed the skills assessment provided needs to
be for an occupation listed on the current Skilled Occupation Lists (SOL).
The occupation on the skills assessment you provided with your application
(NET’ technologies Specialist) is not on the current SOL.

If you use the same documents provided at the time the original skills
assessment was sought, the ACS will give you the opportunity to obtain
another skills assessment. If you wish to obtain a skills assessment for
the occupation nominated on your application or an occupation listed on the
current SOL you will need to contact the ACS.

To continue with the assessment of your application you need to provide a
written explanation as to the current skills assessment on file not being
for your nominated occupation and a skills assessment for an occupation
list on the SOL.


I have replied to this email and asked him is it ok to get the new skill assessment for "Developer Programmer (ANZSCO Code: 261312)". On this he replied that:

The occupation you are seeking a new skills assessment for(Developer
Programmer – ANZSCO Code: 261312) is on the current SOL and the assessment
can continue once that skills assessment is received (providng the new
assessment is based on the same evidence provided for the original skills
assessment).

However, please note that the occupation is not on the MODL (Occupation in
Demand) so MODL points cannot be claimed.

On your application you have claimed the 15 MODL points. As my prelimnary
assessment is that you will not reach the 120 points required, I would
suggest you seek sponsorship (state or family) to have the application
assessed as a VE 176 which requires 100 points.

Please forward the skills assessment to me when you receive it and if you
obtain sponsorship send me the details and I will advise you of the
requirements for the sponsorship you have obtained.


This is really insane, after two years of waiting they are now saying that i am not eligible. They should process my application according to the old rules.

Please advice me what should i do, should i ask my case officer that why my application is not processed under old rules??

thanks
Mr. Ramsah,
I fear you're igniting a new firy discussion by sharing your correspondence with DIAC above. But before I comment on it, I'd like to ask you a couple of questions to get a clearer picture. So let me start with the queries then:
  1. When did you get case officer assign?
  2. If it is in April, 2011 did you ever queried DIAC asking your case status after lodgement (since most of June/July, 09 applicants with CSL, MODL were assigned case officers before the end of 2009)?

It would be very nice if you share the complete details of your case so that members should be in a good position to give you a valid advice.

Regards
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

Originally Posted by au_immig
Mr. Ramsah,
I fear you're igniting a new firy discussion by sharing your correspondence with DIAC above. But before I comment on it, I'd like to ask you a couple of questions to get a clearer picture. So let me start with the queries then:
  1. When did you get case officer assign?
  2. If it is in April, 2011 did you ever queried DIAC asking your case status after lodgement (since most of June/July, 09 applicants with CSL, MODL were assigned case officers before the end of 2009)?

It would be very nice if you share the complete details of your case so that members should be in a good position to give you a valid advice.

Regards
m thinking the same, he applied in 2009 with MODL and CSL priority then how is it possible he got CO in 2011. unique case perhaps.
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Originally Posted by shafaqat309
m thinking the same, he applied in 2009 with MODL and CSL priority then how is it possible he got CO in 2011. unique case perhaps.
The same I was asking him above:

"
Application Lodge : 23 July 2009
Got mail from case officer on : 8 APr 2011

"8 APr 2011" is the date when case officer assigned to you or you having CO before this date?
"

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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

Hi Ramsah,

What is the update in your case? Have you informed your CO and what is his/her reply?

Regards.

Originally Posted by ramsah
Thanks guys i have found a link on their website (http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...gsmchanges.pdf)

IN this it is clearly mentioned that MODL and SOL changes will not apply to pending GSM Visa applications, they will be processed according to the old rules. Now i can quote the same in my reply to CO.
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Default Re: Applied July 2009 - 175(.net tech) - CO assigned - Please help

Hello Ramash,
I also applied in Dec 2009 under the same code 2231-79(.net specialist) and granted visa (see signature).
Your nominated occupation was under MODL and CSL both.
Your application falls under the old rules. Not under the current rules.
Please ask your CO for further clarification and wish you all the best.
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