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Safin Aug 4th 2008 4:09 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 
Arghhh, :curse: they've done it to us again! Our employer originally agreed to ENS and then 6 weeks down the line changed their minds not wanting a 3 year commitment.

Now we've been going down the RSMS route and they've decided they don't want to do the contract as being asked for by the agent. The agent says it must be a permanent job with 2 years min and have the relevant holiday and sick pay. We understood and told the company that we could be on casual contract ie no sick or holiday pay but higher rates so long as it was full time and 2 yrs or more.

Kinda like to be sure who's right? Been up half the night raging and researching!

Now employer wants to change the terms and make us permanent not contract. It means lots less money and no more security in reality, and less flexibility and we wanted to avoid it.

And I bet we have to pay the agent for what they've done even if we pull out !!! Not that our other options are great. (SIR or hope for another 457 til Nov for more points then 175 JUST before 45th birthday)

Safin

janjanxx Aug 6th 2008 8:56 am

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 

Originally Posted by Safin (Post 6644665)
Arghhh, :curse: they've done it to us again! Our employer originally agreed to ENS and then 6 weeks down the line changed their minds not wanting a 3 year commitment.

Now we've been going down the RSMS route and they've decided they don't want to do the contract as being asked for by the agent. The agent says it must be a permanent job with 2 years min and have the relevant holiday and sick pay. We understood and told the company that we could be on casual contract ie no sick or holiday pay but higher rates so long as it was full time and 2 yrs or more.

Kinda like to be sure who's right? Been up half the night raging and researching!

Now employer wants to change the terms and make us permanent not contract. It means lots less money and no more security in reality, and less flexibility and we wanted to avoid it.

And I bet we have to pay the agent for what they've done even if we pull out !!! Not that our other options are great. (SIR or hope for another 457 til Nov for more points then 175 JUST before 45th birthday)

Safin

Hmmm Saf,

You not having a good time are you??

pumpkin blossom Aug 6th 2008 9:12 am

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I was under the impression it had to be an actual contract, with the holidays, sick etc rather than casual. It is very hard to work out what is true and what isn't isn't it?

janjanxx Aug 6th 2008 9:14 am

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 

Originally Posted by pumpkin blossom (Post 6650662)
I was under the impression it had to be an actual contract, with the holidays, sick etc rather than casual. It is very hard to work out what is true and what isn't isn't it?

I also think it is permanent for two years... sick and holiday (and superremuneration)

Safin Aug 6th 2008 12:17 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 
Been doing lots of research and talked with co agent. Theres nothing that actually says it must be permanent in immi website, booklets etc and apparently not in legislation either. That's just the way they have applied it to avoid the fruit pickers and that sort of casual. We are trying to make the case that as it's full time and as its for 2 years and as we are complying with legislation and workplace laws (albeit for casuals as we get a guareenteed loading in lieu of sick and annual leave) we are meeting the criteria...watch this space......

janjanxx Aug 6th 2008 12:19 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 

Originally Posted by Safin (Post 6651100)
Been doing lots of research and talked with co agent. Theres nothing that actually says it must be permanent in immi website, booklets etc and apparently not in legislation either. That's just the way they have applied it to avoid the fruit pickers and that sort of casual. We are trying to make the case that as it's full time and as its for 2 years and as we are complying with legislation and workplace laws (albeit for casuals as we get a guareenteed loading in lieu of sick and annual leave) we are meeting the criteria...watch this space......

Correct - Full time for 2 years ...
Good luck and let us know how you go !! What area are you moving to?

Safin Aug 6th 2008 12:19 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 

Originally Posted by pumpkin blossom (Post 6650662)
I was under the impression it had to be an actual contract, with the holidays, sick etc rather than casual. It is very hard to work out what is true and what isn't isn't it?

It is an actual contract and in some industries pretty common, becoming more so

Also its the same as we came in on the 457 and that has the same criteria stated ie in accordance with workplace legislation......

Safin Aug 6th 2008 12:20 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 
We are already in hervey bay QLD on a 457. That expires end of oct as it was only for 1 yr

janjanxx Aug 6th 2008 12:22 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 

Originally Posted by Safin (Post 6651116)
We are already in hervey bay QLD on a 457. That expires end of oct as it was only for 1 yr

Good on you - so you'll be doing RSMS 857 (on shore) shouldn't take tooo long either.... let us know !!

Safin Aug 6th 2008 12:38 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 
we've yet to do certification which is 2 weeks then lodge at Parramatta. Agent says they told him 3-6 months. Hopefully quicker end of scale as submitted complete with meds and police certs when onshore.

Who know when (or if ) we'll get to submitting anyhting at this rate though :confused::(

But on the bright side at least we waiting it out here though:shades_smile::thumbup:

janjanxx Aug 6th 2008 12:47 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 

Originally Posted by Safin (Post 6651177)
we've yet to do certification which is 2 weeks then lodge at Parramatta. Agent says they told him 3-6 months. Hopefully quicker end of scale as submitted complete with meds and police certs when onshore.

Who know when (or if ) we'll get to submitting anyhting at this rate though :confused::(

But on the bright side at least we waiting it out here though:shades_smile::thumbup:

Absolutely!! Wish we were there !!

Safin Aug 6th 2008 12:56 pm

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 
It like a reasonably summers day here most days (21 degrees) and its the middle of winter! Though nights are colder. Had to wear a jumper a few times:thumbdown: but laughed at locals saying it's freezing when it dipped briefly to about 17 in the day

Where are you heading?

oldandbold Aug 7th 2008 7:35 am

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Visa approved today!
Paper based may application - 119 RSMS

janjanxx Aug 7th 2008 7:39 am

Re: Anyone got RSMS Visa
 

Originally Posted by oldandbold (Post 6654289)
Visa approved today!
Paper based may application - 119 RSMS

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOO !! GO OLD !! THAT IS EXCELLENT !! I KNEW YOU WOULD BE NEXT !!!

I VOTE DARWIN !!! YAHOOO

CONGRATS !! BLADY AWESOME !!

pumpkin blossom Aug 7th 2008 7:40 am

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Congrats :thumbsup:, how long did that take you?


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