Anybody here return from the tech bust in the US?
Nov 20th 2002, 2:36 pm
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Anybody here return from the tech bust in the US?
Hi, I lived 5 good years in the US during the tech boom and I still
have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
beginning to become a pain in the arse.
Given my experience in Australia (about 16 years living there) I
believe it offers the best standard of living of all the places I'm
elligble to go. Currently USA, Australia, UK/Europe.
If you returned to Australia after the tech bust in the US why did you
choose to do so?
The job search in the US is very difficult and chews up significantly
more funds than say Australia but obviously is a good role was found
the savings would go a lot further in the future.
have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
beginning to become a pain in the arse.
Given my experience in Australia (about 16 years living there) I
believe it offers the best standard of living of all the places I'm
elligble to go. Currently USA, Australia, UK/Europe.
If you returned to Australia after the tech bust in the US why did you
choose to do so?
The job search in the US is very difficult and chews up significantly
more funds than say Australia but obviously is a good role was found
the savings would go a lot further in the future.
Nov 20th 2002, 4:06 pm
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Re: Anybody here return from the tech bust in the US?
On 20 Nov 2002 07:36:31 -0800, [email protected] (Robert Nicholson)
wrote:
>Hi, I lived 5 good years in the US during the tech boom and I still
>have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
>happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
>as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
>I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
>beginning to become a pain in the arse.
As a greencard holder, I think the 'conditions' placed on our
residency are fair.
Why don't you do your citizenship?
Cath
wrote:
>Hi, I lived 5 good years in the US during the tech boom and I still
>have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
>happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
>as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
>I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
>beginning to become a pain in the arse.
As a greencard holder, I think the 'conditions' placed on our
residency are fair.
Why don't you do your citizenship?
Cath
Nov 21st 2002, 5:32 am
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Re: Anybody here return from the tech bust in the US?
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:06:44 GMT, [email protected]
(Cath) wrote:
>On 20 Nov 2002 07:36:31 -0800, [email protected] (Robert Nicholson)
>wrote:
>>Hi, I lived 5 good years in the US during the tech boom and I still
>>have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
>>happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
>>as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
>>I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
>>beginning to become a pain in the arse.
>As a greencard holder, I think the 'conditions' placed on our
>residency are fair.
>Why don't you do your citizenship?
>Cath
Possibly he doesn't do it because, like a lot of people, he doesn't
regard the US as "the promised land". One of my friends in IT here
recently spent some time working in the US. His summation, "A nice
place to live but I wouldn't want to raise chidren there!".
I guess US citizenship isn't everyone's dream!
Tom
(Cath) wrote:
>On 20 Nov 2002 07:36:31 -0800, [email protected] (Robert Nicholson)
>wrote:
>>Hi, I lived 5 good years in the US during the tech boom and I still
>>have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
>>happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
>>as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
>>I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
>>beginning to become a pain in the arse.
>As a greencard holder, I think the 'conditions' placed on our
>residency are fair.
>Why don't you do your citizenship?
>Cath
Possibly he doesn't do it because, like a lot of people, he doesn't
regard the US as "the promised land". One of my friends in IT here
recently spent some time working in the US. His summation, "A nice
place to live but I wouldn't want to raise chidren there!".
I guess US citizenship isn't everyone's dream!
Tom
Nov 21st 2002, 10:17 am
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Re: Anybody here return from the tech bust in the US?
The reason I don't do it is because I'm not elligble for it. ie. I've
not hit my 4.5 years before I can apply. Also my wife is Thai and this
really causes me some delimas as it's a while before she could go to
the US with me being a citizen. Further I'd become tricitizen if I
went the US citizenship route and I don't know what the consequences
of that are. But I do know that it doesn't really benefit my Thai wife
in the short term for me to go to the US. I wanted to seriously
consider working in Australia but I think the situation is just as bad
there as it is in the US so really my returning to the US is all about
preserving my greencard.
All of this said my wife has a decent job in Bangkok and is in no
hurry to leave Thailand so if I can find decent paying work in the US
it would be worth it in the long run but life is tough apart like
that.
Advice welcome.
Tom Clasener wrote in message news:...
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:06:44 GMT, [email protected]
> (Cath) wrote:
>
> >On 20 Nov 2002 07:36:31 -0800, [email protected] (Robert Nicholson)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hi, I lived 5 good years in the US during the tech boom and I still
> >>have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
> >>happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
> >>as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
> >>I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
> >>beginning to become a pain in the arse.
> >
> >As a greencard holder, I think the 'conditions' placed on our
> >residency are fair.
> >
> >Why don't you do your citizenship?
> >
> >Cath
> >
> Possibly he doesn't do it because, like a lot of people, he doesn't
> regard the US as "the promised land". One of my friends in IT here
> recently spent some time working in the US. His summation, "A nice
> place to live but I wouldn't want to raise chidren there!".
> I guess US citizenship isn't everyone's dream!
>
> Tom
not hit my 4.5 years before I can apply. Also my wife is Thai and this
really causes me some delimas as it's a while before she could go to
the US with me being a citizen. Further I'd become tricitizen if I
went the US citizenship route and I don't know what the consequences
of that are. But I do know that it doesn't really benefit my Thai wife
in the short term for me to go to the US. I wanted to seriously
consider working in Australia but I think the situation is just as bad
there as it is in the US so really my returning to the US is all about
preserving my greencard.
All of this said my wife has a decent job in Bangkok and is in no
hurry to leave Thailand so if I can find decent paying work in the US
it would be worth it in the long run but life is tough apart like
that.
Advice welcome.
Tom Clasener wrote in message news:...
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:06:44 GMT, [email protected]
> (Cath) wrote:
>
> >On 20 Nov 2002 07:36:31 -0800, [email protected] (Robert Nicholson)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hi, I lived 5 good years in the US during the tech boom and I still
> >>have my US greencard but as I have a Thai wife and are currently
> >>happily married I'm questioning the use of the green card especially
> >>as the job market is no better there right now. As a green card holder
> >>I have to live with many travel restrictions and this is quite frankly
> >>beginning to become a pain in the arse.
> >
> >As a greencard holder, I think the 'conditions' placed on our
> >residency are fair.
> >
> >Why don't you do your citizenship?
> >
> >Cath
> >
> Possibly he doesn't do it because, like a lot of people, he doesn't
> regard the US as "the promised land". One of my friends in IT here
> recently spent some time working in the US. His summation, "A nice
> place to live but I wouldn't want to raise chidren there!".
> I guess US citizenship isn't everyone's dream!
>
> Tom
Nov 21st 2002, 2:18 pm
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Re: Anybody here return from the tech bust in the US?
Hi Robert, my two cents ...
"Robert Nicholson" wrote in message
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| Given my experience in Australia (about 16 years living there) I
| believe it offers the best standard of living of all the places I'm
| elligble to go. Currently USA, Australia, UK/Europe.
Certainly, the recent UN report put Australia as 5th in the world for
standard of living, above the US (6th), the UK (~18th) and I don't remember
Canada but it was below 5th.
| If you returned to Australia after the tech bust in the US why did you
| choose to do so?
That's an interesting one. I'm returning because the health care (not
health products) is much more progressive (possibly due to the Chinese
influence) and they're more interested in healing you than masking or
treating your symptoms.
Also, I used to live in Australia and missed the cut and thrust of the US.
Now that I'm back I don't know what I was thinking. Apart from Japan, the
US has been the only first world country to go into recession. This time
around it's not just sitting out another economic down cycle, a large reason
for lack of investor confidence is due to corporate scandals, in my opinion,
and that's going to take a while to fix. What with the least-baked excuse
for going to war the US has ever come up with, I think the US as an empire
(and all that entails) is on its way out.
"Robert Nicholson" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| Given my experience in Australia (about 16 years living there) I
| believe it offers the best standard of living of all the places I'm
| elligble to go. Currently USA, Australia, UK/Europe.
Certainly, the recent UN report put Australia as 5th in the world for
standard of living, above the US (6th), the UK (~18th) and I don't remember
Canada but it was below 5th.
| If you returned to Australia after the tech bust in the US why did you
| choose to do so?
That's an interesting one. I'm returning because the health care (not
health products) is much more progressive (possibly due to the Chinese
influence) and they're more interested in healing you than masking or
treating your symptoms.
Also, I used to live in Australia and missed the cut and thrust of the US.
Now that I'm back I don't know what I was thinking. Apart from Japan, the
US has been the only first world country to go into recession. This time
around it's not just sitting out another economic down cycle, a large reason
for lack of investor confidence is due to corporate scandals, in my opinion,
and that's going to take a while to fix. What with the least-baked excuse
for going to war the US has ever come up with, I think the US as an empire
(and all that entails) is on its way out.
Nov 21st 2002, 2:35 pm
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Re: Anybody here return from the tech bust in the US?
On 21 Nov 2002 03:17:30 -0800, [email protected] (Robert Nicholson)
wrote:
>The reason I don't do it is because I'm not elligble for it. ie. I've
>not hit my 4.5 years before I can apply. Also my wife is Thai and this
>really causes me some delimas as it's a while before she could go to
>the US with me being a citizen. Further I'd become tricitizen if I
>went the US citizenship route and I don't know what the consequences
>of that are. But I do know that it doesn't really benefit my Thai wife
>in the short term for me to go to the US. I wanted to seriously
>consider working in Australia but I think the situation is just as bad
>there as it is in the US so really my returning to the US is all about
>preserving my greencard.
I understand about leaving the US on a greencard/re-entering problems.
But I don't blame the US Govt for this law considering the huge
numbers of immigrants it admits [legally] each year.
You need to check whether under your own country's laws, you can be a
dual citizenship.
You need to check if you can sponsor your wife in - either call the
INS, check their website for info or see an immigration attorney.
Good luck!
Cath
wrote:
>The reason I don't do it is because I'm not elligble for it. ie. I've
>not hit my 4.5 years before I can apply. Also my wife is Thai and this
>really causes me some delimas as it's a while before she could go to
>the US with me being a citizen. Further I'd become tricitizen if I
>went the US citizenship route and I don't know what the consequences
>of that are. But I do know that it doesn't really benefit my Thai wife
>in the short term for me to go to the US. I wanted to seriously
>consider working in Australia but I think the situation is just as bad
>there as it is in the US so really my returning to the US is all about
>preserving my greencard.
I understand about leaving the US on a greencard/re-entering problems.
But I don't blame the US Govt for this law considering the huge
numbers of immigrants it admits [legally] each year.
You need to check whether under your own country's laws, you can be a
dual citizenship.
You need to check if you can sponsor your wife in - either call the
INS, check their website for info or see an immigration attorney.
Good luck!
Cath
