Steven O'Neil

I have just heard a rumour, I stress that it is not officially announced by DIMIA yet .. But there is a strong possibility that DIMIA will take into account the work experience that ACS use in their skills assessment process.

That is for example a person who requires a degree plus 4 years work experience to meet the ACS requirements, may be able to count this 4 years in their DIMIA work experience requirements.

There has been NO official announcement yet, but as soon as I hear more I will add to this thread.

Regards

Steven O'Neil
Perth
www.iscah.com

Alan Collett

I have seen this commented upon too Steven, no doubt in the same place as you ...

Personally I think the present arrangement has logic where a person has no formal qualifications, in that until a person has attained a particular level of skill (ie the deeming date as determined by the ACS or the TRA) he or she cannot be considered to be working at a skilled level.

As such skilled work can only reasonably be considered to be carried out after the deeming date.

Lets see what comes out of Canberra ...

Best regards.

Steven O'Neil

Hi Alan

I also got a response back from DIMIA Canberra saying that they are working on clarified policy guidelines re the ACS satisfaction date issue however they will not be able to confirm anything until late next week.

Again for everyone (and I am sure that Alan will reiterate this) there is NOTHING official yet until DIMIA announce some new policy guidelines so do not take any action until all information is available to you.

Regards

Steven O'Neil
Perth
www.iscah.com

h0pe

Hello

First of all I just want to say a big thank you for sharing this important information and possibly the greatest news on this forum ever. Incidentally, in our case this particular issue is of crucial importance, as is for many other applications, I imagine. Fingers crossed it will be confirmed!!

I am just curious, though, why would this be happening? (I wouldn't be complaining!) I thought the whole idea of the deeming date was to stop a large number of jobless IT immigrants swamping Australia. Now it seems ASPC is trying to cancel the effect of this. Why? I don't know about Australia, but here in the UK and in the US there are definitely more jobs than a year ago - could that be it?

Best wishes
Hope

Puta Nana

Hello there,

See Steven, I put a question to vote for the best agent in this group
and I voted for you and this been proven that you are the best and
active then anyone else by providing this excellent news to group
(Now how many points goes for my assessment-LOL).

This will indeed be really nice to hear further news regarding this
matter as it seems like that half of the world is worried because of
this deeming date issue. Anyway further news will be highly
appreciated in this matter.

However I am also wondering that why DIMIA is taking this action
because it seems like 95% people in this group are I.T professionals
and have lodged their applications and rush of I.T professionals in
Australia is not a hidden point any more.

Anyway, we hope for a positive news in near future.

Best regards.

Steven O'Neil wrote in message news:...
    > I have just heard a rumour, I stress that it is not officially
    > announced by DIMIA yet .. But there is a strong possibility that DIMIA
    > will take into account the work experience that ACS use in their skills
    > assessment process.
    >
    > That is for example a person who requires a degree plus 4 years work
    > experience to meet the ACS requirements, may be able to count this 4
    > years in their DIMIA work experience requirements.
    >
    > There has been NO official announcement yet, but as soon as I hear more
    > I will add to this thread.
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Steven O'Neil
    > Perth
    > www.iscah.com

ptlabs

Not necessarily so :-)


Peter

Steven O'Neil

Hi Puta

I would say that all the agents in this group are great in giving their time and well thought answers. I would also expect that most give MORE time than I do to this forum (ie George, Alan, Michael, Jeremy, Peter etc). However I do appreciate your kind words.

On the possible changes, lets see

1) If they happen
2) What they might be

Until it is actually stated by DIMIA the purpose of my thread was just to make people aware that there are some 'possible' changes that could be of benefit to IT people. Hopefully details late next week.

Regards
Steven O'Neil
Perth

Vasantha

Steven,

Any news regarding DIMIA's consideration of work experience prior to the ACS 'deemed date'?

thanks,
V

pluto

I do not think it has anything to do with DIMA. If DIMA has to change a policy it cannot do just for ACS. Deeming date is an old thing that used to be on ACS RPL assessments pre-OCt 2002 which DIMA used. Now ACS are putting it on all assessments. Changes have to be made on ACS front not DIMA. DIMA has to use the same policy for all other trades like TRA. And this has been discussed that deeming date point is in DIMA's internal policy manuals which we do not normally have access to. So why would they change it just for ACS?

TPTP

Hi Steven

Would like to firstly thank you for your efforts, your (and the other moderators) advice on this forum is invaluable and much appreciated.

Any updates on this post of yours?

Secondly, if the ACS letter states that you have such and such diploma equivalent to an Australian Diploma; as well as stating they calculate your work experience to be 5 years, is that enough to meet minimum requirements?

Thanks once again
TP

Karen

Just so I can get this clear in my confused little mind. I Applied to
ACS for skills assessment (not RPL). And got a deeming date back of
June 2002. I assumed this meant that I only just scraped through for
the basic requirement of 1 years experience this June. Is this right
or will DIMIA take into account all my experience?
I'm very confused over this, any response would be welcome.

Karen.

pluto wrote in message news:...
    > I do not think it has anything to do with DIMA. If DIMA has to change a
    > policy it cannot do just for ACS. Deeming date is an old thing that used
    > to be on ACS RPL assessments pre-OCt 2002 which DIMA used. Now ACS are
    > putting it on all assessments. Changes have to be made on ACS front not
    > DIMA. DIMA has to use the same policy for all other trades like TRA. And
    > this has been discussed that deeming date point is in DIMA's internal
    > policy manuals which we do not normally have access to. So why would
    > they change it just for ACS?

Margarita Mincheva

Hi Karen,

I think that you satisfy DIMIA basic requirements in June, 2003.

Best regards,
Ritka

Karen wrote:
    > Just so I can get this clear in my confused little mind. I Applied to
    > ACS for skills assessment (not RPL). And got a deeming date back of
    > June 2002. I assumed this meant that I only just scraped through for
    > the basic requirement of 1 years experience this June. Is this right
    > or will DIMIA take into account all my experience?
    > I'm very confused over this, any response would be welcome.
    >
    > Karen.
    >
    > pluto wrote in message news:...
    >
    >>I do not think it has anything to do with DIMA. If DIMA has to change a
    >>policy it cannot do just for ACS. Deeming date is an old thing that used
    >>to be on ACS RPL assessments pre-OCt 2002 which DIMA used. Now ACS are
    >>putting it on all assessments. Changes have to be made on ACS front not
    >>DIMA. DIMA has to use the same policy for all other trades like TRA. And
    >>this has been discussed that deeming date point is in DIMA's internal
    >>policy manuals which we do not normally have access to. So why would
    >>they change it just for ACS?
    >

Margarita Mincheva

And something else: you must have continuous work length of service from
June, 2002 till June, 2003, if you want to apply now.

Margarita Mincheva wrote:
    > Hi Karen,
    >
    > I think that you satisfy DIMIA basic requirements in June, 2003.
    >
    > Best regards,
    > Ritka
    >
    > Karen wrote:
    >
    >> Just so I can get this clear in my confused little mind. I Applied to
    >> ACS for skills assessment (not RPL). And got a deeming date back of
    >> June 2002. I assumed this meant that I only just scraped through for
    >> the basic requirement of 1 years experience this June. Is this right
    >> or will DIMIA take into account all my experience?
    >> I'm very confused over this, any response would be welcome.
    >> Karen.
    >> pluto wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> I do not think it has anything to do with DIMA. If DIMA has to change a
    >>> policy it cannot do just for ACS. Deeming date is an old thing that used
    >>> to be on ACS RPL assessments pre-OCt 2002 which DIMA used. Now ACS are
    >>> putting it on all assessments. Changes have to be made on ACS front not
    >>> DIMA. DIMA has to use the same policy for all other trades like TRA. And
    >>> this has been discussed that deeming date point is in DIMA's internal
    >>> policy manuals which we do not normally have access to. So why would
    >>> they change it just for ACS?
    >

Vasantha

Any new information regarding this? Thanks.

Steven O'Neil

I am still trying to get information on this change. DIMIA thought they would have rewritten the policy on ACS completion dates last week. But may not have happened yet. I will put information up as soon as I get it.

Cheers

Steven O'Neil
Perth
www.iscah.com