beefourrm

Hi

If ACS\DIMA decide to bring down the points for the IT occupations from 60 to 50, will it affect the applications that have already been submitted?

Thanks

ddub

Have you heard that the might? Its difficult enough to get the points now with all this deeming date bs (9 years IT experience needed if you want SWE points and don't have an IT degree).

This seriously reduce the numbers of applicants, so I hope you're just scaremongering here!

I'm waiting for some documents before applying for skills assesment and RPL, I don't need anything else to worry about!

DD

ptlabs

If the world turned square tomorrow, would we survive the resulting earthquake?

No one can answer either questions unless you're the Immigration Minister or God, respectively.


Peter

P.S. The ACS has no authority to change the points for IT occupations. Only DIMIA can do that.

Steven O'Neil

If the points for the occupation you nominate drop to 50 before your points are allocated (usually done about 80% through your processing period) then you will only be allocated 50 points in the points test.

Like others I do not expect this to happen. More likely the ACS tougheninig of their criteria will solve the problem. But we could all be wrong.

Regards

Steven O'Neil
Perth
www.iscah.com

Jerry Hooper

The points test is assessed at the time of decision, the DIMIA could make a
case that even thought the occupation was worth 60 points at the time of
application it would only be worth 50 points at the time of decision, and
thus it would affect your application. However, there have been test cases
in instances where the ground rules have changed between making an applicant
and the time of decision where the court has found for the applicanting.
They did not agree with moving the goal posts after the ball had been
kicked.

Jerry Hooper
Reg, Mig. Agent 0107902



"beefourrm" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi
    > If ACS\DIMA decide to bring down the points for the IT occupations from
    > 60 to 50, will it affect the applications that have already been
    > submitted?
    > Thanks
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

beefourrm

The other way to look at this is...
If the points are brought down to 50, it will also reduce the points for experience to 5 and ofcourse if the occupation is worth only 50 then it can never be on the MODL.
So applicants currently having points as high as 130 will end up with 110.

Please correct me if I am wrong...

Steven O'Neil

That is correct, all those points for work experience, MODL and qualification refer to what ever Government Gazette notice is in force at the time of DECISION (allocation of points) , not at time of application.

Regards

Steven O'Neil
Perth
www.iscah.com

sherman

Any such possible change of ICT's point in a close future???

So frightened by your discussion!

Jaj

It's actually time of assessment that matters, not the points test as
it is at visa decision which comes later.

They have the right under the law to make such a change retrospective,
although that's not to say it would be (as the May 2002 pass mark
increase was not).

Jeremy

    >On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:29:36 +0800, "Jerry Hooper" wrote:
    >The points test is assessed at the time of decision, the DIMIA could make a
    >case that even thought the occupation was worth 60 points at the time of
    >application it would only be worth 50 points at the time of decision, and
    >thus it would affect your application. However, there have been test cases
    >in instances where the ground rules have changed between making an applicant
    >and the time of decision where the court has found for the applicanting.
    >They did not agree with moving the goal posts after the ball had been
    >kicked.
    >Jerry Hooper
    >Reg, Mig. Agent 0107902
    >"beefourrm" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> Hi
    >> If ACS\DIMA decide to bring down the points for the IT occupations from
    >> 60 to 50, will it affect the applications that have already been
    >> submitted?
    >> Thanks
    >> --
    >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Jaj

Isn't that time of assessment, at which point the points score is
'fixed'?

Time of decision is at the very end of the process, when medical and
character checks are complete.

Jeremy

    >On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 07:08:19 +0000, Steven O'Neil wrote:
    >That is correct, all those points for work experience, MODL and
    >qualification refer to what ever Government Gazette notice is in force
    >at the time of DECISION (allocation of points) , not at time of
    >application.
    >Regards
    >Steven O'Neil
    >Perth
    >www.iscah.com
    >--
    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

Jaj

The October 2002 changes to the ACS guidelines and the new deeming
date policy have already made it a lot harder for ICT people from
overseas to qualify.

If you look at all the changes that took place in 2002 (end of
fast-track, MODL cuts and new ACS policies) there have been a lot of
changes already.

More likely is a crackdown on onshore students getting PR, many of
whom have (Australian) IT degrees that prove useless in the job
market.

Jeremy

    >On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 10:33:53 +0000, sherman wrote:
    >Any such possible change of ICT's point in a close future???
    >So frightened by your discussion!
    >--
    >Posted via http://britishexpats.com

This is not intended to be legal advice in any jurisdiction

sherman

Just heard from another forum, Aussie perhaps will change a lot on Immi regulations again in this Mar. or Apr., God!!! Is that true?

ptlabs

Maybe it will, maybe it won't.

Which other forum is this anyway?


Peter

beefourrm

Incase one is faced with such a situation where the DIMA brings down the points and thereby the points tally gets decreased considerably for an applicant, what are the other options, if any that one is left with? one being that the application itself goes into the pool...and pray that the passmark is brought down.

Thunder Ace

[email protected] (JAJ) wrote in message news:...
    > The October 2002 changes to the ACS guidelines and the new deeming
    > date policy have already made it a lot harder for ICT people from
    > overseas to qualify.
    >
    > If you look at all the changes that took place in 2002 (end of
    > fast-track, MODL cuts and new ACS policies) there have been a lot of
    > changes already.
    >
    > More likely is a crackdown on onshore students getting PR, many of
    > whom have (Australian) IT degrees that prove useless in the job
    > market.

Assuming you are still referring to the IT job market, I'm surprised
you think an Australian IT degree is useless. Surely it's a very
useful thing to have?

Thunder Ace