457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
May 27th 2009, 10:06 am
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457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
My husband is on a 457 and has been told by his employer that he will be sponsored for permanent residency after 2 years service. As you know, with the 457 you miss out on so many thing, including security, so we decided to look into applying for the 175. We told the employer and they said that was fine, but he had signed a 3 year contract and that they look to reclaim loses should he leave before then - he likes his job so wouldn't.
Anyway, we contacted again, just to go over everything before submitting. This time they have said that if he is granted a 175 visa his contact will be null and void as it rests on the 457, and he will be out of a job.
Is this a common thing with 457 visas? I can understand the first response, and that is understandable as they have paid to sponsor him to get in on a 457, but the second response, which TOTALLY contradicts the first seems rather strange!
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Kareena
Anyway, we contacted again, just to go over everything before submitting. This time they have said that if he is granted a 175 visa his contact will be null and void as it rests on the 457, and he will be out of a job.
Is this a common thing with 457 visas? I can understand the first response, and that is understandable as they have paid to sponsor him to get in on a 457, but the second response, which TOTALLY contradicts the first seems rather strange!
Thanks
Kareena
May 27th 2009, 10:20 am
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Re: 457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
Hi Kareena,
Im shocked by this, as when we looked into this I was told the opposite.
We were told our job was fine. However this was 2 years ago and things can change.
I will pm you.
Gems
Im shocked by this, as when we looked into this I was told the opposite.
We were told our job was fine. However this was 2 years ago and things can change.
I will pm you.
Gems
May 27th 2009, 10:50 am
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Re: 457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
Ps, Its quite common for expats to decide they dont want to wait the 2yrs. Therefore they usually apply for their own PR visa. I checked this out prior to arriving in OZ.
Id seek advice from immigration agent eg gomatilda.
Gems
Id seek advice from immigration agent eg gomatilda.
Gems
May 27th 2009, 11:02 am
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Re: 457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
My husband is on a 457 and has been told by his employer that he will be sponsored for permanent residency after 2 years service. As you know, with the 457 you miss out on so many thing, including security, so we decided to look into applying for the 175. We told the employer and they said that was fine, but he had signed a 3 year contract and that they look to reclaim loses should he leave before then - he likes his job so wouldn't.
Anyway, we contacted again, just to go over everything before submitting. This time they have said that if he is granted a 175 visa his contact will be null and void as it rests on the 457, and he will be out of a job.
Is this a common thing with 457 visas? I can understand the first response, and that is understandable as they have paid to sponsor him to get in on a 457, but the second response, which TOTALLY contradicts the first seems rather strange!
Thanks
Kareena
Anyway, we contacted again, just to go over everything before submitting. This time they have said that if he is granted a 175 visa his contact will be null and void as it rests on the 457, and he will be out of a job.
Is this a common thing with 457 visas? I can understand the first response, and that is understandable as they have paid to sponsor him to get in on a 457, but the second response, which TOTALLY contradicts the first seems rather strange!
Thanks
Kareena
Australian employers cant discriminate against somebody for whatever they do in their private life.
i can understand the employer may feel that the employee may leave them after he is independent on own PR visa but to threaten to fire staff on this basis is totally over the line.
May 27th 2009, 11:34 am
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Re: 457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
My husband is on a 457 and has been told by his employer that he will be sponsored for permanent residency after 2 years service. As you know, with the 457 you miss out on so many thing, including security, so we decided to look into applying for the 175. We told the employer and they said that was fine, but he had signed a 3 year contract and that they look to reclaim loses should he leave before then - he likes his job so wouldn't.
Anyway, we contacted again, just to go over everything before submitting. This time they have said that if he is granted a 175 visa his contact will be null and void as it rests on the 457, and he will be out of a job.
Is this a common thing with 457 visas? I can understand the first response, and that is understandable as they have paid to sponsor him to get in on a 457, but the second response, which TOTALLY contradicts the first seems rather strange!
Thanks
Kareena
Anyway, we contacted again, just to go over everything before submitting. This time they have said that if he is granted a 175 visa his contact will be null and void as it rests on the 457, and he will be out of a job.
Is this a common thing with 457 visas? I can understand the first response, and that is understandable as they have paid to sponsor him to get in on a 457, but the second response, which TOTALLY contradicts the first seems rather strange!
Thanks
Kareena
There are a couple of major Indian IT contractors who do this - apparently no-one has successfully challenged them in the courts - but your best option would be to talk to a reliable recruitment agency and certainly the current end user of his skills to assess the risk since generally those contractors do seem to pay their employees as little as possible.
Cheers,
George Lombard
May 27th 2009, 12:05 pm
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Re: 457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
Hi Kareena,
There are a couple of major Indian IT contractors who do this - apparently no-one has successfully challenged them in the courts - but your best option would be to talk to a reliable recruitment agency and certainly the current end user of his skills to assess the risk since generally those contractors do seem to pay their employees as little as possible.
Cheers,
George Lombard
There are a couple of major Indian IT contractors who do this - apparently no-one has successfully challenged them in the courts - but your best option would be to talk to a reliable recruitment agency and certainly the current end user of his skills to assess the risk since generally those contractors do seem to pay their employees as little as possible.
Cheers,
George Lombard
May 27th 2009, 12:13 pm
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Re: 457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
In which case I reckon you'd need to get them to go up the hierarchy as it doesn't make good administrative sense unless they're used to the power to hire and fire 457 holders at will. But this in fact is exactly what the union movement has been campaigning on and in this light you ought to give the union a call.
Cheers,
George Lombard
May 27th 2009, 12:26 pm
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Re: 457 to 175 - Anyone heard of this?
Hi Karkier,
In which case I reckon you'd need to get them to go up the hierarchy as it doesn't make good administrative sense unless they're used to the power to hire and fire 457 holders at will. But this in fact is exactly what the union movement has been campaigning on and in this light you ought to give the union a call.
Cheers,
George Lombard
In which case I reckon you'd need to get them to go up the hierarchy as it doesn't make good administrative sense unless they're used to the power to hire and fire 457 holders at will. But this in fact is exactly what the union movement has been campaigning on and in this light you ought to give the union a call.
Cheers,
George Lombard
Think further exploration of the signed contract needs to be looked at!
Kareena
