Northener

<sniped>........ I am British and my husband is French and we live in France. We are looking to move to New Zealand and have been on the French forums.......... <snipped>





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carcajou

Northerner, it would be helpful if you would discuss your circumstances.

Your first point of call should be the points calculator on the Skilled Migration site:

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-...ator-smc-28aug

You will need 160 points. That is very, very difficult for most people to achieve without a job offer - and a job offer is very, very difficult for most people to achieve without a pre-existing professional network in New Zealand.

Some fields are easier than others. Just because an occupation is on the shortage list doesn't mean there is an actual shortage or that jobs in that field are plentiful.

If you can't achieve 160 points there isn't much point in you spending a lot of time and energy on this.

If you are under a certain age you can try for a Working Holiday Visa, and see if a job offer can spring loose when you are in country. New Zealand is a country where employers need to be able to put a face to a CV. That makes it very hard for foreigners cold-calling and cold-CV-sending from Europe to break in. But it also means that once you're "in" - if you ever get "in" - you're "in" for good.

Finally . . . if you are visiting multiple forums in multiple languages and they are all saying the same thing . . . I would look for common themes that are being thrown up and seeing how that could impact you, and what can be done to possibly mitigate it . . . instead of just dismissing it as a ton of whinging because you want to move to New Zealand.

Northener

scrubbedexpat094

Without a job you won't get a visa at your age. I'm not being funny, I'm your age too! Have you looked on the NZ Immigration Service website? It's quite easy to work your way through it. Things have changed since we applied for a skilled visa back in 2004!

carcajou

Well hopefully "over 50" means "55 or younger," because you are not eligible for a Skilled Migrant or Work to Residence Visa if you are 56 or over.

The job offer comes before the visa. The offer is assessed as part of the application. It isn't easy; there are a lot of hurdles for a NZ employer to jump through, to make an offer to someone who is not a NZ or Australian Citizen or Permanent Resident.

What professions are you in? Perhaps someone can chime in with information.

Have a look at the NZ Government's immigration site - you may also want to consider a consultation with a migration agent (something like an initial consultation, with no commitment) to lay out realistic options for you. Unfortunately at the moment, based on what you have written - it does not seem like things are looking too good.

I really would just do that first, and stop worrying about and researching things like how much it costs to transport the dogs. None of that matters without a viable visa strategy.

Northener

Northener

MrsFychan

Northerner may I suggest you start a thread in the immigration sub forum stating your skills (careers), ages, qualifications etc and we can give you some understanding on your prospects and process. Please note that the criteria is ever changing, new salary levels on the skills lists come into force on 1st July, parent category has been suspended and there are mumblings that it will not reopen on another media platform. Also if you wish your daughter to come with you you may well have to show that she is dependant on you as the cut off age for children is 19 (which actually is younger than it used to be, so not sure when that changed?)

BEVS

Let's get you started.

Nopes. Not difficult at all. We've all been there, seen it , done it, inside out and upsidedown.

BEVS

What sort please? Construction?

Not much call for French & ESOLs are not in shortage here, however, there could be work for you online. Mostly to Chinese folks. That could work.

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I know you have and I would value it. However NZ values home growns and NZ experience over & above anything else. Adapt to NZ ways . Overseas experience really counts for not a lot.

Your daughter will not be a part of your application. She would need to apply under her own steam and may / may not succeed

Before commenting further by 'receptionist' do you mean in hospitality please?

They always say that. They want your money.

Please do keep asking and checking here as people like me can help give a good clear picture for free. If you know exactly what you are batting with you have a better chance to not be led by the nose and to perhaps succeed.

You have another topic (thread) for this. I'd suggest putting those worries on hold for now except to investigate and choose a good pet shipper.

OK. That gets us started I think.

Northener

BEVS

Noooo.

I'm just someone that's been knocking around a while. There is a lot of us like this all around BE.

Do come back with any questions or thoughts.

LittleGreyCat

Back in the day people used to fly to NZ on a tourist visa and interview for jobs during their holidays.
I don't know if this contravenes the current visa restrictions (if they find out) but flying over and making the effort to meet face to face shows a level of commitment and also gives you a chance to get the feel of NZ and be sure that you will like it.

It is very easy for someone in Europe to fire off some job applications because they are fed up with their current job and situation but there are a lot of people without real commitment who do this.

You can put your dogs in kennels (they will have to face this anyway if they come with you when you migrate) then you can bring your daughter as well. Or leave her with the dogs, of course.
However if she wants to come with you as a migrant then she needs to do her own marketing in NZ by meeting people and handing out her CV.

escapedtonz

In the past - up until 12th October 2016, a person was not strictly allowed to come to NZ on a visitor visa in order to find work or attend interviews etc unless Immigration had been previously notified, your intentions declared and you had been approved to carry out your intentions. Obviously nobody did this as there was a risk of Immigration saying no so majority of people just risked it with many falling foul of the rules and being turned around and sent back to wherever they came from with a 3 year ban on entry.
Since 12 October 2016 Immigration accepted what happens in real life and has since allowed the use of this visa so people can come here to holiday and also check out the job market, meet with potential employers, attend interviews etc.
Common sense prevailed in the end.

BEVS

That was us that was.

I tend to agree. I always try to underpin that boots on ground is best.