permanent residence under Family Category-Parent Class
Mar 8th 2010, 9:11 pm
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permanent residence under Family Category-Parent Class
Hi everyone
Our son and his wfe and 2 young grandchildren emigrated to Nelson nearly 3 years ago,and our other son and his girlfriend when she finishes her nurses course is going to apply which will be about 2years away.
My son who is there already says we should try and move over there aswell,so we are going to try.
I am 55 and my wife is 53,I have a problem with my ankle and been out of work for the last 5years and had a operation on it sort the problem out but it did not work and was in a lot of pain when walking/standing for any length of time,have had 2 more since wth very little change,the conclusion is it may now be a case of living with it and controlled with pain relief.My wife is in full time work.
I tried to find out if this would be a problem and did not get much joy from emigration bureau,saying they take each case as it comes when it comes to the medicals,and could not say it would be a problem untill the forms go in.
As we would be applying under the Family Category-Parent Class and our son will need to have been there for 3 years to Sponser us.Our son says we would be better off staying in the uk as at our age we are to old to adjust,and that it would be very expensive to live there as you have to pay for eveything i.e. Hospital treatments,Doctors visits etc,Dentist evrything,and in uk you do not.
After all this my question is does anyone agree with him and we should stay at home or try and get over there,as when the other son does go its going to be a bit lonely here.
Sorry for the long winded letter but just wanted some opinions on parents going over there at an age and these things become important issues.
Michael
Our son and his wfe and 2 young grandchildren emigrated to Nelson nearly 3 years ago,and our other son and his girlfriend when she finishes her nurses course is going to apply which will be about 2years away.
My son who is there already says we should try and move over there aswell,so we are going to try.
I am 55 and my wife is 53,I have a problem with my ankle and been out of work for the last 5years and had a operation on it sort the problem out but it did not work and was in a lot of pain when walking/standing for any length of time,have had 2 more since wth very little change,the conclusion is it may now be a case of living with it and controlled with pain relief.My wife is in full time work.
I tried to find out if this would be a problem and did not get much joy from emigration bureau,saying they take each case as it comes when it comes to the medicals,and could not say it would be a problem untill the forms go in.
As we would be applying under the Family Category-Parent Class and our son will need to have been there for 3 years to Sponser us.Our son says we would be better off staying in the uk as at our age we are to old to adjust,and that it would be very expensive to live there as you have to pay for eveything i.e. Hospital treatments,Doctors visits etc,Dentist evrything,and in uk you do not.
After all this my question is does anyone agree with him and we should stay at home or try and get over there,as when the other son does go its going to be a bit lonely here.
Sorry for the long winded letter but just wanted some opinions on parents going over there at an age and these things become important issues.
Michael
Mar 8th 2010, 9:53 pm
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Re: permanent residence under Family Category-Parent Class
Hi Michael
First of all you are NOT too old. I have applied for a parent visa with my husband and I am 64 this year and my husband is 65! We cannot wait to get over there and our NEW life begins. I am still working full time in the NHS.
Regarding your ankle, all I can say is if you really want to join your son is go for it, when the time comes, have your medical and see what happens. It will probably be referred to a Medical Officer like mine has been and you may need to get more detailed information or a prognosis from your Consultant regarding your ankle but if you really want to live in New Zealand, hand on heart - you have to give it a try. What they are looking at is will your health cost the New Zealand government more than $250000 in the first 4 years of you living there.
Regarding the cost of living in NZ - we won't have a lot of money to spare when we are finally living there but having visited NZ many times, I think things are cheaper than in the UK - certainly Council Tax equivalent, car insurance etc., oh and you actually get interest on your savings in the bank!
First of all you are NOT too old. I have applied for a parent visa with my husband and I am 64 this year and my husband is 65! We cannot wait to get over there and our NEW life begins. I am still working full time in the NHS.
Regarding your ankle, all I can say is if you really want to join your son is go for it, when the time comes, have your medical and see what happens. It will probably be referred to a Medical Officer like mine has been and you may need to get more detailed information or a prognosis from your Consultant regarding your ankle but if you really want to live in New Zealand, hand on heart - you have to give it a try. What they are looking at is will your health cost the New Zealand government more than $250000 in the first 4 years of you living there.
Regarding the cost of living in NZ - we won't have a lot of money to spare when we are finally living there but having visited NZ many times, I think things are cheaper than in the UK - certainly Council Tax equivalent, car insurance etc., oh and you actually get interest on your savings in the bank!
Mar 8th 2010, 9:55 pm
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Too old to adjust to NZ coz you're in your 50's !? Cheeky sod. 
Tell him on his blummin' bike.
I was 50 when we touched these shores. Am now 55 and hubby is 50.
There are several couples on here who moved around this age and a wee bit older.
The son that is living in Nelson . What is his line of work out of interest and being nosey.
What's the medical reason for the ankle being a pain?
If you had PR , then hospital treatment is free. Doctors you pay for. Same dentists.
We survive on one income here but you would have to think and research whether or not your wife would be able to find full time employment in this area. If you could afford a house and stuff like that.
Paula - Did you mean $250K or $25K in 4 years ?
Tell him on his blummin' bike.I was 50 when we touched these shores. Am now 55 and hubby is 50.
There are several couples on here who moved around this age and a wee bit older.
The son that is living in Nelson . What is his line of work out of interest and being nosey.
What's the medical reason for the ankle being a pain?
If you had PR , then hospital treatment is free. Doctors you pay for. Same dentists.
We survive on one income here but you would have to think and research whether or not your wife would be able to find full time employment in this area. If you could afford a house and stuff like that.
Paula - Did you mean $250K or $25K in 4 years ?
Mar 8th 2010, 9:58 pm
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Oops - sorry I meant $25K in 4 years - (got carried away with too many 000000000)
Mar 9th 2010, 6:23 am
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Hi Michael, 
You are certainly not too old to adapt to a new life over here.
If you dont give it a go you will never know!
You are certainly not too old to adapt to a new life over here.
If you dont give it a go you will never know!
Mar 9th 2010, 8:10 am
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Thanky for your prompt replies,they are all very encouraging. I think he is more worried about medical issues,like if something happens and need hospital treatment and the cost etc. I have e-mailed him to ask what all these concerns are and to have a talk about them,he says he will put a list together for us to look at and discuss.
The problem we have is every thing was fine about trying to move over there now we have started the ball rolling and forms are here fill in in things seem to worry him. Probably the sponsorship requirements.
Will have to wait for the list!
P.S
So you or you able to get some kind of Ins/Medical cover for those important occasions. If you had a accident or Hospitalized for a illness/heart attack (god forbid) is it pay up.
Many thanks for the comments
Michael
The problem we have is every thing was fine about trying to move over there now we have started the ball rolling and forms are here fill in in things seem to worry him. Probably the sponsorship requirements.
Will have to wait for the list!
P.S
So you or you able to get some kind of Ins/Medical cover for those important occasions. If you had a accident or Hospitalized for a illness/heart attack (god forbid) is it pay up.
Many thanks for the comments
Michael
Mar 9th 2010, 8:24 am
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Re: permanent residence under Family Category-Parent Class
Well Michael, you are in a way better position to be considering this way in than my mum. She's just returned after 7 days visit here to the UK and is undecided.
She is 76 and has a pacemaker. We can't apply to sponsor her until next month when we have been here 3 years. My understanding is it will then take around 2 years before she is assigned a case officer and a lot can happen in that time.
I'm with the others - you're certainly not old and if your family are all going to be here then it's surely got to be better to try to get here than sit at home wondering about it for another x amount of years?
My understanding on the medical insurance is they won't cover you for any existing conditions, i.e. your ankle.
She is 76 and has a pacemaker. We can't apply to sponsor her until next month when we have been here 3 years. My understanding is it will then take around 2 years before she is assigned a case officer and a lot can happen in that time.
I'm with the others - you're certainly not old and if your family are all going to be here then it's surely got to be better to try to get here than sit at home wondering about it for another x amount of years?
My understanding on the medical insurance is they won't cover you for any existing conditions, i.e. your ankle.
Mar 9th 2010, 8:26 am
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eh?
Sorry . I am a bit confused. It doesn't take much . It's me age.
What is the problem with the ankle please?
Sorry . I am a bit confused. It doesn't take much . It's me age.
What is the problem with the ankle please?
Mar 9th 2010, 9:47 am
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Well, this is a shocking thread! Not only have I found out that people in their 50's can work a computer (probably being helped by the carers), but also that the land of the long white cloud is in danger of being taken over completely by the smell of boiled cabbage and wee! Honestly, what was wrong with the good old days when you lot just buggered off to Bournemouth and had done with it? On the plus side, I should be able to set myself up for life with a mobile blue rinse service....... 
In all seriousness though, you certainly aren't too old to give the move a shot. And if it is the case that your ankle condition can be controlled at a reasonable cost, then there is no reason why it should be prohibitive to you getting into NZ?
If the option is viable for you, why not take an extended holiday to visit and see if you really like it and experience day-to-day what you would need to do to make the figures work? They very kindly let you in for 6 months on a tourist visa which should be plenty for getting a feel for the place. I realise this will be expensive, but it could be a lot cheaper than making the move and then finding out problems at your cost later?
In all seriousness though, you certainly aren't too old to give the move a shot. And if it is the case that your ankle condition can be controlled at a reasonable cost, then there is no reason why it should be prohibitive to you getting into NZ?
If the option is viable for you, why not take an extended holiday to visit and see if you really like it and experience day-to-day what you would need to do to make the figures work? They very kindly let you in for 6 months on a tourist visa which should be plenty for getting a feel for the place. I realise this will be expensive, but it could be a lot cheaper than making the move and then finding out problems at your cost later?
Mar 9th 2010, 5:29 pm
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she'll be right!
Mar 9th 2010, 6:16 pm
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Hi Bevs
The problem with my ankle the cause is really unknown,one morning got up and fell back onto the bed as could not put wait on my right foot.after various tests and xrays could not find a problem and 5 years down the road after hearing that the problem is all in my mind we forced them to do a MRI on the ankle and found a problem that a lot off Tiny bones through the ankle had not knitted properly,his was at birth,and I must have done something to completely tear them apart.they said it was like walking around with a broken ankle at the time.So I had a Sub-Talor Fusion, which invoved taking bone from the hip and fusing it in the ankle joint,this would stop any movement in the ankle (side to side) only have movement forward and back.this solved the problem.Awkward on walking on slopey paths and stoney walkways etc.Then after a few years the left ankle started playing up,so they plumpt to the same operation,but this as not worked and 5 more years and 3 operations on can walk a lot better but after a while I get quite a lot of pain and if I cannot sit down or at least take wait off my feet I start hobbling and limping.At the moment I have a new specialist, and soon to see him,but he has said as I have had so many operations already might be no good of doing any more as it could go horribly wrong and make it worse.might be a case of living with it controlled by pain relief.(watch this space)
The problem with my ankle the cause is really unknown,one morning got up and fell back onto the bed as could not put wait on my right foot.after various tests and xrays could not find a problem and 5 years down the road after hearing that the problem is all in my mind we forced them to do a MRI on the ankle and found a problem that a lot off Tiny bones through the ankle had not knitted properly,his was at birth,and I must have done something to completely tear them apart.they said it was like walking around with a broken ankle at the time.So I had a Sub-Talor Fusion, which invoved taking bone from the hip and fusing it in the ankle joint,this would stop any movement in the ankle (side to side) only have movement forward and back.this solved the problem.Awkward on walking on slopey paths and stoney walkways etc.Then after a few years the left ankle started playing up,so they plumpt to the same operation,but this as not worked and 5 more years and 3 operations on can walk a lot better but after a while I get quite a lot of pain and if I cannot sit down or at least take wait off my feet I start hobbling and limping.At the moment I have a new specialist, and soon to see him,but he has said as I have had so many operations already might be no good of doing any more as it could go horribly wrong and make it worse.might be a case of living with it controlled by pain relief.(watch this space)
Mar 9th 2010, 10:18 pm
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Well, this is a shocking thread! Not only have I found out that people in their 50's can work a computer (probably being helped by the carers), but also that the land of the long white cloud is in danger of being taken over completely by the smell of boiled cabbage and wee! Honestly, what was wrong with the good old days when you lot just buggered off to Bournemouth and had done with it?
Mar 10th 2010, 11:18 am
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And my daughter is at UNI there and she loves it there..
As for being too old....l feel quite antiquated now just looking at trade me for me old arm chair and there was l being told l'm still a youngster...(l'm in my 50's too) ...on a serious note yes l would think your son is thinking of the costs with your poorly ankle...go for it l say...
good luck to you both
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xElaine)
and she loves it there.. As for being too old....l feel quite antiquated now
just looking at trade me for me old arm chair and there was l being told l'm still a youngster...(l'm in my 50's too) ...on a serious note yes l would think your son is thinking of the costs with your poorly ankle...go for it l say...good luck to you both
Regards
xElaine)