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Old Jun 28th 2016, 1:50 am
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Still Looking at ways to get to canada and just going through the points score, without a job offer, hubby easily scores well above the 67 points. They are as follows:

English and/or French skills: 24
Education: 22
Experience (assume this means even in the UK):15
Age (32): 12
Arranged employment in Canada: 0
Adaptability (spouse and relative): 10

Total: 83

Do you think we'd pass the requirements upon the above points?
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Depends what your CRS score is and if you get invited to apply for PR
Check here Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) - tool

Few do qualify without a job offer.
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I assume you are looking at the points needed to qualify for FSW under the EE points. If so this score only confirms that you are eligible to enter the pool of potential candidates.

Once in the pool selection of applicants is made based on your CRS score (Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) - tool). Over the past year or so the points needed to be selected has been between 450-480.

Check your CRS score and this will tell you if you need a job offer to be in with a chance of being selected.
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Our score is 426 so yeah it looks like we would need a job offer. Balls. With the language test, are they all the same or is one better than the other?
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Our score is 426 so yeah it looks like we would need a job offer. Balls. With the language test, are they all the same or is one better than the other?
Or you may qualify for PNP but you need to check province by province.

It may be worth putting an application in at that score, you never know if it will fall to that (it isn't too far off).

If you are taking your language tests outside of Canada I believe only IELTS can be taken.
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Our score is 426 so yeah it looks like we would need a job offer. Balls. With the language test, are they all the same or is one better than the other?
1. Probably IELTS, (English) If you are in Canada you could consider CELPIP, which is computerized and only given in Canada.
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Originally Posted by neneromanova
With the language test, are they all the same or is one better than the other?
All language tests will be compared against the Canadian Language Benchmark (CLB) level. You can see a list of the tests and how they compare here: Language test equivalency charts

It is possible to get extra points for high language skills combined with other factors in the Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS), so CLB 9+ is probably highly desired: Express Entry – Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) Criteria

Which test suits your style of learning is hard to estimate, so it's up to you to decide the "best" one for you.

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Which test suits your style of learning is hard to estimate, so it's up to you to decide the "best" one for you.
Presumably it's got to be IELTS unless the OP wants to travel to Canada for CELPIP!
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I suppose it can't hurt to apply anyway, the worst they can say is no.

If we apply and they say yes, how long does it last for? Say we apply this month (just incase it takes years), but get accepted next month, but we can't move til 2018, will it run out before we can move and we have to apply again?
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Presumably it's got to be IELTS unless the OP wants to travel to Canada for CELPIP!
Hey, its a holiday isn't it
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Originally Posted by neneromanova
I suppose it can't hurt to apply anyway, the worst they can say is no.
They won't say no, you'll just be in the pool of applicants and won't get invited to apply for PR if you don't score high enough. You can remain in the pool for a year before your profile expires, and would then have to reapply (but at that point, your points may have gone down due to being older).

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If we apply and they say yes, how long does it last for? Say we apply this month (just incase it takes years), but get accepted next month, but we can't move til 2018, will it run out before we can move and we have to apply again?
If you applied this month (unlikely unless you've already got your ECA and IELTS - 2/3 months time is more realistic!) and you got selected from the pool immediately, and could submit your PR app quite quickly, then you'd get PR around the end of the year or beginning of 2017 (it takes approx 6 months from when you submit your actual PR app). Once you've got PR, you then have a year from the date of your medical to 'land' in Canada to activate it, and once that's done you then have to spend 2 years out of every 5 in Canada to maintain your PR status. So essentially, once you get PR you'd have 3-4 years before you actually had to move permanently.

HTH.

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If you applied this month (unlikely unless you've already got your ECA and IELTS - 2/3 months time is more realistic!) and you got selected from the pool immediately, and could submit your PR app quite quickly, then you'd get PR around the end of the year or beginning of 2017 (it takes approx 6 months from when you submit your actual PR app). Once you've got PR, you then have a year from the date of your medical to 'land' in Canada to activate it, and once that's done you then have to spend 2 years out of every 5 in Canada to maintain your PR status. So essentially, once you get PR you'd have 3-4 years before you actually had to move permanently.

HTH.
So we could "land" next year at easter when we have our holiday, it activates and we then have 2/3 years to move. (not that it would move that quickly. ) Thank you. It's given me a lot more to think about

Just looked at the IELTS, Do I take the General Training or Academic test?
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Originally Posted by neneromanova
So we could "land" next year at easter when we have our holiday, it activates and we then have 2/3 years to move. (not that it would move that quickly. ) Thank you. It's given me a lot more to think about
Yes, although in all honestly you're not likely to be anywhere near landing by then! If you can get your IELTS and ECA sorted by about August/September, then you might get selected from the pool next year if the points drop low enough (they've never gone below 450), so probably the end of next year is more realistic.

When does hubby turn 33? As he'll lose another 5 points at that point. So definitely try and apply before then if you can (although points will drop anyway if he's still in the pool at that point, but at least it would give you as much chance as possible on as many points as possible). Also, have you checked your points score? Not sure if you're younger or not, but if so you might find you score higher and would be better off as the principal applicant.

Any way of getting the highest scorers points up? Is job hunting an option maybe?

Originally Posted by neneromanova
Just looked at the IELTS, Do I take the General Training or Academic test?
General. Language testing—Skilled immigrants (Express Entry)

Both of you will need to do it to maximise your points (ditto the ECA), unless one of you can find a job offer/LMIA and therefore score enough to be selected from the pool instantly.

Good luck!
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Hubby is 33 next May, I'm 30 in February, But I only did 1 year of college whereas he has a degree with 3 years college so adds more points than I do. It's all so hard! lol.
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Originally Posted by neneromanova
Hubby is 33 next May, I'm 30 in February, But I only did 1 year of college whereas he has a degree with 3 years college so adds more points than I do. It's all so hard! lol.
OK, so he's definitely best off as the principal applicant then and you'll just have to hope and pray that points drop enough for you to be selected before May! Or send him off job hunting.......

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