Work experience, proof of
Mar 19th 2004, 3:55 am
#1
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Work experience, proof of
Together with my appl. for PR, I duly included letters of reference
with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
cards, etc.
Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
years.
Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
cards, etc.
Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
years.
Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
Mar 19th 2004, 5:49 am
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Re: Work experience, proof of
They won't take such letter at their face value because there are too many
applicants who provide the same fraudulently. Self-employment work
experience is the hardest one to prove and unfortunately burden of proof is
on you. No conclusive proof = no experience counted.
This is why you have been asked for additional evidence to substantiate your
claim and to show independently that your reference letters are not simply
made up just to assist you in the application process. It is quite normal
for CIC to ask for such evidence in case of self-employment work experience.
If you were paid by checks then you must have copies of those checks (that
will show who the client is). If you didn't declare such income in your tax
returns then CIC may assume that you didn't have that income to start with.
I don't know what evidence other than one requested you may have to
substantiate your claims - you are the only one who knows what you have and
don't have. You need to take a look at the matter from processing officer's
perspective and then make sure that you provide enough evidence to
substantiate your claims. If you are unable to prove experience then it
won't be counted, sorry.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Together with my appl. for PR, I duly included letters of reference
> with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
> employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
> cards, etc.
> Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
> tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
> been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
> funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
> records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
> years.
> Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
> are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
> blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
> paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
> work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
applicants who provide the same fraudulently. Self-employment work
experience is the hardest one to prove and unfortunately burden of proof is
on you. No conclusive proof = no experience counted.
This is why you have been asked for additional evidence to substantiate your
claim and to show independently that your reference letters are not simply
made up just to assist you in the application process. It is quite normal
for CIC to ask for such evidence in case of self-employment work experience.
If you were paid by checks then you must have copies of those checks (that
will show who the client is). If you didn't declare such income in your tax
returns then CIC may assume that you didn't have that income to start with.
I don't know what evidence other than one requested you may have to
substantiate your claims - you are the only one who knows what you have and
don't have. You need to take a look at the matter from processing officer's
perspective and then make sure that you provide enough evidence to
substantiate your claims. If you are unable to prove experience then it
won't be counted, sorry.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Together with my appl. for PR, I duly included letters of reference
> with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
> employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
> cards, etc.
> Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
> tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
> been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
> funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
> records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
> years.
> Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
> are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
> blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
> paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
> work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
Mar 23rd 2004, 3:39 am
#3
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Re: Work experience, proof of
Mr. Miller: thanks for your very helpful answer. When I started my
application for PR, what was farthest from my mind was that my work
exp. would be doubted (I have 20+ yrs exp. in my field, but of course
not all in the last 10). However, after your msg and rereading of
requirements I realized that proving that to CIC, is another matter.
I am doing my homework, and have managed to dig out contracts and
receipts from former clients, as well as dusty tax returns. It seems I
can truthfully prove 4+ yrs (which is all I need) with what I can
retrieve.
Nevertheless, I cannot prove (aside from ref. ltrs.) some facts I
claimed initially in my application. Should I say nothing about it, or
just leave unproved claims to their best judgment, or rather write
that such and such claims of self-employment/consulting be better
scraped? Per your reply, I am now concerned about my application
looking fraudulent or frivolous, which it isn't.
"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<XJw6c.253066$Hy3.85421@edtnps89>...
> They won't take such letter at their face value because there are too many
> applicants who provide the same fraudulently. Self-employment work
> experience is the hardest one to prove and unfortunately burden of proof is
> on you. No conclusive proof = no experience counted.
>
> This is why you have been asked for additional evidence to substantiate your
> claim and to show independently that your reference letters are not simply
> made up just to assist you in the application process. It is quite normal
> for CIC to ask for such evidence in case of self-employment work experience.
> If you were paid by checks then you must have copies of those checks (that
> will show who the client is). If you didn't declare such income in your tax
> returns then CIC may assume that you didn't have that income to start with.
>
> I don't know what evidence other than one requested you may have to
> substantiate your claims - you are the only one who knows what you have and
> don't have. You need to take a look at the matter from processing officer's
> perspective and then make sure that you provide enough evidence to
> substantiate your claims. If you are unable to prove experience then it
> won't be counted, sorry.
>
> --
>
> ../..
>
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> "MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Together with my appl. for PR, I duly included letters of reference
> > with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
> > employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
> > cards, etc.
> >
> > Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
> > tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
> > been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
> > funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
> > records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
> > years.
> >
> > Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
> > are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
> > blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
> > paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
> > work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
application for PR, what was farthest from my mind was that my work
exp. would be doubted (I have 20+ yrs exp. in my field, but of course
not all in the last 10). However, after your msg and rereading of
requirements I realized that proving that to CIC, is another matter.
I am doing my homework, and have managed to dig out contracts and
receipts from former clients, as well as dusty tax returns. It seems I
can truthfully prove 4+ yrs (which is all I need) with what I can
retrieve.
Nevertheless, I cannot prove (aside from ref. ltrs.) some facts I
claimed initially in my application. Should I say nothing about it, or
just leave unproved claims to their best judgment, or rather write
that such and such claims of self-employment/consulting be better
scraped? Per your reply, I am now concerned about my application
looking fraudulent or frivolous, which it isn't.
"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<XJw6c.253066$Hy3.85421@edtnps89>...
> They won't take such letter at their face value because there are too many
> applicants who provide the same fraudulently. Self-employment work
> experience is the hardest one to prove and unfortunately burden of proof is
> on you. No conclusive proof = no experience counted.
>
> This is why you have been asked for additional evidence to substantiate your
> claim and to show independently that your reference letters are not simply
> made up just to assist you in the application process. It is quite normal
> for CIC to ask for such evidence in case of self-employment work experience.
> If you were paid by checks then you must have copies of those checks (that
> will show who the client is). If you didn't declare such income in your tax
> returns then CIC may assume that you didn't have that income to start with.
>
> I don't know what evidence other than one requested you may have to
> substantiate your claims - you are the only one who knows what you have and
> don't have. You need to take a look at the matter from processing officer's
> perspective and then make sure that you provide enough evidence to
> substantiate your claims. If you are unable to prove experience then it
> won't be counted, sorry.
>
> --
>
> ../..
>
> Andrew Miller
> Immigration Consultant
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> email: [email protected]
> (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> "MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Together with my appl. for PR, I duly included letters of reference
> > with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
> > employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
> > cards, etc.
> >
> > Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
> > tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
> > been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
> > funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
> > records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
> > years.
> >
> > Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
> > are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
> > blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
> > paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
> > work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
Mar 23rd 2004, 3:48 am
#4
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Work experience, proof of
Prove what you can and clearly explain why you can't prove the rest. Do not
leave any fact without proof or explanation - all should always be
addressed. At least you will show that you are not trying to hide anything.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mr. Miller: thanks for your very helpful answer. When I started my
> application for PR, what was farthest from my mind was that my work
> exp. would be doubted (I have 20+ yrs exp. in my field, but of course
> not all in the last 10). However, after your msg and rereading of
> requirements I realized that proving that to CIC, is another matter.
> I am doing my homework, and have managed to dig out contracts and
> receipts from former clients, as well as dusty tax returns. It seems I
> can truthfully prove 4+ yrs (which is all I need) with what I can
> retrieve.
> Nevertheless, I cannot prove (aside from ref. ltrs.) some facts I
> claimed initially in my application. Should I say nothing about it, or
> just leave unproved claims to their best judgment, or rather write
> that such and such claims of self-employment/consulting be better
> scraped? Per your reply, I am now concerned about my application
> looking fraudulent or frivolous, which it isn't.
> "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<XJw6c.253066$Hy3.85421@edtnps89>...
> > They won't take such letter at their face value because there are too
many
> > applicants who provide the same fraudulently. Self-employment work
> > experience is the hardest one to prove and unfortunately burden of proof
is
> > on you. No conclusive proof = no experience counted.
> >
> > This is why you have been asked for additional evidence to substantiate
your
> > claim and to show independently that your reference letters are not
simply
> > made up just to assist you in the application process. It is quite
normal
> > for CIC to ask for such evidence in case of self-employment work
experience.
> > If you were paid by checks then you must have copies of those checks
(that
> > will show who the client is). If you didn't declare such income in your
tax
> > returns then CIC may assume that you didn't have that income to start
with.
> >
> > I don't know what evidence other than one requested you may have to
> > substantiate your claims - you are the only one who knows what you have
and
> > don't have. You need to take a look at the matter from processing
officer's
> > perspective and then make sure that you provide enough evidence to
> > substantiate your claims. If you are unable to prove experience then it
> > won't be counted, sorry.
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > "MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Together with my appl. for PR, I duly included letters of reference
> > > with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
> > > employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
> > > cards, etc.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
> > > tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
> > > been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
> > > funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
> > > records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
> > > are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
> > > blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
> > > paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
> > > work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
leave any fact without proof or explanation - all should always be
addressed. At least you will show that you are not trying to hide anything.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mr. Miller: thanks for your very helpful answer. When I started my
> application for PR, what was farthest from my mind was that my work
> exp. would be doubted (I have 20+ yrs exp. in my field, but of course
> not all in the last 10). However, after your msg and rereading of
> requirements I realized that proving that to CIC, is another matter.
> I am doing my homework, and have managed to dig out contracts and
> receipts from former clients, as well as dusty tax returns. It seems I
> can truthfully prove 4+ yrs (which is all I need) with what I can
> retrieve.
> Nevertheless, I cannot prove (aside from ref. ltrs.) some facts I
> claimed initially in my application. Should I say nothing about it, or
> just leave unproved claims to their best judgment, or rather write
> that such and such claims of self-employment/consulting be better
> scraped? Per your reply, I am now concerned about my application
> looking fraudulent or frivolous, which it isn't.
> "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<XJw6c.253066$Hy3.85421@edtnps89>...
> > They won't take such letter at their face value because there are too
many
> > applicants who provide the same fraudulently. Self-employment work
> > experience is the hardest one to prove and unfortunately burden of proof
is
> > on you. No conclusive proof = no experience counted.
> >
> > This is why you have been asked for additional evidence to substantiate
your
> > claim and to show independently that your reference letters are not
simply
> > made up just to assist you in the application process. It is quite
normal
> > for CIC to ask for such evidence in case of self-employment work
experience.
> > If you were paid by checks then you must have copies of those checks
(that
> > will show who the client is). If you didn't declare such income in your
tax
> > returns then CIC may assume that you didn't have that income to start
with.
> >
> > I don't know what evidence other than one requested you may have to
> > substantiate your claims - you are the only one who knows what you have
and
> > don't have. You need to take a look at the matter from processing
officer's
> > perspective and then make sure that you provide enough evidence to
> > substantiate your claims. If you are unable to prove experience then it
> > won't be counted, sorry.
> >
> > --
> >
> > ../..
> >
> > Andrew Miller
> > Immigration Consultant
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > email: [email protected]
> > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > "MAX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Together with my appl. for PR, I duly included letters of reference
> > > with job duties, salaries, equivalence to full-time job (I am self
> > > employed and my experience is as a consultant, thus no 9-5er), biz
> > > cards, etc.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, the IO contacted me and asked for "payment receipts" and
> > > tax returns. Of the first I have absolutely none, since I have not
> > > been on a payroll: in all cases, I was just paid by check or received
> > > funds through wire transfers. Tax returns: I have only incomplete
> > > records of them from the two countries I have lived in the past 10
> > > years.
> > >
> > > Questions: (1) why they didn't take those letters at full value?; they
> > > are legitimate, they can call the signees (granted, they are not from
> > > blue-chip corps.) (2) if I give an explanation as in the previous
> > > paragraph, will they tend to scrape out the corresponding years of
> > > work exp.? (3) what other proof can I exhibit?
