Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
May 15th 2003, 4:03 am
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Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
find this outrageous too?
I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
rule.
If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
find this outrageous too?
I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
rule.
If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
May 15th 2003, 4:11 am
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
Hi Mary
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
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> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
Yes
PMM
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
Yes
PMM
May 15th 2003, 4:26 am
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
Mary Holiday wrote:
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer,
> doctor... for two years to get a passport. . . . If you
> don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
Not quite. There is an alternate procedure (called a "Statutory
Declaration in Lieu of Guarantor") available for applicants who
can't get an eligible guarantor for their passport application.
Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.richw.org
*NOTE: I've lived in both Canada and the US and have dual citizenship.
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer,
> doctor... for two years to get a passport. . . . If you
> don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
Not quite. There is an alternate procedure (called a "Statutory
Declaration in Lieu of Guarantor") available for applicants who
can't get an eligible guarantor for their passport application.
Rich Wales [email protected] http://www.richw.org
*NOTE: I've lived in both Canada and the US and have dual citizenship.
May 15th 2003, 4:28 am
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
It's not outrageous at all. It's only necessary. The Canadian passport is a
very strong (worldwide) travel document. Many terrorists around the world
would like to get their hands on it. That's why any Government of this
country, either is the Liberals or the PC, is doing everything to prevent
any misused of the Canadian passport.
And you don't have to pay any of the people listed by the Government, but
they MUST know you personally. The list with such guarantors is pretty
large, 90% chances that everybody would not have any problems meeting the
requirements.
By the time I got my first Canadian passport I did not know anybody on that
list, so I went to a Public Notary and the person over there just did all
the paperwork that helped me getting the passport. No big deal, no hassle.
And I did not complain at all!!!
And once again, like it or not, this is one of the rules of the land, we
immigrants should not start complaining about all these rules or laws we
found when we got here. Who does not like it, he/she is just free to find
another country where will be easier to get a passport.
I, as a Canadian citizen (immigrated to Canada in '92) fully agree with the
current requirements for obtaining the Canadian passport.
Chris in Toronto
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
very strong (worldwide) travel document. Many terrorists around the world
would like to get their hands on it. That's why any Government of this
country, either is the Liberals or the PC, is doing everything to prevent
any misused of the Canadian passport.
And you don't have to pay any of the people listed by the Government, but
they MUST know you personally. The list with such guarantors is pretty
large, 90% chances that everybody would not have any problems meeting the
requirements.
By the time I got my first Canadian passport I did not know anybody on that
list, so I went to a Public Notary and the person over there just did all
the paperwork that helped me getting the passport. No big deal, no hassle.
And I did not complain at all!!!
And once again, like it or not, this is one of the rules of the land, we
immigrants should not start complaining about all these rules or laws we
found when we got here. Who does not like it, he/she is just free to find
another country where will be easier to get a passport.
I, as a Canadian citizen (immigrated to Canada in '92) fully agree with the
current requirements for obtaining the Canadian passport.
Chris in Toronto
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
May 15th 2003, 6:59 am
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
Canadian passport belongs to Canadian government. They can protect its
integrity however it wants.
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
integrity however it wants.
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
May 15th 2003, 9:07 am
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
On 14 May 2003 21:03:17 -0700, the renowned [email protected]
(Mary Holiday) wrote:
>In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
>for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
>find this outrageous too?
>I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
>I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
>the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
>rule.
>If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
>If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
>Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
Absolutely. A Canadian passport is a valuable document that lasts for
years- it should not be really easy to get. The guarantor is not just
window dressing, External Affairs actually checks with the
professional associations of the doctor, engineers, etc. for every
single passport to ensure they are members in good standing (and thus
subject to disciplinary measures by their association were they to
knowingly sign an incorrect application). They are not allowed to
charge money for signing the form, of course.
As someone else pointed out, there is the notary route for the few who
cannot meet the requirements.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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(Mary Holiday) wrote:
>In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
>for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
>find this outrageous too?
>I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
>I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
>the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
>rule.
>If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
>If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
>Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
Absolutely. A Canadian passport is a valuable document that lasts for
years- it should not be really easy to get. The guarantor is not just
window dressing, External Affairs actually checks with the
professional associations of the doctor, engineers, etc. for every
single passport to ensure they are members in good standing (and thus
subject to disciplinary measures by their association were they to
knowingly sign an incorrect application). They are not allowed to
charge money for signing the form, of course.
As someone else pointed out, there is the notary route for the few who
cannot meet the requirements.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
[email protected] Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
May 15th 2003, 10:55 am
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
Mary Holiday wrote:
>
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
>
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
>
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
>
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
It is absolutely reasonable. The Canadian passport is a very well
respected travel document that because of its high level of
international acceptance, put it on a "most wanted" by forgers list.
It went through a phase of being commonly forged during the 1970s and so
far more restrictions were placed on getting a passport.
Most people know doctors and members of the clergy or signing officers
of a bank, therefore the chances you don't know someone acceptable are
amazingly small, but if you don't then there is the declaration which is
a nuisance but not impossible.
One of the reasons for this is that the US has much tighter control on
identity documents than Canada and in particular certain provinces a
birth certificate can be issued from information provided by a church,
making it very easy to cheat. That said, if an American cannot provide
a proof of ID document, he must appear at a passport office with a
witness who does have the needed proof of ID. That said, I'm very
surprised that the US does NOT have tighter controls on obtaining
passports ... they have such tight controls on so many other items of
identity ... like getting a driver's license requires lots of ID.
>
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
>
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
>
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
>
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
It is absolutely reasonable. The Canadian passport is a very well
respected travel document that because of its high level of
international acceptance, put it on a "most wanted" by forgers list.
It went through a phase of being commonly forged during the 1970s and so
far more restrictions were placed on getting a passport.
Most people know doctors and members of the clergy or signing officers
of a bank, therefore the chances you don't know someone acceptable are
amazingly small, but if you don't then there is the declaration which is
a nuisance but not impossible.
One of the reasons for this is that the US has much tighter control on
identity documents than Canada and in particular certain provinces a
birth certificate can be issued from information provided by a church,
making it very easy to cheat. That said, if an American cannot provide
a proof of ID document, he must appear at a passport office with a
witness who does have the needed proof of ID. That said, I'm very
surprised that the US does NOT have tighter controls on obtaining
passports ... they have such tight controls on so many other items of
identity ... like getting a driver's license requires lots of ID.
May 15th 2003, 2:48 pm
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Yes it's an inconvienience but anything as valuable as a passsport shouldn't
be easy to get?
I personally don't like the idea of going to a notary because they are not
equipped or trained to spot forged documents and dishonest applicants.
OT: Along with passports provincial health cards are high on the shopping
lists of most forgers.
A lot of people who at one time have lived in Canada legally have been know
to come back here for medical care and tests.
Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
bundle every year.
Jimbo
"S B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mary Holiday wrote:
> >
> > In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> > for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> > find this outrageous too?
> >
> > I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> > I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> > the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> > rule.
> >
> > If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> > If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> >
> > Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
> It is absolutely reasonable. The Canadian passport is a very well
> respected travel document that because of its high level of
> international acceptance, put it on a "most wanted" by forgers list.
> It went through a phase of being commonly forged during the 1970s and so
> far more restrictions were placed on getting a passport.
> Most people know doctors and members of the clergy or signing officers
> of a bank, therefore the chances you don't know someone acceptable are
> amazingly small, but if you don't then there is the declaration which is
> a nuisance but not impossible.
> One of the reasons for this is that the US has much tighter control on
> identity documents than Canada and in particular certain provinces a
> birth certificate can be issued from information provided by a church,
> making it very easy to cheat. That said, if an American cannot provide
> a proof of ID document, he must appear at a passport office with a
> witness who does have the needed proof of ID. That said, I'm very
> surprised that the US does NOT have tighter controls on obtaining
> passports ... they have such tight controls on so many other items of
> identity ... like getting a driver's license requires lots of ID.
be easy to get?
I personally don't like the idea of going to a notary because they are not
equipped or trained to spot forged documents and dishonest applicants.
OT: Along with passports provincial health cards are high on the shopping
lists of most forgers.
A lot of people who at one time have lived in Canada legally have been know
to come back here for medical care and tests.
Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
bundle every year.
Jimbo
"S B" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mary Holiday wrote:
> >
> > In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> > for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> > find this outrageous too?
> >
> > I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> > I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> > the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> > rule.
> >
> > If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> > If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> >
> > Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
> It is absolutely reasonable. The Canadian passport is a very well
> respected travel document that because of its high level of
> international acceptance, put it on a "most wanted" by forgers list.
> It went through a phase of being commonly forged during the 1970s and so
> far more restrictions were placed on getting a passport.
> Most people know doctors and members of the clergy or signing officers
> of a bank, therefore the chances you don't know someone acceptable are
> amazingly small, but if you don't then there is the declaration which is
> a nuisance but not impossible.
> One of the reasons for this is that the US has much tighter control on
> identity documents than Canada and in particular certain provinces a
> birth certificate can be issued from information provided by a church,
> making it very easy to cheat. That said, if an American cannot provide
> a proof of ID document, he must appear at a passport office with a
> witness who does have the needed proof of ID. That said, I'm very
> surprised that the US does NOT have tighter controls on obtaining
> passports ... they have such tight controls on so many other items of
> identity ... like getting a driver's license requires lots of ID.
May 15th 2003, 3:14 pm
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
I'm ok with it...there is good reason why a Canadian passport is one of the
most valuable documents in the world.
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
most valuable documents in the world.
"Mary Holiday" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
May 15th 2003, 3:31 pm
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
On Thu, 15 May 2003 10:48:05 -0400, the renowned "Jimbo"
wrote:
>Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
>here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
>bundle every year.
I think they are probably electronically validated at each use now
like a Visa transaction. That's why the health care people insist on
the physical card. But, as Canada doesn't monitor the comings and
goings of her citizens in any trackable way, I don't know how they
would know that someone had left until MUCH, MUCH later.
Of course not notifying OHIP, say, of your departure might be taken as
maintaining residency, which could have serious tax implications in
some cases. It's quite possible to have residency for tax purposes in
more than one jurisdiction simultaneously. 8-(
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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wrote:
>Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
>here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
>bundle every year.
I think they are probably electronically validated at each use now
like a Visa transaction. That's why the health care people insist on
the physical card. But, as Canada doesn't monitor the comings and
goings of her citizens in any trackable way, I don't know how they
would know that someone had left until MUCH, MUCH later.
Of course not notifying OHIP, say, of your departure might be taken as
maintaining residency, which could have serious tax implications in
some cases. It's quite possible to have residency for tax purposes in
more than one jurisdiction simultaneously. 8-(
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
[email protected] Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
May 15th 2003, 4:57 pm
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 May 2003 10:48:05 -0400, the renowned "Jimbo"
> wrote:
>
> >Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
> >here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
> >bundle every year.
>
> I think they are probably electronically validated at each use now
> like a Visa transaction. That's why the health care people insist on
> the physical card. But, as Canada doesn't monitor the comings and
> goings of her citizens in any trackable way, I don't know how they
> would know that someone had left until MUCH, MUCH later.
>
> Of course not notifying OHIP, say, of your departure might be taken as
> maintaining residency, which could have serious tax implications in
> some cases. It's quite possible to have residency for tax purposes in
> more than one jurisdiction simultaneously. 8-(
>
> Best regards,
> Spehro Pefhany
This is one of the reasons they have expiry dates.
>
> On Thu, 15 May 2003 10:48:05 -0400, the renowned "Jimbo"
> wrote:
>
> >Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
> >here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
> >bundle every year.
>
> I think they are probably electronically validated at each use now
> like a Visa transaction. That's why the health care people insist on
> the physical card. But, as Canada doesn't monitor the comings and
> goings of her citizens in any trackable way, I don't know how they
> would know that someone had left until MUCH, MUCH later.
>
> Of course not notifying OHIP, say, of your departure might be taken as
> maintaining residency, which could have serious tax implications in
> some cases. It's quite possible to have residency for tax purposes in
> more than one jurisdiction simultaneously. 8-(
>
> Best regards,
> Spehro Pefhany
This is one of the reasons they have expiry dates.
May 16th 2003, 1:21 pm
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[email protected] (Mary Holiday) wrote in message news:...
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
>
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
>
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
>
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
I don't know, but posting in California newsgroups (ca.general and
ca.politics) is probably not going to get very many answers. Try can.*
groups.
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
>
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
>
> If you know the right people, you can get your passport fast and easy.
> If you don't know the right people, well then don't travel.
>
> Do Canadians really think this is reasonable?
I don't know, but posting in California newsgroups (ca.general and
ca.politics) is probably not going to get very many answers. Try can.*
groups.
May 16th 2003, 2:32 pm
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
[email protected] (Mary Holiday) wrote:
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
>
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
I would be surprised if the USA doesn't have such a rule. The UK,
Ireland, Spain, Canada, Australia all have such a rule. Do you know
why it is?
It is so that people can't lie about their identity.
It is necessary.
And don't try to tell me Canadians don't cheat. Just say Ben Johnson.
> In Canada, we need to know the right people, like a lawyer, doctor...
> for two years to get a passport. Is it just me, or do other Canadians
> find this outrageous too?
>
> I thought only corrupted third-world countries would do such a thing.
> I really wonder what other countries require their citizens to know
> the "elite class" to get a passport. I know USA doesn't have such a
> rule.
I would be surprised if the USA doesn't have such a rule. The UK,
Ireland, Spain, Canada, Australia all have such a rule. Do you know
why it is?
It is so that people can't lie about their identity.
It is necessary.
And don't try to tell me Canadians don't cheat. Just say Ben Johnson.
May 16th 2003, 5:06 pm
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>
> A lot of people who at one time have lived in Canada legally have been know
> to come back here for medical care and tests.
>
> Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
> here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
> bundle every year.
In Ontario, for the past several years anyway, health cards
have been issued with expiration dates. Every five years
you must go to the Ministry of Health office to renew your
health card.
> A lot of people who at one time have lived in Canada legally have been know
> to come back here for medical care and tests.
>
> Apparently we don't ask for the cards back when a person no longer resides
> here. Hope that changes soon because health care fraud cost canadians a
> bundle every year.
In Ontario, for the past several years anyway, health cards
have been issued with expiration dates. Every five years
you must go to the Ministry of Health office to renew your
health card.
May 16th 2003, 5:09 pm
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Re: Why do we need a guarantor to get a passport???
>
> This is one of the reasons they have expiry dates.
The newer green Ontario photo health cards have expiry
dates. But do the old style red and white cards have them?
What about the health cards in other provinces. Do they have
expiry dates, or photos? (Quebec does put photos on their
health cards).
Stephen Gallagher
> This is one of the reasons they have expiry dates.
The newer green Ontario photo health cards have expiry
dates. But do the old style red and white cards have them?
What about the health cards in other provinces. Do they have
expiry dates, or photos? (Quebec does put photos on their
health cards).
Stephen Gallagher