immigrants

Do you know when will the skilled workers preferred occupation list announced? And I want to ask, do the applicants apply skilled workers after 2008.02.27 and his occupation not in preferred occupation list will be reject the applicaton automatically, or just long waiting only?

Andrew Miller

Nobody knows yet. Parliament was just dissolved and general election is on Oct 14. After that we'll have new (or renewed old) government and things sill slowly start moving from then.

The already announced rules clearly state that applications submitted on or after Feb 27 2008 and without occupations in high demand or PNP or arranged employment will be returned without processing. Even many applications with occupation in high demand will be returned if they won't make the cut into particular year visa quota and occupation's presence on the list in the following year is questionable. Some cases with high demand occupations that won't make the cut for particular year may be retained for the following year quota if it will be known that occupation remains on the list in following years. But if there will be substantially more applications with high demand occupation than annual quota for particular category then we'll see a lot of them returned anyway as government clearly indicated that they will not allow for new backlog buildup.

Longer wait applies only to pre-Feb 27 2008 applications without high demand occupations.

Get a job in Canada and apply with arranged employment or PNP if you really want to move here.

immigrants

Thank you for your reply.

I want to ask, do IT related occupation may be high demand in Canada?

Andrew Miller

Some yes, some not. "IT related occupations" is too vague description.

immigrants

Here is some sample, thank you:

Computer Programmers and Interactive Media Developers (2174)
Information Systems Analysts and Consultants (2171)

chelsea2009

Hi Andrew,

I called CIC , the following ph number 613-954-1064(CIC) on last friday and the lady picked up. She said that since C-50 is already made law, fall election will not affect and the instructions may be announced before october 14. your views on it?
Thnx.

Andrew Miller

Many IT occupations are in demand in some Provinces and in good supply in others. Which will make too the national list is still unknown and I won't try to guess.

The one thing is sure though - if occupation makes to the national list it means it is in demand in all Provinces. it also means that in some Provinces such occupation is in critical shortage and there are plenty of jobs waiting.

So, why you wait for the list? Look for the job, get work permit and apply with arranged employment - your case will be processed faster than those without jobs but on the list.

If you can't find the job then I suggest you rethink your desire to move to Canada.

Andrew Miller

Yes, it is the law, but Liberals already stated that they will repeal it if they win the election. So, everything is in the open for now.

msi geek

Have they announced the occupations that will receive priority processing?

Andrew Miller

First - national list of occupations in high demand is not published yet.

Second - it is not about priority processing, it is about processing at all. Applications received on or after Feb 27 2008 with occupations not on the list will be returned without processing, period.

msi geek

Really?

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...q-impact06.asp

Impact of the changes
Q6) Isn’t this closing the door to immigration?

Not at all. Canada remains open to immigration, and anyone can apply to immigrate. We have received additional money for processing so that we can meet the growing demand for temporary foreign workers while ensuring that we meet our targets for permanent residents.

There are flexibilities that allow Canada to be more selective—to take certain candidates quickly, hold off on some applications, and return others. This shouldn’t deter good candidates from applying. In fact, the old system deterred many well-qualified skilled workers from applying because they had to wait so long. The end result of the changes will be reduced wait times and improved service.

Immigration is important in meeting Canada’s labour market needs. In the past couple of years, Canada accepted a record number of permanent and temporary residents.

Andrew Miller

Really.

You obviously didn't bother to read the sticky thread at the top of the forum titled **** Amendments to IRPA as tabled ****.

Read the thread, read the law, digest it and then you may see the light...

Also from the same source your link came from:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...-faq-how03.asp

Q3) Does this mean I can no longer apply?

No. Canada remains open to immigration, and anyone can apply to immigrate. The legislative amendments give the Department the flexibility to be more selective—to take candidates from certain categories of occupations quickly, hold off on some applications, and return others. That shouldn’t deter good candidates from applying, unlike the old system which did deter many well-qualified skilled workers from applying because they had to wait so long.

And as obvious as it can be in the text you just quoted yourself:


Do you see it now?

msi geek

Yes - returning certain applications means the points systems has lost its intended purpose - an applicant's occupation will decide the fate of his application.

A person's past work experience can fall under several different occupations - again a greyish area.

Andrew Miller

Points system lost it's purpose long ago - back in September 2003 when Liberals for purely political reasons lowered pass mark from quite good 75 points level down to 67 and by doing so they caused the backlog mess we are in now.

But now we'll have to wait and see if there will be anything "grayish". We don't know yet if one can claim occupation without having documented education/training in such occupation. As for claiming years of work experience it is permissible, but how it will work in claiming having an occupation itself I don't know yet.

msi geek

For example, I hold a Bachelors Degree in Electronics Engineering, however, my work experience over the last 5 years has been different IT roles (both permanent and contract jobs) - different job titles, designations, roles, etc.

A person doing the same job in different companies carries a different job title.

What is my occupation???

Kindly refer the link for application form:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kit...mm0008e_SW.pdf

Question 19 and Question 26

So, an applicant can put the current occupation as something from the list in shortage/demand and get points for work experience in another occupation.

Occupation can also be different from educational qualifications. Also, most employers give a reference/experience letter as per the official job title or designation - not as per Canada's NOC list.

So, after 27 Feb 2008, no permament residency application under federal skilled program has been processed. Have all new applications been put on hold?