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Old Dec 9th 2003, 2:07 am
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Gagan
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Hi ,
This is to share some of my thoughts on immigration . I applied
in march 2002 from cic delhi. It seems it may take more than 2 years
before something will out at the speed they are processing. Meanwhile
I find that UK have recently ease the points system condition. I view
both as english speaking developed country.
As per UN report , the average approx per capital income of
person
in luxamburg -- 41,000 US dollor
in UK is 25,000 US dollor.
in canada 28,000 US dollor.
in USA - 35,000 US dollor
Austratlia - 20,000 US dollor
Newesland - 17,000 US dollor
India -- 2200 US dollor
This figures certainly give some idea of the standard of living in
each country.


My question is to people sitting in UK as why they are applying
& waiting so desparatly for canadian immigration. The standard of
living in both countries seems to same. I am asking. Since now I am
seriously thinking to apply for UK immigration. and forget about
canada. But seeing so many people applyng from UK make bit confued if
I am making right decision.
Please comment.

Regards.
 
Old Dec 9th 2003, 2:30 am
  #2  
Webcrawler
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Default Re: waiting waiting now thinking of HSMP

Gagan --

The average US $$ in a country is not the only criteria why people want to
immigrate.
There are scores of other reasons - being closer to family, getting married,
some super job offer, and many others.
There is also the factor of quality of life, which is very different from
the standard of living.
Quality of life takes into account things like crime rates, accident rates,
racial equality, no discrimination on the basis of sex or religion, etc.
which standard of living doesn't.
For instance, in the USA, you can say that the standard of living in LA or
NY is higher than in say Bismark, ND or Idahol Falls, ID.
However, for a lot of people, Idaho provides better quality of life.

If you feel that average USD is the only criteria that matters to you, sure
go ahead and apply where you think best.
You have your priorities and make decisions accordingly - nothing wrong with
it.

As for UK, allow me to forewarn you that things may not be as rosy as you
think.
Cost of living is extremely high in the UK.
Buying a decent house, raising a faimily, etc. can be very expensive.
The social sector is also being cut back significantly, health care is not
as good as it once used to be, etc.

Do your research well - average per capita incomes are meaningless.

Hope this answers your questions.

"Gagan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi ,
    > This is to share some of my thoughts on immigration . I applied
    > in march 2002 from cic delhi. It seems it may take more than 2 years
    > before something will out at the speed they are processing. Meanwhile
    > I find that UK have recently ease the points system condition. I view
    > both as english speaking developed country.
    > As per UN report , the average approx per capital income of
    > person
    > in luxamburg -- 41,000 US dollor
    > in UK is 25,000 US dollor.
    > in canada 28,000 US dollor.
    > in USA - 35,000 US dollor
    > Austratlia - 20,000 US dollor
    > Newesland - 17,000 US dollor
    > India -- 2200 US dollor
    > This figures certainly give some idea of the standard of living in
    > each country.
    > My question is to people sitting in UK as why they are applying
    > & waiting so desparatly for canadian immigration. The standard of
    > living in both countries seems to same. I am asking. Since now I am
    > seriously thinking to apply for UK immigration. and forget about
    > canada. But seeing so many people applyng from UK make bit confued if
    > I am making right decision.
    > Please comment.
    > Regards.
 
Old Dec 9th 2003, 7:58 am
  #3  
Kanwarjit Singh
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gagan is right per capita is not only the denominator of detreming to
apply for immigration. If u think canada its not just because of
28000$ ppl are coming here its because the cost of living is very low
quality of life which includes job opportunities, health,
discrimination and crime u have to take all these things into account
and make a decision. For example i am living in edmonton in canada, if
you compare money and other things what u earn here for example if
40000$ a year that is equivalent to earning 80000$ in california
(close to silicon valley) because with $300000 the kind of house u can
buy here will take u almost 600000$ or more then that in california so
u have take all these factors into consideration.
I would suggest think 4 times not twice if u want to apply to england.
bye
"WebCrawler" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > Gagan --
    >
    > The average US $$ in a country is not the only criteria why people want to
    > immigrate.
    > There are scores of other reasons - being closer to family, getting married,
    > some super job offer, and many others.
    > There is also the factor of quality of life, which is very different from
    > the standard of living.
    > Quality of life takes into account things like crime rates, accident rates,
    > racial equality, no discrimination on the basis of sex or religion, etc.
    > which standard of living doesn't.
    > For instance, in the USA, you can say that the standard of living in LA or
    > NY is higher than in say Bismark, ND or Idahol Falls, ID.
    > However, for a lot of people, Idaho provides better quality of life.
    >
    > If you feel that average USD is the only criteria that matters to you, sure
    > go ahead and apply where you think best.
    > You have your priorities and make decisions accordingly - nothing wrong with
    > it.
    >
    > As for UK, allow me to forewarn you that things may not be as rosy as you
    > think.
    > Cost of living is extremely high in the UK.
    > Buying a decent house, raising a faimily, etc. can be very expensive.
    > The social sector is also being cut back significantly, health care is not
    > as good as it once used to be, etc.
    >
    > Do your research well - average per capita incomes are meaningless.
    >
    > Hope this answers your questions.
    >
    > "Gagan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi ,
    > > This is to share some of my thoughts on immigration . I applied
    > > in march 2002 from cic delhi. It seems it may take more than 2 years
    > > before something will out at the speed they are processing. Meanwhile
    > > I find that UK have recently ease the points system condition. I view
    > > both as english speaking developed country.
    > > As per UN report , the average approx per capital income of
    > > person
    > > in luxamburg -- 41,000 US dollor
    > > in UK is 25,000 US dollor.
    > > in canada 28,000 US dollor.
    > > in USA - 35,000 US dollor
    > > Austratlia - 20,000 US dollor
    > > Newesland - 17,000 US dollor
    > > India -- 2200 US dollor
    > > This figures certainly give some idea of the standard of living in
    > > each country.
    > >
    > >
    > > My question is to people sitting in UK as why they are applying
    > > & waiting so desparatly for canadian immigration. The standard of
    > > living in both countries seems to same. I am asking. Since now I am
    > > seriously thinking to apply for UK immigration. and forget about
    > > canada. But seeing so many people applyng from UK make bit confued if
    > > I am making right decision.
    > > Please comment.
    > >
    > > Regards.
 
Old Dec 9th 2003, 1:45 pm
  #4  
Gagan
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Default Re: waiting waiting now thinking of HSMP

Hi WebCrawler,
So should I beleive that the quality of life in UK is
petty bad campare to Canada. Means , the crime rate, racial abuse is
more in UK. I would like people from UK to respond on this issue.
How about the job opputunity in IT feild. Do UK offer better
opprtunity than canada. One can wait for year or so as this
immigration is important one time decesion. One cannot keep on
changing places.
REgards..

"WebCrawler" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > Gagan --
    >
    > The average US $$ in a country is not the only criteria why people want to
    > immigrate.
    > There are scores of other reasons - being closer to family, getting married,
    > some super job offer, and many others.
    > There is also the factor of quality of life, which is very different from
    > the standard of living.
    > Quality of life takes into account things like crime rates, accident rates,
    > racial equality, no discrimination on the basis of sex or religion, etc.
    > which standard of living doesn't.
    > For instance, in the USA, you can say that the standard of living in LA or
    > NY is higher than in say Bismark, ND or Idahol Falls, ID.
    > However, for a lot of people, Idaho provides better quality of life.
    >
    > If you feel that average USD is the only criteria that matters to you, sure
    > go ahead and apply where you think best.
    > You have your priorities and make decisions accordingly - nothing wrong with
    > it.
    >
    > As for UK, allow me to forewarn you that things may not be as rosy as you
    > think.
    > Cost of living is extremely high in the UK.
    > Buying a decent house, raising a faimily, etc. can be very expensive.
    > The social sector is also being cut back significantly, health care is not
    > as good as it once used to be, etc.
    >
    > Do your research well - average per capita incomes are meaningless.
    >
    > Hope this answers your questions.
    >
    > "Gagan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi ,
    > > This is to share some of my thoughts on immigration . I applied
    > > in march 2002 from cic delhi. It seems it may take more than 2 years
    > > before something will out at the speed they are processing. Meanwhile
    > > I find that UK have recently ease the points system condition. I view
    > > both as english speaking developed country.
    > > As per UN report , the average approx per capital income of
    > > person
    > > in luxamburg -- 41,000 US dollor
    > > in UK is 25,000 US dollor.
    > > in canada 28,000 US dollor.
    > > in USA - 35,000 US dollor
    > > Austratlia - 20,000 US dollor
    > > Newesland - 17,000 US dollor
    > > India -- 2200 US dollor
    > > This figures certainly give some idea of the standard of living in
    > > each country.
    > >
    > >
    > > My question is to people sitting in UK as why they are applying
    > > & waiting so desparatly for canadian immigration. The standard of
    > > living in both countries seems to same. I am asking. Since now I am
    > > seriously thinking to apply for UK immigration. and forget about
    > > canada. But seeing so many people applyng from UK make bit confued if
    > > I am making right decision.
    > > Please comment.
    > >
    > > Regards.
 
Old Dec 9th 2003, 2:21 pm
  #5  
Andrew Miller
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Sorry for jumping here but I'd like to add my 2 cents.

Permanent migration is not and should never be driven by employment
opportunities. Jobs come and go, markets are up and down, economy is booming
or in depression - in everyone's lifetime that cycle goes around quite few
times. Good job prospects in one country may be gone next year and may not
return for another 5 or 15 years. Poor job opportunities in another country
today may be offset next year by a huge boom in economy and substantial jobs
creation for next number of years. More - looking into job marker abroad
from the perspective of a single occupation or field when deciding about a
lifetime decision where to make your home is absurd and simply futile.

Current market conditions and job opportunities (or lack of), especially in
single occupation or field are only factors for migrant workers, for those
who move from country to country in never ending hunt for better pay.
Permanent immigration is not for this kind of people - they will regret
decision as soon as market goes sour or as soon as they realize that nobody
is waiting for them with golden job opportunities.

Permanent immigration is for those who want to make their and their kids
home permanently in another country, for better and for worse, no matter how
market conditions will change and how often they will have to change their
profession to adapt to always changing economy.

Sooner migrant workers realize the difference the better they'll be off. If
you are after better job then don't immigrate permanently to any country -
get a temporary work permit instead first. Don't waste your time and hopes
applying for permanent status if all you are after is better job.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
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"Gagan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi WebCrawler,
    > So should I beleive that the quality of life in UK is
    > petty bad campare to Canada. Means , the crime rate, racial abuse is
    > more in UK. I would like people from UK to respond on this issue.
    > How about the job opputunity in IT feild. Do UK offer better
    > opprtunity than canada. One can wait for year or so as this
    > immigration is important one time decesion. One cannot keep on
    > changing places.
    > REgards..
    > "WebCrawler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > Gagan --
    > >
    > > The average US $$ in a country is not the only criteria why people want
to
    > > immigrate.
    > > There are scores of other reasons - being closer to family, getting
married,
    > > some super job offer, and many others.
    > > There is also the factor of quality of life, which is very different
from
    > > the standard of living.
    > > Quality of life takes into account things like crime rates, accident
rates,
    > > racial equality, no discrimination on the basis of sex or religion, etc.
    > > which standard of living doesn't.
    > > For instance, in the USA, you can say that the standard of living in LA
or
    > > NY is higher than in say Bismark, ND or Idahol Falls, ID.
    > > However, for a lot of people, Idaho provides better quality of life.
    > >
    > > If you feel that average USD is the only criteria that matters to you,
sure
    > > go ahead and apply where you think best.
    > > You have your priorities and make decisions accordingly - nothing wrong
with
    > > it.
    > >
    > > As for UK, allow me to forewarn you that things may not be as rosy as
you
    > > think.
    > > Cost of living is extremely high in the UK.
    > > Buying a decent house, raising a faimily, etc. can be very expensive.
    > > The social sector is also being cut back significantly, health care is
not
    > > as good as it once used to be, etc.
    > >
    > > Do your research well - average per capita incomes are meaningless.
    > >
    > > Hope this answers your questions.
    > >
    > > "Gagan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Hi ,
    > > > This is to share some of my thoughts on immigration . I applied
    > > > in march 2002 from cic delhi. It seems it may take more than 2 years
    > > > before something will out at the speed they are processing. Meanwhile
    > > > I find that UK have recently ease the points system condition. I view
    > > > both as english speaking developed country.
    > > > As per UN report , the average approx per capital income of
    > > > person
    > > > in luxamburg -- 41,000 US dollor
    > > > in UK is 25,000 US dollor.
    > > > in canada 28,000 US dollor.
    > > > in USA - 35,000 US dollor
    > > > Austratlia - 20,000 US dollor
    > > > Newesland - 17,000 US dollor
    > > > India -- 2200 US dollor
    > > > This figures certainly give some idea of the standard of living in
    > > > each country.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > My question is to people sitting in UK as why they are applying
    > > > & waiting so desparatly for canadian immigration. The standard of
    > > > living in both countries seems to same. I am asking. Since now I am
    > > > seriously thinking to apply for UK immigration. and forget about
    > > > canada. But seeing so many people applyng from UK make bit confued if
    > > > I am making right decision.
    > > > Please comment.
    > > >
    > > > Regards.
 
Old Dec 10th 2003, 6:54 am
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Default Re: waiting waiting now thinking of HSMP

I live in UK, crime rate, racial abuse ..etc vary from city to city but generally its not that bad, large asian communities are established in large cities and things are going well.

I have to agree that health and social services are going down and I guess Canada is the best in these 2.

I must agree with Mr Miller about immigration, economics are not guranteed anywhere and surely countries you stated normally are in the same category.
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