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Old Feb 10th 2004, 2:28 pm
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Saprag
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My mother is a U.S Green card holder, and wants to start a small
business in canada. I want to know what procedures does she have to go
through to make it possible.
I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
eventhough she is a green card holder. If she does have to apply for a
PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
approximately take her to get it.

Thank you
 
Old Feb 10th 2004, 3:09 pm
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Please learn basics on Canadian government's website here:

www.cic.gc.ca

and after that ask more detailed questions in this forum or email me
directly for free evaluation of her chances and options.

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"SapRag" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > My mother is a U.S Green card holder, and wants to start a small
    > business in canada. I want to know what procedures does she have to go
    > through to make it possible.
    > I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
    > eventhough she is a green card holder. If she does have to apply for a
    > PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
    > approximately take her to get it.
    > Thank you
 
Old Feb 10th 2004, 3:13 pm
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in a recent article, SapRag ([email protected]) said:

    > I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
    > eventhough she is a green card holder.
The answer to that question can be obtained once you ask yourself if
Canada is part of the United States or not. If it is a sovereign nation,
would immigration status in one country necessarily impart immigration
status on another?

    > If she does have to apply for a
    > PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
    > approximately take her to get it.
Visit the immigration department web site at www.cic.gc.ca


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Old Feb 10th 2004, 4:12 pm
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she has no special status. She is like any other applicant from the world.
If and when she naturalises to be a US citizen, she might have "some" ease
in getting the Canadian business access.



"SapRag" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > My mother is a U.S Green card holder, and wants to start a small
    > business in canada. I want to know what procedures does she have to go
    > through to make it possible.
    > I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
    > eventhough she is a green card holder. If she does have to apply for a
    > PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
    > approximately take her to get it.
    > Thank you
 
Old Feb 10th 2004, 7:40 pm
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She would not be permitted to work at her business in Canada without an
Employment Authorization.
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"Singh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected] hlink.net...
    > she has no special status. She is like any other applicant from the world.
    > If and when she naturalises to be a US citizen, she might have "some"
ease
    > in getting the Canadian business access.
    > "SapRag" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > My mother is a U.S Green card holder, and wants to start a small
    > > business in canada. I want to know what procedures does she have to go
    > > through to make it possible.
    > > I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
    > > eventhough she is a green card holder. If she does have to apply for a
    > > PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
    > > approximately take her to get it.
    > >
    > > Thank you
 
Old Feb 10th 2004, 7:46 pm
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in a recent article, Singh ([email protected]) said:

    > she has no special status. She is like any other applicant from the world.
    > If and when she naturalises to be a US citizen, she might have "some" ease
    > in getting the Canadian business access.

Sorry...she won't have any 'ease' if she's a naturalised US Citizen.
Certainly no more than anyone from any other country.
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Old Feb 11th 2004, 3:46 am
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Cant US citizens get work permits under NAFTA ?




"http://www.iamnotamerican.com" <newsgroup@iam_not_american.com> wrote in
message news:BC4E8323.2666D%newsgroup@iam_not_american.com...
    > in a recent article, Singh ([email protected]) said:
    > > she has no special status. She is like any other applicant from the
world.
    > > If and when she naturalises to be a US citizen, she might have "some"
ease
    > > in getting the Canadian business access.
    > Sorry...she won't have any 'ease' if she's a naturalised US Citizen.
    > Certainly no more than anyone from any other country.
    > --
    > Say "I am not American" in TWELVE languages.
    > The original "I am not American" T-shirts - as seen on CNN
    > http://www.iamnotamerican.com
    > Remove underscores (_) from Email address to reply.
 
Old Feb 11th 2004, 3:49 am
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What are the temporary worker provisions of free trade agreements?
North American Free Trade Agreement
Under Chapter 16 of the NAFTA, citizens of Canada, the United States and
Mexico can gain quicker, easier temporary entry into the three countries to
conduct business-related activities or investments.

All businesspersons covered by the NAFTA are exempt from the need to obtain
approval from HRDC. This means that Canadian employers do not need to have a
job offer approved by HRDC to employ a U.S. or Mexican businessperson.

General provisions on temporary entry also apply to citizens of the three
countries.

The NAFTA applies to four specific categories of businesspersons: business
visitors, professionals, intra-company transferees, and traders and
investors.

A business visitor:

a.. must be entering Canada to take part in an activity listed in Appendix
1603.A.1 of Chapter 16 of the NAFTA (these activities include technical or
scientific research, attendance at a convention or trade fair, sales of
products or services--but not delivery at the time--and after-sales
service);
b.. cannot be seeking to join the domestic labour market--in other words,
the principal source of remuneration remains outside Canada; and
c.. does not need a work permit.
A professional:

a.. must be qualified to work in one of the more than 60 professions
listed in Appendix 1603.D.1 of Chapter 16 of the NAFTA (for example,
accountants, computer systems analysts, engineers, management consultants
and technical writers); and
b.. needs a work permit.
An intra-company transferee:

a.. must have worked for at least one year in the preceding three-year
period for the U.S. or Mexican employer who wishes to effect the transfer;
b.. must be transferred to Canada to work temporarily for the same or an
affiliated employer;
c.. works only at the executive or managerial level, or has specialized
knowledge; and
d.. needs a work permit.
A trader or investor:

a.. is a businessperson carrying on substantial trade in goods or services
principally between Canada and his or her country of citizenship, or is a
businessperson conducting substantial investment activities in Canada, in a
supervisory or executive capacity, or in a capacity that involves essential
skills;
b.. meets additional requirements under the NAFTA; and
c.. needs a work permit.
For further information on all categories, consult Appendix G of the
Temporary Foreign Worker Guidelines.





"SapRag" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > My mother is a U.S Green card holder, and wants to start a small
    > business in canada. I want to know what procedures does she have to go
    > through to make it possible.
    > I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
    > eventhough she is a green card holder. If she does have to apply for a
    > PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
    > approximately take her to get it.
    > Thank you
 
Old Feb 11th 2004, 3:58 am
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Default Re: Urgent / US Citizen / NAFTA

Original poster's mother is a Green Card holder, not a citizen of USA, thus
she doesn't qualify for any of NAFTA provisions.

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Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
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"Singh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > What are the temporary worker provisions of free trade agreements?
    > North American Free Trade Agreement
    > Under Chapter 16 of the NAFTA, citizens of Canada, the United States and
    > Mexico can gain quicker, easier temporary entry into the three countries
to
    > conduct business-related activities or investments.
    > All businesspersons covered by the NAFTA are exempt from the need to
obtain
    > approval from HRDC. This means that Canadian employers do not need to have
a
    > job offer approved by HRDC to employ a U.S. or Mexican businessperson.
    > General provisions on temporary entry also apply to citizens of the three
    > countries.
    > The NAFTA applies to four specific categories of businesspersons: business
    > visitors, professionals, intra-company transferees, and traders and
    > investors.
    > A business visitor:
    > a.. must be entering Canada to take part in an activity listed in
Appendix
    > 1603.A.1 of Chapter 16 of the NAFTA (these activities include technical or
    > scientific research, attendance at a convention or trade fair, sales of
    > products or services--but not delivery at the time--and after-sales
    > service);
    > b.. cannot be seeking to join the domestic labour market--in other
words,
    > the principal source of remuneration remains outside Canada; and
    > c.. does not need a work permit.
    > A professional:
    > a.. must be qualified to work in one of the more than 60 professions
    > listed in Appendix 1603.D.1 of Chapter 16 of the NAFTA (for example,
    > accountants, computer systems analysts, engineers, management consultants
    > and technical writers); and
    > b.. needs a work permit.
    > An intra-company transferee:
    > a.. must have worked for at least one year in the preceding three-year
    > period for the U.S. or Mexican employer who wishes to effect the transfer;
    > b.. must be transferred to Canada to work temporarily for the same or an
    > affiliated employer;
    > c.. works only at the executive or managerial level, or has specialized
    > knowledge; and
    > d.. needs a work permit.
    > A trader or investor:
    > a.. is a businessperson carrying on substantial trade in goods or
services
    > principally between Canada and his or her country of citizenship, or is a
    > businessperson conducting substantial investment activities in Canada, in
a
    > supervisory or executive capacity, or in a capacity that involves
essential
    > skills;
    > b.. meets additional requirements under the NAFTA; and
    > c.. needs a work permit.
    > For further information on all categories, consult Appendix G of the
    > Temporary Foreign Worker Guidelines.
    > "SapRag" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > My mother is a U.S Green card holder, and wants to start a small
    > > business in canada. I want to know what procedures does she have to go
    > > through to make it possible.
    > > I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
    > > eventhough she is a green card holder. If she does have to apply for a
    > > PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
    > > approximately take her to get it.
    > >
    > > Thank you
 
Old Feb 11th 2004, 3:59 am
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Singh
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please read the full thread


"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:_DiWb.54039$7Q1.11193@clgrps12...
    > Original poster's mother is a Green Card holder, not a citizen of USA,
thus
    > she doesn't qualify for any of NAFTA provisions.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Singh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > What are the temporary worker provisions of free trade agreements?
    > > North American Free Trade Agreement
    > > Under Chapter 16 of the NAFTA, citizens of Canada, the United States and
    > > Mexico can gain quicker, easier temporary entry into the three countries
    > to
    > > conduct business-related activities or investments.
    > >
    > > All businesspersons covered by the NAFTA are exempt from the need to
    > obtain
    > > approval from HRDC. This means that Canadian employers do not need to
have
    > a
    > > job offer approved by HRDC to employ a U.S. or Mexican businessperson.
    > >
    > > General provisions on temporary entry also apply to citizens of the
three
    > > countries.
    > >
    > > The NAFTA applies to four specific categories of businesspersons:
business
    > > visitors, professionals, intra-company transferees, and traders and
    > > investors.
    > >
    > > A business visitor:
    > >
    > > a.. must be entering Canada to take part in an activity listed in
    > Appendix
    > > 1603.A.1 of Chapter 16 of the NAFTA (these activities include technical
or
    > > scientific research, attendance at a convention or trade fair, sales of
    > > products or services--but not delivery at the time--and after-sales
    > > service);
    > > b.. cannot be seeking to join the domestic labour market--in other
    > words,
    > > the principal source of remuneration remains outside Canada; and
    > > c.. does not need a work permit.
    > > A professional:
    > >
    > > a.. must be qualified to work in one of the more than 60 professions
    > > listed in Appendix 1603.D.1 of Chapter 16 of the NAFTA (for example,
    > > accountants, computer systems analysts, engineers, management
consultants
    > > and technical writers); and
    > > b.. needs a work permit.
    > > An intra-company transferee:
    > >
    > > a.. must have worked for at least one year in the preceding three-year
    > > period for the U.S. or Mexican employer who wishes to effect the
transfer;
    > > b.. must be transferred to Canada to work temporarily for the same or
an
    > > affiliated employer;
    > > c.. works only at the executive or managerial level, or has
specialized
    > > knowledge; and
    > > d.. needs a work permit.
    > > A trader or investor:
    > >
    > > a.. is a businessperson carrying on substantial trade in goods or
    > services
    > > principally between Canada and his or her country of citizenship, or is
a
    > > businessperson conducting substantial investment activities in Canada,
in
    > a
    > > supervisory or executive capacity, or in a capacity that involves
    > essential
    > > skills;
    > > b.. meets additional requirements under the NAFTA; and
    > > c.. needs a work permit.
    > > For further information on all categories, consult Appendix G of the
    > > Temporary Foreign Worker Guidelines.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "SapRag" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > My mother is a U.S Green card holder, and wants to start a small
    > > > business in canada. I want to know what procedures does she have to go
    > > > through to make it possible.
    > > > I want to know if a PR is required for her to start a business
    > > > eventhough she is a green card holder. If she does have to apply for a
    > > > PR then how does she go about doing it and how long will it
    > > > approximately take her to get it.
    > > >
    > > > Thank you
    > >
    > >
 
Old Feb 11th 2004, 3:51 pm
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in a recent article, Singh ([email protected]) said:

    > please read the full thread

With respect, you may want to take your own advice. The original poster
was asking about opening a business in Canada, NOT being a temporary
businessperson.

NAFTA won't do anything because the mother is not entering on a
temporary basis in this case.
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Old Feb 11th 2004, 3:51 pm
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in a recent article, Singh ([email protected]) said:

    > Cant US citizens get work permits under NAFTA ?

1-She's not a citizen at present;
2-Not in this case because opening her own business does not qualify.

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Old Feb 11th 2004, 4:34 pm
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Singh just proved all over again how dangerous are ignorants who can't
understand and comprehend the law they are reading and quoting.


On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:51:10 GMT, "http://www.iamnotamerican.com"
<newsgroup@iam_not_american.com> wrote:

    >in a recent article, Singh ([email protected]) said:
    >> please read the full thread
    > With respect, you may want to take your own advice. The original poster
    >was asking about opening a business in Canada, NOT being a temporary
    >businessperson.
    > NAFTA won't do anything because the mother is not entering on a
    >temporary basis in this case.
 
Old Feb 11th 2004, 6:42 pm
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Default Re: Urgent / US Citizen / NAFTA

IamnotAmeican and Watcher,

Are you always this dumb or do you try and act so dumb.

Singh said If and When you become a citizen of US, the lady may have "some" access to the Canadian businesses. Its a 100% accurate statement.

I am a US citizen and moving to BC, the whole purose of NAFTA is what this lady is looking for, WHEN and IF she becomes a US person.

US Citizens do have easier access to business opportunities in NA than an Indian citizen under NAFTA.

Do you even know Singh, that you type all this trash. I can bet you on this, he is better informed and educated that 99% people here including your experts. I recently got to know him and his credentials are better than the best of us can dream of.

Be independent thinkers, dont pass judgements over nonsense.He didnt sign an affidavit claiming this is possible, he only said it may give you some ease, and there is no doubt about that.

But then, if we were all as smart as some of us, who would do the odd jobs..........

Melinda










Originally posted by Http://Www.Iamnotamerican.Com
in a recent article, Singh ([email protected]) said:

    > please read the full thread

With respect, you may want to take your own advice. The original poster
was asking about opening a business in Canada, NOT being a temporary
businessperson.

NAFTA won't do anything because the mother is not entering on a
temporary basis in this case.
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Old Feb 11th 2004, 7:32 pm
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Melinda - I suggest you follow Singh advice and read the original post
first. Poster said absolutely nothing about his mother options
"when/if she becomes US citizen" - it was Singh who tried to be a
smart ass when he is not.

And even if we follow initiated by Singh change of circumstances then
again - US citizens still have no better options than anyone else when
it comes to running his or her own business in Canada - it is called
getting proper work permit.

Why you "Melinda" act always so dumb by coming to the Singh's defense?
Sounds like Melinda = Singh...


On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 19:42:34 +0000, Melinda
<member20341@british_expats.com> wrote:

    >IamnotAmeican and Watcher,
    >Are you always this dumb or do you try and
    >act so dumb.
    >Singh said If and When you become a citizen of US, the
    >lady may have "some" access to the Canadian businesses. Its a 100%
    >accurate statement.
    >I am a US citizen and moving to BC, the whole
    >purose of NAFTA is what this lady is looking for, WHEN and IF she
    >becomes a US person.
    >US Citizens do have easier access to business
    >opportunities in NA than an Indian citizen under NAFTA.
    >Do you even
    >know Singh, that you type all this trash. I can bet you on this, he is
    >better informed and educated that 99% people here including your
    >experts. I recently got to know him and his credentials are better than
    >the best of us can dream of.
    >Be independent thinkers, dont pass
    >judgements over nonsense.He didnt sign an affidavit claiming this is
    >possible, he only said it may give you some ease, and there is no doubt
    >about that.
    >But then, if we were all as smart as some of us, who would
    >do the odd jobs..........
    >Melinda
    >Originally posted
    >by Http://Www.Iamnotamerican.Com
    >> in a recent article,
    >Singh ([email protected]) said:
    >>
    >> > please read the full thread
    >> With respect, you may want to take your own advice. The original
    >poster
    >> was asking about opening a business in Canada, NOT being a
    >temporary
    >> businessperson.
    >>
    >> NAFTA won't do anything because the
    >mother is not entering on a
    >> temporary basis in this case.
    >> --
    >> Say
    >"I am not American" in TWELVE languages.
    >> The original "I am not
    >American" T-shirts - as seen on CNN
    >> http://www.iamnotamerican.c-
    >om/http://www.iamnotamerican.com
    >Remove underscores (_) from
    >Email address to reply.
 


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