Unemployment Benefits
Jun 22nd 2003, 1:13 am
#1
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Thread Starter
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 57
Unemployment Benefits
Hi,
I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6 months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
"
Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find out this number...
In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may be needed to qualify. For examples :
if you are in the work force for the first time;
if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to qualify for regular benefits.
violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours required to qualify for EI benefits.
"
I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
Thanks.
I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6 months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
"
Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find out this number...
In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may be needed to qualify. For examples :
if you are in the work force for the first time;
if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to qualify for regular benefits.
violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours required to qualify for EI benefits.
"
I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
Thanks.
Jun 22nd 2003, 1:43 am
#2
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Re: Unemployment Benefits
You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
hours to qualify for anything.
You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
UI.
You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
Pete
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
wrote:
>Hi,
>I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6
>months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am
>eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in
>the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little
>confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>"
>Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in
>their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate
>in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find
>out this number...
>In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may
>be needed to qualify. For examples :
>if you are in the work force for the first time;
>if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
>*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or
>parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to
>the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to
>qualify for regular benefits.
>violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours
>required to qualify for EI benefits.
>"
>I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full
>benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering
>the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours
>to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much
>are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
>Thanks.
hours to qualify for anything.
You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
UI.
You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
Pete
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
wrote:
>Hi,
>I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6
>months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am
>eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in
>the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little
>confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>"
>Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in
>their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate
>in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find
>out this number...
>In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may
>be needed to qualify. For examples :
>if you are in the work force for the first time;
>if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
>*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or
>parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to
>the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to
>qualify for regular benefits.
>violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours
>required to qualify for EI benefits.
>"
>I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full
>benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering
>the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours
>to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much
>are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
>Thanks.
Jun 22nd 2003, 2:25 am
#3
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 57
Re: Unemployment Benefits
That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less money just not to lose my residency. Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that insurance. What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are contributing to you ignorant? How about the taxes I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that you can get welfare benefits your prick?
I hate ignorants.
I hate ignorants.
Originally posted by Pete
You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
hours to qualify for anything.
You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
UI.
You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
Pete
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
wrote:
>Hi,
>I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6
>months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am
>eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in
>the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little
>confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>"
>Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in
>their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate
>in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find
>out this number...
>In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may
>be needed to qualify. For examples :
>if you are in the work force for the first time;
>if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
>*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or
>parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to
>the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to
>qualify for regular benefits.
>violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours
>required to qualify for EI benefits.
>"
>I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full
>benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering
>the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours
>to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much
>are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
>Thanks.
You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
hours to qualify for anything.
You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
UI.
You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
Pete
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
wrote:
>Hi,
>I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6
>months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am
>eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in
>the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little
>confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>"
>Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in
>their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate
>in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find
>out this number...
>In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may
>be needed to qualify. For examples :
>if you are in the work force for the first time;
>if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
>*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or
>parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to
>the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to
>qualify for regular benefits.
>violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours
>required to qualify for EI benefits.
>"
>I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full
>benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering
>the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours
>to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much
>are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
>Thanks.
Jun 22nd 2003, 3:23 am
#4
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Re: Unemployment Benefits
If you landed in June 2001 then you will not lose PR status as long as prior
to June 2006 you will be present in Canada for at least 730 days (2 years).
So, the latest time you must return to Canada for at least 2 years is June
2004. Nothing to worry about losing status yet.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"stats2000" wrote in message
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> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
> money just not to lose my residency. Plus, the UI is an insurance and I
> will be contributing to that insurance. What's so wrong to benefit from
> the insurance you are contributing to you ignorant? How about the taxes
> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> I hate ignorants.
> Originally posted by Pete
> > You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
> > hours to qualify for anything.
> >
> > You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
> >
> > You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
> > have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
> > nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
> > the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
> > you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
> > UI.
> >
> > You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract
> > of 6
> > >months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I
> > am
> > >eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
> > >Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I
> > am in
> > >the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a
> > little
> > >confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
> > >"
> > >Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work
> > in
> > >their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment
> > rate
> > >in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits.
> > To find
> > >out this number...
> > >In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying
> > period may
> > >be needed to qualify. For examples :
> > >if you are in the work force for the first time;
> > >if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2
> > years.
> > >*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity
> > or
> > >parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period
> > prior to
> > >the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours
> > to
> > >qualify for regular benefits.
> > >violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number
> > of hours
> > >required to qualify for EI benefits.
> > >"
> > >I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for
> > full
> > >benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are
> > re-entering
> > >the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910
> > hours
> > >to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How
> > much
> > >are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
> >Thanks.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
to June 2006 you will be present in Canada for at least 730 days (2 years).
So, the latest time you must return to Canada for at least 2 years is June
2004. Nothing to worry about losing status yet.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"stats2000" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
> money just not to lose my residency. Plus, the UI is an insurance and I
> will be contributing to that insurance. What's so wrong to benefit from
> the insurance you are contributing to you ignorant? How about the taxes
> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> I hate ignorants.
> Originally posted by Pete
> > You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
> > hours to qualify for anything.
> >
> > You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
> >
> > You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
> > have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
> > nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
> > the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
> > you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
> > UI.
> >
> > You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract
> > of 6
> > >months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I
> > am
> > >eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
> > >Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I
> > am in
> > >the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a
> > little
> > >confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
> > >"
> > >Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work
> > in
> > >their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment
> > rate
> > >in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits.
> > To find
> > >out this number...
> > >In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying
> > period may
> > >be needed to qualify. For examples :
> > >if you are in the work force for the first time;
> > >if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2
> > years.
> > >*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity
> > or
> > >parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period
> > prior to
> > >the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours
> > to
> > >qualify for regular benefits.
> > >violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number
> > of hours
> > >required to qualify for EI benefits.
> > >"
> > >I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for
> > full
> > >benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are
> > re-entering
> > >the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910
> > hours
> > >to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How
> > much
> > >are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
> >Thanks.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Jun 22nd 2003, 3:30 am
#5
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Re: Unemployment Benefits
in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
>
> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
> money just not to lose my residency.
If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this point, why
is it so important now?
> Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that insurance.
> What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are contributing to
So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you break
yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to avoid taking
advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
insurance industry would collapse.
> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the short term
is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that your car is
going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> I hate ignorants.
A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain their status.
My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5 except
in extraordinary circumstances.
>
> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
> money just not to lose my residency.
If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this point, why
is it so important now?
> Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that insurance.
> What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are contributing to
So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you break
yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to avoid taking
advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
insurance industry would collapse.
> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the short term
is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that your car is
going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> I hate ignorants.
A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain their status.
My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5 except
in extraordinary circumstances.
Jun 22nd 2003, 4:12 am
#6
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Re: Unemployment Benefits
AH OH Pete aka Miss Stuart Brooks....You don't own Canada.
>Subject: Re: Unemployment Benefits
>From: Pete [email protected]
>Date: 6/21/03 10:43 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
>hours to qualify for anything.
>You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
>You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
>have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
>nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
>the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
>you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
>UI.
>You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
>Pete
>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6
>>months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am
>>eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>>Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in
>>the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little
>>confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>>"
>>Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in
>>their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate
>>in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find
>>out this number...
>>In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may
>>be needed to qualify. For examples :
>>if you are in the work force for the first time;
>>if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
>>*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or
>>parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to
>>the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to
>>qualify for regular benefits.
>>violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours
>>required to qualify for EI benefits.
>>"
>>I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full
>>benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering
>>the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours
>>to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much
>>are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
>>Thanks.
>Subject: Re: Unemployment Benefits
>From: Pete [email protected]
>Date: 6/21/03 10:43 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
>hours to qualify for anything.
>You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
>You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
>have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
>nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
>the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
>you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
>UI.
>You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
>Pete
>On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract of 6
>>months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I am
>>eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>>Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I am in
>>the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a little
>>confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>>"
>>Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work in
>>their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment rate
>>in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits. To find
>>out this number...
>>In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying period may
>>be needed to qualify. For examples :
>>if you are in the work force for the first time;
>>if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2 years.
>>*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity or
>>parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period prior to
>>the qualifying period, you will require between 420 and 700 hours to
>>qualify for regular benefits.
>>violations from previous EI claims may also increase the number of hours
>>required to qualify for EI benefits.
>>"
>>I know that in Montreal you need to work 560 hours to qualify for full
>>benefits. I am a little confused by the above (if you are re-entering
>>the work force after an absence of 2 years). Do I need 560 or 910 hours
>>to qualify? Is there a number where I can inquire about that? How much
>>are you supposed to get anyway (as % of your salary)?
>>Thanks.
Jun 22nd 2003, 4:14 am
#7
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Re: Unemployment Benefits
See stats ignore this fags...they don;t own Canada.
>Subject: Re: Unemployment Benefits
>From: stats2000 [email protected]
>Date: 6/21/03 11:25 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
>my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
>money just not to lose my residency. Plus, the UI is an insurance and I
>will be contributing to that insurance. What's so wrong to benefit from
>the insurance you are contributing to you ignorant? How about the taxes
>I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
>you can get welfare benefits your prick?
>I hate ignorants.
>Originally posted by Pete
>> You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
>> hours to qualify for anything.
>> You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
>> You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
>> have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
>> nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
>> the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
>> you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
>> UI.
>> You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
>> Pete
>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
>> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract
>> of 6
>> >months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I
>> am
>> >eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>> >Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I
>> am in
>> >the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a
>> little
>> >confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>> >"
>> >Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work
>> in
>> >their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment
>> rate
>> >in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits.
>> To find
>> >out this number...
>> >In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying
>> period may
>> >be needed to qualify. For examples :
>> >if you are in the work force for the first time;
>> >if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2
>> years.
>> >*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity
>> or
>> >parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period
>Subject: Re: Unemployment Benefits
>From: stats2000 [email protected]
>Date: 6/21/03 11:25 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
>my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
>money just not to lose my residency. Plus, the UI is an insurance and I
>will be contributing to that insurance. What's so wrong to benefit from
>the insurance you are contributing to you ignorant? How about the taxes
>I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
>you can get welfare benefits your prick?
>I hate ignorants.
>Originally posted by Pete
>> You will be entering work force for the first time and you'll need 910
>> hours to qualify for anything.
>> You go and milk some other country you freaking parasite!
>> You left Canada immediately after landing and under old law you would
>> have been lost your status here by the end of 2001. Luckily to you
>> nobody challenged your status and new law came in June 2002 giving you
>> the absolutely undeserved opportunity to return to Canada. And what
>> you want to do? You want to come here just for 6 months to qualify for
>> UI.
>> You are a parasite and we don't want you here!!!
>> Pete
>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 01:13:59 +0000, stats2000
>> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >I have the status of PR in Canada. I have an offer for a contract
>> of 6
>> >months in Montreal. I will only accept the offer if I am sure I
>> am
>> >eligible for EI after the end of this contract.
>> >Now, I have never worked in Canada since I landed (June 2001). I
>> am in
>> >the US right now and have never returned since I landed.I am a
>> little
>> >confused by paragraph on HRDC site:
>> >"
>> >Most people will need between 420 and 700 insurable hours of work
>> in
>> >their qualifying period to qualify, depending on the unemployment
>> rate
>> >in their region at the time of filing their claim for benefits.
>> To find
>> >out this number...
>> >In some instances, a minimum of 910 hours in the qualifying
>> period may
>> >be needed to qualify. For examples :
>> >if you are in the work force for the first time;
>> >if you are re-entering the work force after an absence of 2
>> years.
>> >*However, if you have received at least one week of maternity
>> or
>> >parental benefits in the 208 weeks preceding the 52-week period
Jun 22nd 2003, 4:19 am
#8
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unemployment Benefits
idiot trikky aka miss stuart brooks..your not the prime minister in fact your
nobody...u don't own canada.
>Subject: Re: Unemployment Benefits
>From: Trikky [email protected]
>Date: 6/22/03 12:30 AM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
>>
>> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
>> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
>> money just not to lose my residency.
> If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this point, why
>is it so important now?
>> Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that insurance.
>> What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are contributing to
> So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you break
>yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
>Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to avoid taking
>advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
>insurance industry would collapse.
>> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
>> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the short term
>is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that your car is
>going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
>> I hate ignorants.
> A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
>security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
>straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain their status.
> My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5 except
>in extraordinary circumstances.
nobody...u don't own canada.
>Subject: Re: Unemployment Benefits
>From: Trikky [email protected]
>Date: 6/22/03 12:30 AM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
>>
>> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
>> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
>> money just not to lose my residency.
> If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this point, why
>is it so important now?
>> Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that insurance.
>> What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are contributing to
> So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you break
>yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
>Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to avoid taking
>advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
>insurance industry would collapse.
>> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
>> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the short term
>is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that your car is
>going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
>> I hate ignorants.
> A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
>security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
>straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain their status.
> My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5 except
>in extraordinary circumstances.
Jun 22nd 2003, 4:56 am
#9
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 57
Re: Unemployment Benefits
Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs. I will not take the offer unless the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while looking for another position, thus the UI.
If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while looking for another position, thus the UI.
If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
Originally posted by Trikky
in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
>
> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
> money just not to lose my residency.
If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this point, why
is it so important now?
> Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that insurance.
> What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are contributing to
So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you break
yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to avoid taking
advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
insurance industry would collapse.
> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the short term
is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that your car is
going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> I hate ignorants.
A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain their status.
My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5 except
in extraordinary circumstances.
in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
>
> That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have to quit
> my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with 50% less
> money just not to lose my residency.
If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this point, why
is it so important now?
> Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that insurance.
> What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are contributing to
So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you break
yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to avoid taking
advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
insurance industry would collapse.
> I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes so that
> you can get welfare benefits your prick?
Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the short term
is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that your car is
going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> I hate ignorants.
A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain their status.
My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5 except
in extraordinary circumstances.
Jun 22nd 2003, 6:13 am
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unemployment Benefits
in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
>
> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs.
You're welcome. If you don't want BOTH sides of the story, then don't
post to USEnet.
>I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
In other words, long enough for you to scab off the system?
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
Or you could always stay in the position you have now, since it pays
more money. From an insurance perspective, that makes sense.
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome.
You're welcome. I am well-versed in insurance fundamentals.
> If not, please keep your comments for your self.
Why? You asked for them in a public forum.
> We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
And your best interest would apparently be served by not putting
yourself into a system where you have to depend on social security
assistance to survive.
Of course, I notice that you couldn't prove my statements and
comparisons wrong. How interesting...
>
> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs.
You're welcome. If you don't want BOTH sides of the story, then don't
post to USEnet.
>I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
In other words, long enough for you to scab off the system?
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
Or you could always stay in the position you have now, since it pays
more money. From an insurance perspective, that makes sense.
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome.
You're welcome. I am well-versed in insurance fundamentals.
> If not, please keep your comments for your self.
Why? You asked for them in a public forum.
> We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
And your best interest would apparently be served by not putting
yourself into a system where you have to depend on social security
assistance to survive.
Of course, I notice that you couldn't prove my statements and
comparisons wrong. How interesting...
Jun 22nd 2003, 8:26 am
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unemployment Benefits
stats2000 wrote:
>
> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs. I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
Remember too that your EI payments to you are taxable income, and that
you must pay your EI premiums.
> 910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
Where are you going to find a job that you can work 7 hours a day? You
will be expected to work 8. Don't know where you came from, but it's
not the N. American way.
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
>
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please
> keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
If you only want to come to Canada if you can get EI, then you sure as
hell don't really want to come to Canada. It's a real shame the intent
rules were stripped from the retaining PR laws ... because it's pretty
damned clear that you aren't really interested in being a Canadian PR.
Why not go for your green card and stay in the capitalist US, which is
going down the toilet?
Why, it's a free speach society. Sorry, it is not a capitalist system.
Last I looked, Canada was a social democracy.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs. I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
Remember too that your EI payments to you are taxable income, and that
you must pay your EI premiums.
> 910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
Where are you going to find a job that you can work 7 hours a day? You
will be expected to work 8. Don't know where you came from, but it's
not the N. American way.
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
>
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please
> keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
If you only want to come to Canada if you can get EI, then you sure as
hell don't really want to come to Canada. It's a real shame the intent
rules were stripped from the retaining PR laws ... because it's pretty
damned clear that you aren't really interested in being a Canadian PR.
Why not go for your green card and stay in the capitalist US, which is
going down the toilet?
Why, it's a free speach society. Sorry, it is not a capitalist system.
Last I looked, Canada was a social democracy.
Jun 22nd 2003, 5:43 pm
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Unemployment Benefits
Unfortunately I cannot give you any clear facts about UI/EI as I have never
been unemployed since my landing in Canada in 1992 (the only time I was out
of work was when I decided to quit the company I was working for).
All I can tell you is that if you are smart and know what/how to do it you
can achieve your goals stated in your initial message. Do more research, try
all the Canadian government web sites including HRDC, put in balance what
it's really better for you, to quit your current job and get one for lesser
money or move permanently to Canada and stick within the PR requirements as
Andrew Miller clearly told you. As long as you are within the law nobody can
charge you with any wrong doing. Therefore, my message to you is GO FOR IT!
I totally agree with you that "each one looks for his own interest first and
foremost". If you know how to do it you will always be a winner.
As for "we are all in a capitalist system", here I have to disagree with
you, USA is indeed a country working under a capitalist system with
capitalist rules and laws, Canada is a free and democratic country, no doubt
about it, but with a strong socialist mentality (the Party in power for the
past 10 years and most of the society, especially those in QC and BC,
Alberta being the opposite one). The Anti-American mentality, the
decriminalization of marijuana, the legalization of homosexual marriages
(God's will and our holly bible have no more meaning in today's Canada or
should I say Gaynada), are just some clear facts of how much this
government, backed by a large portion of this society, has shifted strongly
to the left. Canada looks now more like Sweden and Norway, countries well
known for their strong socialist systems and societies, than USA.
I don't know how constructive my comments are for you, but at least I did
not throw rocks on you...
Best of luck.
Chris in Toronto
"stats2000" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs. I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
> 910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please
> keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
> Originally posted by Trikky
> > in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
> >
> > >
> > > That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have
> > to quit
> > > my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with
> > 50% less
> > > money just not to lose my residency.
> > If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this
> > point, why
> > is it so important now?
> >
> > > Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that
> > insurance.
> > > What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are
> > contributing to
> > So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you
> > break
> > yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
> > Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to
> > avoid taking
> > advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
> > insurance industry would collapse.
> >
> > > I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes
> > so that
> > > you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> > Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the
> > short term
> > is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that
> > your car is
> > going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> >
> > > I hate ignorants.
> > A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
> > security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
> > straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain
> > their status.
> >
> > My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5
> > except
> in extraordinary circumstances.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
been unemployed since my landing in Canada in 1992 (the only time I was out
of work was when I decided to quit the company I was working for).
All I can tell you is that if you are smart and know what/how to do it you
can achieve your goals stated in your initial message. Do more research, try
all the Canadian government web sites including HRDC, put in balance what
it's really better for you, to quit your current job and get one for lesser
money or move permanently to Canada and stick within the PR requirements as
Andrew Miller clearly told you. As long as you are within the law nobody can
charge you with any wrong doing. Therefore, my message to you is GO FOR IT!
I totally agree with you that "each one looks for his own interest first and
foremost". If you know how to do it you will always be a winner.
As for "we are all in a capitalist system", here I have to disagree with
you, USA is indeed a country working under a capitalist system with
capitalist rules and laws, Canada is a free and democratic country, no doubt
about it, but with a strong socialist mentality (the Party in power for the
past 10 years and most of the society, especially those in QC and BC,
Alberta being the opposite one). The Anti-American mentality, the
decriminalization of marijuana, the legalization of homosexual marriages
(God's will and our holly bible have no more meaning in today's Canada or
should I say Gaynada), are just some clear facts of how much this
government, backed by a large portion of this society, has shifted strongly
to the left. Canada looks now more like Sweden and Norway, countries well
known for their strong socialist systems and societies, than USA.
I don't know how constructive my comments are for you, but at least I did
not throw rocks on you...
Best of luck.
Chris in Toronto
"stats2000" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs. I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
> 910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please
> keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
> Originally posted by Trikky
> > in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
> >
> > >
> > > That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have
> > to quit
> > > my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with
> > 50% less
> > > money just not to lose my residency.
> > If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this
> > point, why
> > is it so important now?
> >
> > > Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that
> > insurance.
> > > What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are
> > contributing to
> > So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you
> > break
> > yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
> > Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to
> > avoid taking
> > advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
> > insurance industry would collapse.
> >
> > > I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes
> > so that
> > > you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> > Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the
> > short term
> > is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that
> > your car is
> > going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> >
> > > I hate ignorants.
> > A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
> > security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
> > straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain
> > their status.
> >
> > My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5
> > except
> in extraordinary circumstances.
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Jun 23rd 2003, 5:32 am
#13
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 57
Re: Unemployment Benefits
Thanks Chris. I just hate that reaction that I am coming to Canada to take advantage of the system. If my stay in the US has taught me something, it has taught me that I should not rely on the government to get ahead in life. I have tried to find a permanent position in Canada but with no success. I am also trying to get my Green Card here in the US so that I do not have to come to Canada at all.
Let me make something clear! If I could find a position in Canada, I would have come along time ago. I am not quitting my permanent job in the US for some contract position in Canada that would not even allow me to get UI while looking for another position. Only a careless person would do that. There is nothing wrong with taking advantage of benefits that are legally open to you. The law says that once you work 910 hours (if you are entering the job market for the first time), you can take advantage of UI. If I am offered a contract position of 910 hours, I will take it. If it is not extended, I will apply for UI whether some people like it or not. If my Green card comes through in the US, I will keep my permanent job in the US and give up my PR in Canada. It is not about first or second choice. It is not about my country, Canada, or the US. It is about where I can find and keep a job. It is about me first. It is about my future. It is not about how some Canadian thinks about it. Those who think that the system is open to abuse by immigrants should complain to their representatives.
By the way, I left my own country because I could not find job. I have left Canada too because I could not find a job and I am in the US because I have one. If you want to be a patriot, be one. I do not believe in patriotism. I believe in myself and about myself.
Thanks to all.
Let me make something clear! If I could find a position in Canada, I would have come along time ago. I am not quitting my permanent job in the US for some contract position in Canada that would not even allow me to get UI while looking for another position. Only a careless person would do that. There is nothing wrong with taking advantage of benefits that are legally open to you. The law says that once you work 910 hours (if you are entering the job market for the first time), you can take advantage of UI. If I am offered a contract position of 910 hours, I will take it. If it is not extended, I will apply for UI whether some people like it or not. If my Green card comes through in the US, I will keep my permanent job in the US and give up my PR in Canada. It is not about first or second choice. It is not about my country, Canada, or the US. It is about where I can find and keep a job. It is about me first. It is about my future. It is not about how some Canadian thinks about it. Those who think that the system is open to abuse by immigrants should complain to their representatives.
By the way, I left my own country because I could not find job. I have left Canada too because I could not find a job and I am in the US because I have one. If you want to be a patriot, be one. I do not believe in patriotism. I believe in myself and about myself.
Thanks to all.
Originally posted by Chris
Unfortunately I cannot give you any clear facts about UI/EI as I have never
been unemployed since my landing in Canada in 1992 (the only time I was out
of work was when I decided to quit the company I was working for).
All I can tell you is that if you are smart and know what/how to do it you
can achieve your goals stated in your initial message. Do more research, try
all the Canadian government web sites including HRDC, put in balance what
it's really better for you, to quit your current job and get one for lesser
money or move permanently to Canada and stick within the PR requirements as
Andrew Miller clearly told you. As long as you are within the law nobody can
charge you with any wrong doing. Therefore, my message to you is GO FOR IT!
I totally agree with you that "each one looks for his own interest first and
foremost". If you know how to do it you will always be a winner.
As for "we are all in a capitalist system", here I have to disagree with
you, USA is indeed a country working under a capitalist system with
capitalist rules and laws, Canada is a free and democratic country, no doubt
about it, but with a strong socialist mentality (the Party in power for the
past 10 years and most of the society, especially those in QC and BC,
Alberta being the opposite one). The Anti-American mentality, the
decriminalization of marijuana, the legalization of homosexual marriages
(God's will and our holly bible have no more meaning in today's Canada or
should I say Gaynada), are just some clear facts of how much this
government, backed by a large portion of this society, has shifted strongly
to the left. Canada looks now more like Sweden and Norway, countries well
known for their strong socialist systems and societies, than USA.
I don't know how constructive my comments are for you, but at least I did
not throw rocks on you...
Best of luck.
Chris in Toronto
"stats2000" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs. I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
> 910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please
> keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
> Originally posted by Trikky
> > in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
> >
> > >
> > > That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have
> > to quit
> > > my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with
> > 50% less
> > > money just not to lose my residency.
> > If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this
> > point, why
> > is it so important now?
> >
> > > Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that
> > insurance.
> > > What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are
> > contributing to
> > So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you
> > break
> > yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
> > Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to
> > avoid taking
> > advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
> > insurance industry would collapse.
> >
> > > I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes
> > so that
> > > you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> > Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the
> > short term
> > is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that
> > your car is
> > going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> >
> > > I hate ignorants.
> > A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
> > security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
> > straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain
> > their status.
> >
> > My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5
> > except
> in extraordinary circumstances.
> --
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Unfortunately I cannot give you any clear facts about UI/EI as I have never
been unemployed since my landing in Canada in 1992 (the only time I was out
of work was when I decided to quit the company I was working for).
All I can tell you is that if you are smart and know what/how to do it you
can achieve your goals stated in your initial message. Do more research, try
all the Canadian government web sites including HRDC, put in balance what
it's really better for you, to quit your current job and get one for lesser
money or move permanently to Canada and stick within the PR requirements as
Andrew Miller clearly told you. As long as you are within the law nobody can
charge you with any wrong doing. Therefore, my message to you is GO FOR IT!
I totally agree with you that "each one looks for his own interest first and
foremost". If you know how to do it you will always be a winner.
As for "we are all in a capitalist system", here I have to disagree with
you, USA is indeed a country working under a capitalist system with
capitalist rules and laws, Canada is a free and democratic country, no doubt
about it, but with a strong socialist mentality (the Party in power for the
past 10 years and most of the society, especially those in QC and BC,
Alberta being the opposite one). The Anti-American mentality, the
decriminalization of marijuana, the legalization of homosexual marriages
(God's will and our holly bible have no more meaning in today's Canada or
should I say Gaynada), are just some clear facts of how much this
government, backed by a large portion of this society, has shifted strongly
to the left. Canada looks now more like Sweden and Norway, countries well
known for their strong socialist systems and societies, than USA.
I don't know how constructive my comments are for you, but at least I did
not throw rocks on you...
Best of luck.
Chris in Toronto
"stats2000" wrote in message
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> Anyway, thanks for the negative inputs. I will not take the offer unless
> the duration of the contract is 910 hours or more
> 910/7(hours a day)/22 (days a month)=6.5 months.
> Most likely the contract will be extended. If not, I need income while
> looking for another position, thus the UI.
> If there are any constructive comments, they are welcome. If not, please
> keep your comments for your self. We are all in a capitalist system and
> each one looks for his own interest first and foremost.
> Originally posted by Trikky
> > in a recent article, stats2000 ([email protected]) said:
> >
> > >
> > > That was a stupid and rude reply at the very least. I will have
> > to quit
> > > my permanent job in the US to take that contract in Canada with
> > 50% less
> > > money just not to lose my residency.
> > If your residency in Canada hasn't been important until this
> > point, why
> > is it so important now?
> >
> > > Plus, the UI is an insurance and I will be contributing to that
> > insurance.
> > > What's so wrong to benefit from the insurance you are
> > contributing to
> > So, by your thinking, you feel the need for a new stereo, so you
> > break
> > yours and claim it under your home insurance? Doesn't work that way.
> > Insurance is something you are obliged to take ALL steps to
> > avoid taking
> > advantage of. If everyone claimed the insurance they paid into, the
> > insurance industry would collapse.
> >
> > > I will be paying during these 6 months? Will I be paying taxes
> > so that
> > > you can get welfare benefits your prick?
> > Paying into it knowing that you'll be claiming from it in the
> > short term
> > is fraud. It's like subscribing to life insurance knowing that
> > your car is
> > going to be stolen in six months. It's unethical.
> >
> > > I hate ignorants.
> > A lot of people hate those who abuse the immigration (and social
> > security) systems...especially those who get PR status and then leave
> > straight away, only to return briefly in order to maintain
> > their status.
> >
> > My opinion...PR status should require 3.5-4 years in the last 5
> > except
> in extraordinary circumstances.
> --
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Jun 23rd 2003, 8:36 pm
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Re: Unemployment Benefits
"stats2000" wrote in message
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> Thanks Chris. I just hate that reaction that I am coming to Canada to
> take advantage of the system. If my stay in the US has taught me
> something, it has taught me that I should not rely on the government to
> get ahead in life. I have tried to find a permanent position in Canada
> but with no success. I am also trying to get my Green Card here in the
> US so that I do not have to come to Canada at all.
There is a difference between laying off from a permanent position and from
a contractual position. My understanding is you can't collect EI from a
contractual position.
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> Thanks Chris. I just hate that reaction that I am coming to Canada to
> take advantage of the system. If my stay in the US has taught me
> something, it has taught me that I should not rely on the government to
> get ahead in life. I have tried to find a permanent position in Canada
> but with no success. I am also trying to get my Green Card here in the
> US so that I do not have to come to Canada at all.
There is a difference between laying off from a permanent position and from
a contractual position. My understanding is you can't collect EI from a
contractual position.
Jun 23rd 2003, 11:02 pm
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Re: Unemployment Benefits
"Goldfinger" wrote in message
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> >
> There is a difference between laying off from a permanent position and
from
> a contractual position. My understanding is you can't collect EI from a
> contractual position.
The poster can apply & more than likely would be eligible for E.I. from a
contractual position. The only times you would be disqualified for E.I. are
due to reason of leaving:
is quit(voluntary leaving) or fired (misconduct).
Layoffs, end of contracts, sick, maternity or parental are very good reasons
to apply for E.I.
Heather
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> >
> There is a difference between laying off from a permanent position and
from
> a contractual position. My understanding is you can't collect EI from a
> contractual position.
The poster can apply & more than likely would be eligible for E.I. from a
contractual position. The only times you would be disqualified for E.I. are
due to reason of leaving:
is quit(voluntary leaving) or fired (misconduct).
Layoffs, end of contracts, sick, maternity or parental are very good reasons
to apply for E.I.
Heather