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Old Mar 28th 2007, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
SO I'm reading that as saying IF Phil has a WP the kids DONT need a study permit? Everybody agree?
That's how I see it.
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Old Mar 28th 2007, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by Butch Cassidy
SO I'm reading that as saying IF Phil has a WP the kids DONT need a study permit? Everybody agree?
Hi BC and Steve P

This is how I read it - Phil's WP gets them the right to an education just like any other PR.

But what is this "determination" thing does mean that the school district still has the right to refuse them schooling ?

Sorry - I tend to look too deeply into things and Andrew Miller has said on one of the earlier posts that I should get them.

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Originally Posted by burton bunch
Hi BC and Steve P

This is how I read it - Phil's WP gets them the right to an education just like any other PR.

But what is this "determination" thing does mean that the school district still has the right to refuse them schooling ?

Sorry - I tend to look too deeply into things and Andrew Miller has said on one of the earlier posts that I should get them.

Gaynor

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Gay,

As I read it 'determination' is a decision as to which is the best (and closest) school for the child (also is the child doesnt have english as a first language then the district will test there english language skills and use this to help decide on the school).

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I'd just like to get anything out of London CIC...work permit, study permit....a response....an acknowledgement of receipt......sign of life ?!?!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by Tangram
I'd just like to get anything out of London CIC...work permit, study permit....a response....an acknowledgement of receipt......sign of life ?!?!?!?!?
oh Tangram

I really feel for you hun Must be terrible

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ps just realised that is not the comment for a lady to make when Butch and Steve P are around
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Correct, but they didn't notice....
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oh Tangram

I really feel for you hun Must be terrible

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ps just realised that is not the comment for a lady to make when Butch and Steve P are around


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Originally Posted by burton bunch
Hi guys

Since posting this thread it says on the Calgary Education website that WP holders minor kids don't need one - and am presuming it will be the same for the town in Southern Alberta I am going to.

Why buy one if the education department dont want one ?

Seems to be conflicting information where ever I turn

Gaynor

Hi Gaynor

Could you please send this link as I can't find one?

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Old Apr 30th 2007, 7:45 am
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Originally Posted by gryphea
Could you please send this link as I can't find one?
It's possible that Gay is referring to the BE Wiki article on Calgary Schooling.

I authored that article. I have phoned the Calgary Board of Education at least three times about that issue. I've also phoned the Calgary Catholic School District, the Rockyview School Division (into which Cochrane falls), and Foothills School Division (into which Okotoks falls).

All four of those school divisions have said the same thing, namely, that they automatically accept the children of work permit holders, that children of work permit holders do not require student visas, and that they provide the same close-to-free education to children of work permit holders that they provide to Canadian citizens and permanent residents of Canada.

By the way, they also automatically accept and provide close-to-free schooling to the child of a student visa holder who is doing a university course.

In the Wiki article on Calgary schooling, I listed the documents that the parent has to provide upon registering a child, and a student visa is not one of the required documents.

But this is something that differs from school board to school board. I did say in the BE Wiki article on Canadian Schooling that different school boards treat children of work permit holders in different ways.

The most important difference, that a parent would feel in his/her wallet, is that some government-funded school boards in Canada regard children of work permit holders as foreign students and charge them tuition amounting to about C$10,000 per student per year.

I will now go to the Calgary schooling article and clarify that the information is for Calgary, Cochrane and Okotoks only and that people going to other school jurisdictions need to check on the situation in those jurisdictions.

Insofar as the Calgary Board of Education is concerned, the Admissions & Multicultural Services page of their website states that they accept students who are, quote:
  • from other provinces and abroad
  • immigrants
  • children of individuals who are lawfully admitted to Canada for permanent or temporary residence, or non-residents
  • international exchange and international fee-paying students

Edited to add that, notwithstanding what the Calgary Board of Education states on its website, school board officials have given me a couple of additional bits of information when I have spoken to them on the phone. I shared those bits in the Wiki article on Calgary schooling. For example, I find it rather curious that, in the case of work permit holders, they treat only birth children of WP holders, and not adopted children of WP holders, the same as Canadian residents. At least two different people from CBE have told me that. I am gobsmacked that legally adopted children can be treated differently from birth children.

Last edited by Judy in Calgary; Apr 30th 2007 at 8:29 am. Reason: Birth children of WP holders.
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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
It's possible that Gay is referring to the BE Wiki article on Calgary Schooling.

I authored that article. I have phoned the Calgary Board of Education at least three times about that issue. I've also phoned the Calgary Catholic School District, the Rockyview School Division (into which Cochrane falls), and Foothills School Division (into which Okotoks falls).

All four of those school divisions have said the same thing, namely, that they automatically accept the children of work permit holders, that children of work permit holders do not require student visas, and that they provide the same close-to-free education to children of work permit holders that they provide to Canadian citizens and permanent residents of Canada.

By the way, they also automatically accept and provide close-to-free schooling to the child of a student visa holder who is doing a university course.

In the Wiki article on Calgary schooling, I listed the documents that the parent has to provide upon registering a child, and a student visa is not one of the required documents.

But this is something that differs from school board to school board. I did say in the BE Wiki article on Canadian Schooling that different school boards treat children of work permit holders in different ways.

The most important difference, that a parent would feel in his/her wallet, is that some government-funded school boards in Canada regard children of work permit holders as foreign students and charge them tuition amounting to about C$10,000 per student per year.

I will now go to the Calgary schooling article and clarify that the information is for Calgary, Cochrane and Okotoks only and that people going to other school jurisdictions need to check on the situation in those jurisdictions.

Insofar as the Calgary Board of Education is concerned, the Admissions & Multicultural Services page of their website states that they accept students who are, quote:
  • from other provinces and abroad
  • immigrants
  • children of individuals who are lawfully admitted to Canada for permanent or temporary residence, or non-residents
  • international exchange and international fee-paying students

Edited to add that, notwithstanding what the Calgary Board of Education states on its website, school board officials have given me a couple of additional bits of information when I have spoken to them on the phone. I shared those bits in the Wiki article on Calgary schooling. For example, I found it rather curious that, in the case of work permit holders, they treat only birth children of WP holders, and not adopted children of WP holders, the same as Canadian residents. At least two different people from CBE have told me that.
For Alberta if a child is a PR or the child of a WP holder they do not need a study permit - had this clarified by the lawyer

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Originally Posted by burton bunch
For Alberta if a child is a PR or the child of a WP holder they do not need a study permit - had this clarified by the lawyer
Thanks for the confirmation, Gay. I made another small tweak to the Wiki article to clarify that point.
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Thanks Judy

Everything I have read seems to point to no study permits being required, I guess I just got worried by everyone on here applying for them!!! I did read your article and it bascially said what I thought to be the case!

Luckily our children are our birth children and that is quite strange!

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Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
It's possible that Gay is referring to the BE Wiki article on Calgary Schooling.

I authored that article. I have phoned the Calgary Board of Education at least three times about that issue. I've also phoned the Calgary Catholic School District, the Rockyview School Division (into which Cochrane falls), and Foothills School Division (into which Okotoks falls).

All four of those school divisions have said the same thing, namely, that they automatically accept the children of work permit holders, that children of work permit holders do not require student visas, and that they provide the same close-to-free education to children of work permit holders that they provide to Canadian citizens and permanent residents of Canada.

By the way, they also automatically accept and provide close-to-free schooling to the child of a student visa holder who is doing a university course.

In the Wiki article on Calgary schooling, I listed the documents that the parent has to provide upon registering a child, and a student visa is not one of the required documents.

But this is something that differs from school board to school board. I did say in the BE Wiki article on Canadian Schooling that different school boards treat children of work permit holders in different ways.

The most important difference, that a parent would feel in his/her wallet, is that some government-funded school boards in Canada regard children of work permit holders as foreign students and charge them tuition amounting to about C$10,000 per student per year.

I will now go to the Calgary schooling article and clarify that the information is for Calgary, Cochrane and Okotoks only and that people going to other school jurisdictions need to check on the situation in those jurisdictions.

Insofar as the Calgary Board of Education is concerned, the Admissions & Multicultural Services page of their website states that they accept students who are, quote:
  • from other provinces and abroad
  • immigrants
  • children of individuals who are lawfully admitted to Canada for permanent or temporary residence, or non-residents
  • international exchange and international fee-paying students

Edited to add that, notwithstanding what the Calgary Board of Education states on its website, school board officials have given me a couple of additional bits of information when I have spoken to them on the phone. I shared those bits in the Wiki article on Calgary schooling. For example, I find it rather curious that, in the case of work permit holders, they treat only birth children of WP holders, and not adopted children of WP holders, the same as Canadian residents. At least two different people from CBE have told me that. I am gobsmacked that legally adopted children can be treated differently from birth children.
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Thanks Gaynor!

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Originally Posted by burton bunch
For Alberta if a child is a PR or the child of a WP holder they do not need a study permit - had this clarified by the lawyer

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We got work permit at port of entry calgary and our child goes playschool here and due to start Kindergarten in Sept. We were told by the immigration officer that we did not need a study permit. She printed on hubbies WP and also my visitors visa that she was accompanying us and is entitled to go to school.
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I visited 3 schools on my trip to Canada 2 weeks back. All the schools on the Halton District School Board have asked to see my WP. Not interested in study permits for the children. It does however say on the covering letter with the WP authorization that I should apply for study permits for the children when I get to Canada.
All very confusing. My plan is to arrive, get them into school and if the school want study permits I will then go and apply for them.
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