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Old Jul 9th 2012, 10:57 am
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Hi,

Can my wife (UK Citizen) work in Canada while we wait for the outland spousal sponsorship to be completed?

I am Canadian, and we are moving to Canada in late September, and we want to start the sponsorship process now (just waiting on the medical results to come back before sending off the forms), so I guess when we arrive in Canada, we need to apply for a TWP for my wife, so she can stay after the initial 6 months, but what about working?

Would it be better to apply inland, instead of outland?

Sorry for all the questions!

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Originally Posted by UKCamaroSS
Can my wife (UK Citizen) work in Canada while we wait for the outland spousal sponsorship to be completed?
Nope. She can accompany you, but will only be on a visitor visa, so unless she gets a TWP in her own right can't work at all.

Originally Posted by UKCamaroSS
I am Canadian, and we are moving to Canada in late September, and we want to start the sponsorship process now (just waiting on the medical results to come back before sending off the forms), so I guess when we arrive in Canada, we need to apply for a TWP for my wife, so she can stay after the initial 6 months, but what about working?
A TWP would enable her to work, but it's not something you can just 'apply for'. If you are doing an inland application, she'd get an open work permit but not until about 10 months have passed. And if you are doing an outland application, she'll need to jump through the usual hoops if she wants a TWP i.e. find an employer prepared to go through the hassle/wait/paperwork of hiring her, get the LMO, etc.

To be honest, by the time she's found a job offer, the employer has applied for the LMO (12-16 weeks going on current timeframes, unless they're eligible for the new Accelerated LMO program), then she may well have PR anyway.

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Would it be better to apply inland, instead of outland?
That's completely your choice. Most do it outland, just because of the speed, but it's up to you. What did you think after you'd read the Wiki article outlining the pros and cons of each route? Only you can say which pros/cons suit you better.

HTH a bit, best of luck.
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa

That's completely your choice. Most do it outland, just because of the speed, but it's up to you. What did you think after you'd read the Wiki article outlining the pros and cons of each route? Only you can say which pros/cons suit you better.

HTH a bit, best of luck.
Hi,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I was not aware the TWP was not easily applied for, so thanks for this info. This has confirmed our previous thought of applying Outland as our best approach.
Our only remaining concern going this route is with the length of application time - if it takes more than 6 months after arrivingin Canada, a return trip tot he Uk and back would be required, but in the grand scheme of things, thats perfectly fine for us.

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Originally Posted by UKCamaroSS
I was not aware the TWP was not easily applied for, so thanks for this info.
Only because it requires a job offer and LMO, which takes time and hassle. However, an Open Work Permit (which is a different thing) is what you would get with an inland spousal sponsorship application, and no job offer is required for this - but as mentioned above, your wife wouldn't get that until approx 10 months in to the application, so it takes a long time. Usually by then you'd have a completed application and she'd have PR if you'd done outland!

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Our only remaining concern going this route is with the length of application time - if it takes more than 6 months after arrivingin Canada, a return trip tot he Uk and back would be required, but in the grand scheme of things, thats perfectly fine for us.
Why would she need to return to the UK? You are aware that she could just apply online to extend her visitor visa? But if you apply now, then hopefully your wife would have PR before the six months is up anyway, going on recent timescales - although one thing you should note is that a visitor gets given up to six months on entry in to Canada, it's not always automatically six months.
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Only because it requires a job offer and LMO, which takes time and hassle. However, an Open Work Permit (which is a different thing) is what you would get with an inland spousal sponsorship application, and no job offer is required for this - but as mentioned above, your wife wouldn't get that until approx 10 months in to the application, so it takes a long time. Usually by then you'd have a completed application and she'd have PR if you'd done outland!



Why would she need to return to the UK? You are aware that she could just apply online to extend her visitor visa? But if you apply now, then hopefully your wife would have PR before the six months is up anyway, going on recent timescales - although one thing you should note is that a visitor gets given up to six months on entry in to Canada, it's not always automatically six months.
This is why I love British Expats... I had no clue the visitor visa could be extended online!
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This is why I love British Expats... I had no clue the visitor visa could be extended online!
Here you go - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/e-servi...tend-visit.asp

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And if you decide to do the outland application and you arrive in Canada and politely ask the CBSA officer if they would consider giving you a 12 month Visitor Record as you can show them proof of your citizenship and marriage certificate.
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Originally Posted by UKCamaroSS
Hi,

Can my wife (UK Citizen) work in Canada while we wait for the outland spousal sponsorship to be completed?

I am Canadian, and we are moving to Canada in late September, and we want to start the sponsorship process now (just waiting on the medical results to come back before sending off the forms), so I guess when we arrive in Canada, we need to apply for a TWP for my wife, so she can stay after the initial 6 months, but what about working?

Would it be better to apply inland, instead of outland?

Sorry for all the questions!

Thanks,
dont wait for the medical results to come back - nothing comes back. they will only call if further tests are needed. Just send off the form they gave you with the rest of the application. The results are forwarded directly to CIC
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dont wait for the medical results to come back - nothing comes back. they will only call if further tests are needed. Just send off the form they gave you with the rest of the application. The results are forwarded directly to CIC
Yep came to say the same thing after reading OP's first post - they don't send you the results - they would have given you a receipt and another sheet of paper that basically tells CIC "Yes x has his/her medical completed". When they give you that sheet, they keep another copy, which they send to CIC, then when CIC receives your application, they match up the two.

You say you aren't sure about applying inland or outland - when you completed your medical you had to specify which office was going to be processing your application - what did you put there?
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Sorry to gatecrash but I'm interested in this "inland" versus "outland" application.

I'm a british citizen and I've just arrived in Canada on the IEC program (it's actually my 2nd time having this visa) and I'm getting married in August to my canadian fiance. Obviously I'm living in Canada and will continue to do so after we're married. I notice on this page there are 2 tables. One for those who live in Canada and one for those who don't. As you can see the one for those who live in Canada is significantly longer. My visa is for 1 year so it's not likely to get processed in time.

Is it an option for me to get the "faster" route even though i'm in Canada and will be after our marriage? I've read the wiki page and it seems to suggest I can, with the downside being a potential trip to London for an interview. While inconvenient it's not really the end of the world. Am I reading correctly?

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Sorry to gatecrash but I'm interested in this "inland" versus "outland" application.

I'm a british citizen and I've just arrived in Canada on the IEC program (it's actually my 2nd time having this visa) and I'm getting married in August to my canadian fiance. Obviously I'm living in Canada and will continue to do so after we're married. I notice on this page there are 2 tables. One for those who live in Canada and one for those who don't. As you can see the one for those who live in Canada is significantly longer. My visa is for 1 year so it's not likely to get processed in time.

Is there an option for me to get the "faster" route even though i'm in Canada and will be after our marriage?
The outland is the fastest and yes you can do it while remaining in Canada
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http://britishexpats.com/wiki/Spousa...sorship-Canada
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Is it an option for me to get the "faster" route even though i'm in Canada and will be after our marriage? I've read the wiki page and it seems to suggest I can, with the downside being a potential trip to London for an interview. While inconvenient it's not really the end of the world. Am I reading correctly?
Yes.

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Only real downside to Outland apps if you're in Canada is that, for example, you send your application to the office in London (UK not Ontario), and you are requested to attend an interview then you'll have to arrange a flight to the UK at relatively short notice and obviously additional cost.
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Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly
Yep came to say the same thing after reading OP's first post - they don't send you the results - they would have given you a receipt and another sheet of paper that basically tells CIC "Yes x has his/her medical completed". When they give you that sheet, they keep another copy, which they send to CIC, then when CIC receives your application, they match up the two.

You say you aren't sure about applying inland or outland - when you completed your medical you had to specify which office was going to be processing your application - what did you put there?
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My wife went for her medical (via Outland route) - I wasn't sure we had said on the form, but you're correct, we indicated London, UK on the form.
Regarding the medical report, my wife was not handed any paperwork back except a receipt - we have contacted the Doctor in Birmingham and they have replied:
"Your copy (2) of the Section A form will be posted to you when your medicals have been processed and are couriered out. Your medicals will take approximately 10 working to be processed." Not sure if this is the norm, but hence why we were waiting for the results..

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Hi,

My wife went for her medical (via Outland route) - I wasn't sure we had said on the form, but you're correct, we indicated London, UK on the form.
Regarding the medical report, my wife was not handed any paperwork back except a receipt - we have contacted the Doctor in Birmingham and they have replied:
"Your copy (2) of the Section A form will be posted to you when your medicals have been processed and are couriered out. Your medicals will take approximately 10 working to be processed." Not sure if this is the norm, but hence why we were waiting for the results..

Thanks again,
you just need the receipt. no need to wait. I was given my copy of that form at the medical. You wont be given any results, unless anything flagged up in the tests
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