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Situation:

Nuno - Canadian Born Citizen, 34 years old, moved to Portugal in 1996. Officially
resident in Portugal since March 2001.

Catia - Portuguese Citizen, 26 years old, elementary school science/math teacher for
5 years, university course 4 years, and highly proficient in English.

Catia and Nuno got married in Portugal August 29, 1998.

We have two children which I assume just need certificates proving they are Canadian
Citizens as they were born to a Canadian parent.

Lived in Portugal ever since... visited Canada December 1999 for 2 weeks and July and
August 2002 for 6 weeks.


1. Nuno wants to sponsor Catia under spousal immigration.

2. Nuno is in the process of setting up a business in Canada and plans to move to
Canada permanently in February 2003. Nuno planned to move back to Canada
permanently in September of 2002 but had to return to Portugal to settle a
court case.

3. Nuno owned a business in Portugal and sold it and now wants to set up a new one
in Canada and maybe find work if the business does not provide enough income to
support family.

4. Catia wants to move Canada and continue teaching. She is fully qualified and
will likely be easily licenced by the Ontario College of Teachers. There is a
possibility of a job offer in March/April 2003 for the
5/2004 school year but it is likely she will only start full-time in the
6/2005 school year because of the time it will take to process her
immigration papers.

7. She has an Aunt/Uncle and 3 cousins who are all Canadian Citizens living in
Canada. Nuno has all of his immediate family (brother, sisters, parents) in
Canada and may do co-business ventures with them.

QUESTIONS:

a) Catia has a potential 75 points even without a job offer. Should she apply
independently or as a spouse? Or even for compassionate reasons (two young
children keep the family together)?

b) Should Nuno sponsor her from Portugal or from Canada? Does this make much
difference? Nuno has already renewed driver's licence and health card in August in
anticipation of moving to Canada in September 2002 but will only be able to move
to Canada in February 2003.

c) Can Catia come with the two children in July 2003 while her application is still
being processed? Can she stay until the papers are processed? What is the
likelihood of acceptance? How long might it take?

d) The immigration office for Portugal is in Paris. Paris is more expensive to go to
than Toronto from Portugal. Will she likely need an interview? If we apply from
within Canada, can she do the medical tests and interview in Canada? Vistor visa
and necessary extensions?

e) Nuno does not have a fixed income in Canada at the moment but can prove wage
earnings above average in Portugal for the business which was setup here and a
contract showing the business was sold for a substantial amount of money (the
money is now invested in the business for Canada). The business will be set up as
a corporation and may have income before February 2003. Will this be sufficient
to sponsor Catia? I know that for spousal sponsorship there is no need for the
sponsor to prove income but it is still an overall consideration for the
immigration officer, isn't it?

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Nuno

Andrew Miller

Spousal sponsorship is the best and trouble free option. As for rest of the questions
- please contact me directly.

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"..." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Situation:
    > Nuno - Canadian Born Citizen, 34 years old, moved to Portugal in 1996. Officially
    > resident in Portugal since March 2001.
    > Catia - Portuguese Citizen, 26 years old, elementary school science/math teacher
    > for 5 years, university course 4 years, and highly proficient in English.
    > Catia and Nuno got married in Portugal August 29, 1998.
    > We have two children which I assume just need certificates proving they are
    > Canadian Citizens as they were born to a Canadian parent.
    > Lived in Portugal ever since... visited Canada December 1999 for 2 weeks and July
    > and August 2002 for 6 weeks.
    > 1. Nuno wants to sponsor Catia under spousal immigration.
    > 2. Nuno is in the process of setting up a business in Canada and plans to move to
    > Canada permanently in February 2003. Nuno planned to move back to Canada
    > permanently in September of 2002 but had to return to Portugal to settle a
    > court case.
    > 3. Nuno owned a business in Portugal and sold it and now wants to set up a new one
    > in Canada and maybe find work if the business does not provide enough income to
    > support family.
    > 4. Catia wants to move Canada and continue teaching. She is fully qualified and
    > will likely be easily licenced by the Ontario College of Teachers. There is a
    > possibility of a job offer in March/April 2003 for the
    > 2003/2004 school year but it is likely she will only start full-time in the
    > 2004/2005 school year because of the time it will take to process her immigration
    > papers.
    > 5. She has an Aunt/Uncle and 3 cousins who are all Canadian Citizens living in
    > Canada. Nuno has all of his immediate family (brother, sisters, parents) in
    > Canada and may do co-business ventures with them.
    > QUESTIONS:
    > a) Catia has a potential 75 points even without a job offer. Should she apply
    > independently or as a spouse? Or even for compassionate reasons (two young
    > children keep the family together)?
    > b) Should Nuno sponsor her from Portugal or from Canada? Does this make much
    > difference? Nuno has already renewed driver's licence and health card in August
    > in anticipation of moving to Canada in September 2002 but will only be able to
    > move to Canada in February 2003.
    > c) Can Catia come with the two children in July 2003 while her application is still
    > being processed? Can she stay until the papers are processed? What is the
    > likelihood of acceptance? How long might it take?
    > d) The immigration office for Portugal is in Paris. Paris is more expensive to go
    > to than Toronto from Portugal. Will she likely need an interview? If we apply
    > from within Canada, can she do the medical tests and interview in Canada?
    > Vistor visa and necessary extensions?
    > e) Nuno does not have a fixed income in Canada at the moment but can prove wage
    > earnings above average in Portugal for the business which was setup here and a
    > contract showing the business was sold for a substantial amount of money (the
    > money is now invested in the business for Canada). The business will be set up
    > as a corporation and may have income before February 2003. Will this be
    > sufficient to sponsor Catia? I know that for spousal sponsorship there is no
    > need for the sponsor to prove income but it is still an overall consideration
    > for the immigration officer, isn't it?
    > Thanks in advance for any advice,
    > Nuno

Ron Beirnes

On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:13:41 +0100, "..." <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Situation:
    >Nuno - Canadian Born Citizen, 34 years old, moved to Portugal in 1996. Officially
    >resident in Portugal since March 2001.
    >Catia - Portuguese Citizen, 26 years old, elementary school science/math teacher for
    >5 years, university course 4 years, and highly proficient in English.
    >Catia and Nuno got married in Portugal August 29, 1998.
    >We have two children which I assume just need certificates proving they are Canadian
    >Citizens as they were born to a Canadian parent.
    >Lived in Portugal ever since... visited Canada December 1999 for 2 weeks and July
    >and August 2002 for 6 weeks.
    >1. Nuno wants to sponsor Catia under spousal immigration.
As a Canadian citizen he has the option to complete the sponsorship while living in
Portugal provided it is his intent to immediately return to Canada when the
processing is complete.
    >2. Nuno is in the process of setting up a business in Canada and plans to move to
    > Canada permanently in February 2003. Nuno planned to move back to Canada
    > permanently in September of 2002 but had to return to Portugal to settle a court
    > case.
    >3. Nuno owned a business in Portugal and sold it and now wants to set up a new one
    > in Canada and maybe find work if the business does not provide enough income to
    > support family.
    >4. Catia wants to move Canada and continue teaching. She is fully qualified and
    > will likely be easily licenced by the Ontario College of Teachers. There is a
    > possibility of a job offer in March/April 2003 for the
    >2003/2004 school year but it is likely she will only start full-time in the
    >2004/2005 school year because of the time it will take to process her immigration
    > papers.
    >5. She has an Aunt/Uncle and 3 cousins who are all Canadian Citizens living in
    > Canada. Nuno has all of his immediate family (brother, sisters, parents) in
    > Canada and may do co-business ventures with them.
    >QUESTIONS:
    >a) Catia has a potential 75 points even without a job offer. Should she apply
    > independently or as a spouse? Or even for compassionate reasons (two young
    > children keep the family together)?
Absloutely no question apply as spouse there are no selection standards and the
process for a spouse has a much higher processing priority than a skilled worker
application.
    >b) Should Nuno sponsor her from Portugal or from Canada? Does this make much
    > difference? Nuno has already renewed driver's licence and health card in August
    > in anticipation of moving to Canada in September 2002 but will only be able to
    > move to Canada in February 2003.
See 1 he can return to Canada and submit an application or simply do the application
for Canadians residing abroad with the intention to return.

    >c) Can Catia come with the two children in July 2003 while her application is still
    > being processed? Can she stay until the papers are processed? What is the
    > likelihood of acceptance? How long might it take?
The children are Canadian and can come into Canada as of right, with respect to Catia
if she requires a visa the office might question the bona fides of her visit and if
she says that she is staying until the papers are processed she is an immigrant and
not a visitor and this might be difficult for her.
    >d) The immigration office for Portugal is in Paris. Paris is more expensive to go
    > to than Toronto from Portugal. Will she likely need an interview? If we apply
    > from within Canada, can she do the medical tests and interview in Canada? Vistor
    > visa and necessary extensions?
If she makes her way to Canada you can apply within Canada and all of the process is
conducted locally with respect to medicals and interview which in most spousal cases
is not necessary. The same applies for Paris she would not likely have to attend at
an interview and in most cases it would be held in Lisbon if required.
    >e) Nuno does not have a fixed income in Canada at the moment but can prove wage
    > earnings above average in Portugal for the business which was setup here and a
    > contract showing the business was sold for a substantial amount of money (the
    > money is now invested in the business for Canada). The business will be set up
    > as a corporation and may have income before February 2003. Will this be
    > sufficient to sponsor Catia? I know that for spousal sponsorship there is no need
    > for the sponsor to prove income but it is still an overall consideration for the
    > immigration officer, isn't it?
Spousal application does not have to meet a financial standard applicable to parents
and grandparents. The information you indicated should be satisfactory. A person
could be refused if the officer fees the person would become a public charge so yes
it is a consideration however what you have indicated should alleviate any concerns
the immigration officer might have.

    >Thanks in advance for any advice,
    >Nuno
    >Ron Beirnes
R.B. Global Immigration Consultants Ltd. 1540-1100 Melville St. Vancouver, BC V6E 4A6
Phone (604) 688-3081 fax 688-3015 email [email protected] Webb page
http://www3.telus.net/rbglobal

Berto Volpentesta

If the sponsor can demonstrate that he will be living in Canada then the best is to
sponsor as a spouse.

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All responses IMHO and no one else's.

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"..." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Situation:
    > Nuno - Canadian Born Citizen, 34 years old, moved to Portugal in 1996. Officially
    > resident in Portugal since March 2001.
    > Catia - Portuguese Citizen, 26 years old, elementary school science/math teacher
    > for 5 years, university course 4 years, and highly proficient in English.
    > Catia and Nuno got married in Portugal August 29, 1998.
    > We have two children which I assume just need certificates proving they
are
    > Canadian Citizens as they were born to a Canadian parent.
    > Lived in Portugal ever since... visited Canada December 1999 for 2 weeks
and
    > July and August 2002 for 6 weeks.
    > 1. Nuno wants to sponsor Catia under spousal immigration.
    > 2. Nuno is in the process of setting up a business in Canada and plans to move to
    > Canada permanently in February 2003. Nuno planned to move back to Canada
    > permanently in September of 2002 but had to return to Portugal to settle a
    > court case.
    > 3. Nuno owned a business in Portugal and sold it and now wants to set up
a
    > new one in Canada and maybe find work if the business does not provide enough
    > income to support family.
    > 4. Catia wants to move Canada and continue teaching. She is fully qualified and
    > will likely be easily licenced by the Ontario College of Teachers. There is a
    > possibility of a job offer in March/April 2003 for
the
    > 2003/2004 school year but it is likely she will only start full-time in
the
    > 2004/2005 school year because of the time it will take to process her immigration
    > papers.
    > 5. She has an Aunt/Uncle and 3 cousins who are all Canadian Citizens
living
    > in Canada. Nuno has all of his immediate family (brother, sisters,
parents)
    > in Canada and may do co-business ventures with them.
    > QUESTIONS:
    > a) Catia has a potential 75 points even without a job offer. Should she apply
    > independently or as a spouse? Or even for compassionate reasons
(two
    > young children keep the family together)?
    > b) Should Nuno sponsor her from Portugal or from Canada? Does this make much
    > difference? Nuno has already renewed driver's licence and health card in August
    > in anticipation of moving to Canada in September 2002 but will only be able to
    > move to Canada in February 2003.
    > c) Can Catia come with the two children in July 2003 while her application is still
    > being processed? Can she stay until the papers are processed?
What
    > is the likelihood of acceptance? How long might it take?
    > d) The immigration office for Portugal is in Paris. Paris is more
expensive
    > to go to than Toronto from Portugal. Will she likely need an interview?
If
    > we apply from within Canada, can she do the medical tests and interview in Canada?
    > Vistor visa and necessary extensions?
    > e) Nuno does not have a fixed income in Canada at the moment but can prove wage
    > earnings above average in Portugal for the business which was setup here and a
    > contract showing the business was sold for a substantial amount of money (the
    > money is now invested in the business for Canada). The business will be set up
    > as a corporation and may have income before
February
    > 2003. Will this be sufficient to sponsor Catia? I know that for spousal
    > sponsorship there is no need for the sponsor to prove income but it is
still
    > an overall consideration for the immigration officer, isn't it?
    > Thanks in advance for any advice,
    > Nuno

...

Thank you for your prompt replies. I will contact you personally by email on
the weekend.

Nuno


"" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Situation:
    > Nuno - Canadian Born Citizen, 34 years old, moved to Portugal in 1996. Officially
    > resident in Portugal since March 2001.
    > Catia - Portuguese Citizen, 26 years old, elementary school science/math teacher
    > for 5 years, university course 4 years, and highly proficient in English.
    > Catia and Nuno got married in Portugal August 29, 1998.
    > We have two children which I assume just need certificates proving they
are
    > Canadian Citizens as they were born to a Canadian parent.
    > Lived in Portugal ever since... visited Canada December 1999 for 2 weeks
and
    > July and August 2002 for 6 weeks.
    > 1. Nuno wants to sponsor Catia under spousal immigration.
    > 2. Nuno is in the process of setting up a business in Canada and plans to move to
    > Canada permanently in February 2003. Nuno planned to move back to Canada
    > permanently in September of 2002 but had to return to Portugal to settle a
    > court case.
    > 3. Nuno owned a business in Portugal and sold it and now wants to set up
a
    > new one in Canada and maybe find work if the business does not provide enough
    > income to support family.
    > 4. Catia wants to move Canada and continue teaching. She is fully qualified and
    > will likely be easily licenced by the Ontario College of Teachers. There is a
    > possibility of a job offer in March/April 2003 for
the
    > 2003/2004 school year but it is likely she will only start full-time in
the
    > 2004/2005 school year because of the time it will take to process her immigration
    > papers.
    > 5. She has an Aunt/Uncle and 3 cousins who are all Canadian Citizens
living
    > in Canada. Nuno has all of his immediate family (brother, sisters,
parents)
    > in Canada and may do co-business ventures with them.
    > QUESTIONS:
    > a) Catia has a potential 75 points even without a job offer. Should she apply
    > independently or as a spouse? Or even for compassionate reasons
(two
    > young children keep the family together)?
    > b) Should Nuno sponsor her from Portugal or from Canada? Does this make much
    > difference? Nuno has already renewed driver's licence and health card in August
    > in anticipation of moving to Canada in September 2002 but will only be able to
    > move to Canada in February 2003.
    > c) Can Catia come with the two children in July 2003 while her application is still
    > being processed? Can she stay until the papers are processed?
What
    > is the likelihood of acceptance? How long might it take?
    > d) The immigration office for Portugal is in Paris. Paris is more
expensive
    > to go to than Toronto from Portugal. Will she likely need an interview?
If
    > we apply from within Canada, can she do the medical tests and interview in Canada?
    > Vistor visa and necessary extensions?
    > e) Nuno does not have a fixed income in Canada at the moment but can prove wage
    > earnings above average in Portugal for the business which was setup here and a
    > contract showing the business was sold for a substantial amount of money (the
    > money is now invested in the business for Canada). The business will be set up
    > as a corporation and may have income before
February
    > 2003. Will this be sufficient to sponsor Catia? I know that for spousal
    > sponsorship there is no need for the sponsor to prove income but it is
still
    > an overall consideration for the immigration officer, isn't it?
    > Thanks in advance for any advice,
    > Nuno