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Old Mar 3rd 2003, 3:59 pm
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anyone can help me??? i have some questions about sponsoring my future spouse.

we're getting married this coming april and we're planning to file the sponsorship right away after the wedding.

1. do we need to change first our passport to reflect that i changed my surname and his status as well when we filed this document?

2. he got a visitor's visa and he's planning to visit his brother a week after the wedding and at the same time stay with me for a month. can he do his medical here too?

3. he studied in US and we applied for his state and FBI police clearance. we got the FBI but the Lousiana State Police Clearance was sent to Ontario. I faxed them to return it back to my future spouse but no reply yet. How can i get it back or should i just call them to give me a reference number or something so we don't need to apply again? since there's no on-going application yet, we just applied this so it's quite easy to file and gather all documents at the same time.

your ideas will be very much appreciated.

EJV
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Old Mar 3rd 2003, 5:25 pm
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You seem to be going about things properly. If this is to be an overseas
processed case, you should submit the sponsorship as soon as you are
married. You can and should do the work beforehand to speed things up.
Ther is a lot to do so get cracking!
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"ejv0511" wrote in message
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    > anyone can help me??? i have some questions about sponsoring my
    > future spouse.
    > we're getting married this coming april and we're planning to file the
    > sponsorship right away after the wedding.
    > 1. do we need to change first our passport to reflect that i changed my
    > surname and his status as well when we filed this document?
    > 2. he got a visitor's visa and he's planning to visit his brother a week
    > after the wedding and at the same time stay with me for a month. can
    > he do his medical here too?
    > 3. he studied in US and we applied for his state and FBI police
    > clearance. we got the FBI but the Lousiana State Police Clearance
    > was sent to Ontario. I faxed them to return it back to my future
    > spouse but no reply yet. How can i get it back or should i just call
    > them to give me a reference number or something so we don't need to
    > apply again? since there's no on-going application yet, we just
    > applied this so it's quite easy to file and gather all documents at
    > the same time.
    > your ideas will be very much appreciated.
    > EJV
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Old Mar 4th 2003, 7:06 am
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Jim if you look at this the other way, that he is coming to Canada to get
married and therefore immigrate. Would, could(?) what they have done be held
against him in theory?

"...he got a visitor's visa and he's planning to visit his brother a week
after the wedding and at the same time stay with me for a month. "

Sounds like he could be entering the country under a visitor's visa with the
intention to immigrate. Assuming he is an American, he wouldn't need a visa
would he?

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"Jim Humphries" wrote in message
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    > You seem to be going about things properly. If this is to be an overseas
    > processed case, you should submit the sponsorship as soon as you are
    > married. You can and should do the work beforehand to speed things up.
    > Ther is a lot to do so get cracking!
    > --
    > Jim Humphries, former visa officer
    > "ejv0511" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > anyone can help me??? i have some questions about sponsoring my
    > > future spouse.
    > >
    > > we're getting married this coming april and we're planning to file the
    > > sponsorship right away after the wedding.
    > >
    > > 1. do we need to change first our passport to reflect that i changed my
    > > surname and his status as well when we filed this document?
    > >
    > > 2. he got a visitor's visa and he's planning to visit his brother a week
    > > after the wedding and at the same time stay with me for a month. can
    > > he do his medical here too?
    > >
    > > 3. he studied in US and we applied for his state and FBI police
    > > clearance. we got the FBI but the Lousiana State Police Clearance
    > > was sent to Ontario. I faxed them to return it back to my future
    > > spouse but no reply yet. How can i get it back or should i just call
    > > them to give me a reference number or something so we don't need to
    > > apply again? since there's no on-going application yet, we just
    > > applied this so it's quite easy to file and gather all documents at
    > > the same time.
    > >
    > > your ideas will be very much appreciated.
    > >
    > > EJV
    > >
    > > --
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Old Mar 4th 2003, 3:34 pm
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we're not getting married in Canada. we're getting married in my home country. Im a permanent resident here for 1 1/2 year. He don't have any intention to stay here for illegal reason. He just need to visit his brother in Calgary. The question that I posted is that a coincidence that he's coming here to visit his brother and at the same time, im gonna file the sponsorship after i got back from the wedding. Just for clarification....
Your ideas will be very much appreciated.
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Old Mar 4th 2003, 6:05 pm
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Hope you didn't take my post in the wrong way. I was not trying to imply
anything about you, or your future spouse. Was just curious how doing
basically the same thing in a different way could be taken. Or to put it
another way, if I intend to marry a Canadian, what is the correct way to
enter the country? And being somewhat old fashion, if I would like to get
down on my knees and ask, e.g. I don't know the answer before hand? Seems
like in my country, there might not be a legal way of doing that.

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    > we're not getting married in Canada. we're getting married in my home
    > country. Im a permanent resident here for 1 1/2 year. He don't have any
    > intention to stay here for illegal reason. He just need to visit his
    > brother in Calgary. The question that I posted is that a coincidence
    > that he's coming here to visit his brother and at the same time, im
    > gonna file the sponsorship after i got back from the wedding. Just for
    > clarification....
    > Your ideas will be very much appreciated.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Mar 4th 2003, 6:05 pm
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Hope you didn't take my post in the wrong way. I was not trying to imply
anything about you, or your future spouse. Was just curious how doing
basically the same thing in a different way could be taken. Or to put it
another way, if I intend to marry a Canadian, what is the correct way to
enter the country? And being somewhat old fashion, if I would like to get
down on my knees and ask, e.g. I don't know the answer before hand? Seems
like in my country, there might not be a legal way of doing that.

--
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"ejv0511" wrote in message
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    > we're not getting married in Canada. we're getting married in my home
    > country. Im a permanent resident here for 1 1/2 year. He don't have any
    > intention to stay here for illegal reason. He just need to visit his
    > brother in Calgary. The question that I posted is that a coincidence
    > that he's coming here to visit his brother and at the same time, im
    > gonna file the sponsorship after i got back from the wedding. Just for
    > clarification....
    > Your ideas will be very much appreciated.
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Mar 5th 2003, 1:06 am
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nop, it's not an issue for me. Your ideas is very much appreciated.
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Old Mar 6th 2003, 3:50 pm
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Feeling pretty alone out here without my wife : ( Any newly wed who are
going through the sponsorship process like I? Does anybody know how long
something like this would take? My wife is from Russia. Thank you for
reading this message.

Sincerely,
Henry
 
Old Mar 6th 2003, 4:21 pm
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Do not worry, there will be an end to the process eventually. My wife is
Canadian and I am from the UK. we met several years ago an i visited often
and we got married in summer 2001. However I could not remain there to apply
for PR right away as I still had a year or so left of my degree to complete
back in the UK so we didnt start the process until early in 2002 and due to
delays with the laws swapping over etc i didn't get my visa until a few
weeks ago. So it can seem like an eternity and that the day will never
arrive but eventually it will and then you, or rather your wife, will be
like me runnign around trying to arrange all the stuff you can't finalise
until you get your visa like booking flights and insurance and arranging the
shipping of any personal possessions and all that kinda stuff and after
feeling like you were waiting for ever it then seems like everything is
happeneing too fast.

It is kind of like waiting for anything significatn, say waiting for a
birthday or christmas to arrive, you wait all year and your expectations
grow and you feel like teh day will never arrive and then all of a sudden it
is upon you and before you know it the day has passed and you wonder why it
seemed like such a wait.


"Ye-Hsiung Lee" wrote in message
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    > Feeling pretty alone out here without my wife : ( Any newly wed who are
    > going through the sponsorship process like I? Does anybody know how long
    > something like this would take? My wife is from Russia. Thank you for
    > reading this message.
    > Sincerely,
    > Henry
 
Old Mar 6th 2003, 4:27 pm
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better don't ask, just wait
sometimes better not to know the "whole truth"
we're in our second year(Nov,01)
Apparently, it can be between 8months, or 3 years even
Over a year for sure I would risk guessing.
Going through Moscow sucks bad
good luck!
cs

On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 16:50:23 GMT, "Ye-Hsiung Lee"
wrote:

    >Feeling pretty alone out here without my wife : ( Any newly wed who are
    >going through the sponsorship process like I? Does anybody know how long
    >something like this would take? My wife is from Russia. Thank you for
    >reading this message.
    >Sincerely,
    >Henry
 
Old Mar 6th 2003, 4:48 pm
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Ok I have a question for you, on shipping? Have you thought much about this
or looked into it much? What kind of things do you find it worth while
shipping, and what might it be better to sell and replace?

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"The Wizzard" wrote in message
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    > Do not worry, there will be an end to the process eventually. My wife is
    > Canadian and I am from the UK. we met several years ago an i visited often
    > and we got married in summer 2001. However I could not remain there to
apply
    > for PR right away as I still had a year or so left of my degree to
complete
    > back in the UK so we didnt start the process until early in 2002 and due
to
    > delays with the laws swapping over etc i didn't get my visa until a few
    > weeks ago. So it can seem like an eternity and that the day will never
    > arrive but eventually it will and then you, or rather your wife, will be
    > like me runnign around trying to arrange all the stuff you can't finalise
    > until you get your visa like booking flights and insurance and arranging
the
    > shipping of any personal possessions and all that kinda stuff and after
    > feeling like you were waiting for ever it then seems like everything is
    > happeneing too fast.
    > It is kind of like waiting for anything significatn, say waiting for a
    > birthday or christmas to arrive, you wait all year and your expectations
    > grow and you feel like teh day will never arrive and then all of a sudden
it
    > is upon you and before you know it the day has passed and you wonder why
it
    > seemed like such a wait.
    > "Ye-Hsiung Lee" wrote in message
    > news:j%[email protected]...
    > > Feeling pretty alone out here without my wife : ( Any newly wed who are
    > > going through the sponsorship process like I? Does anybody know how
long
    > > something like this would take? My wife is from Russia. Thank you for
    > > reading this message.
    > >
    > > Sincerely,
    > > Henry
    > >
    > >
 
Old Mar 6th 2003, 4:49 pm
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Wizzard, a pleasant message, but the truth is different I feel.
There is no equation between UK and Russia.
He will have no chance to see her on visitors visa, student visa, etc.
I cost me a few K's to find it out, especially that my then fiancee
and currently wife is from Kazakhstan, each time she had to fly to
Moscow, at US$600 to be just treated like second class person!
If that would happen in Canada, just think how much one could sue for
similar treatment!
The whole process is disgusting and intimidating in my opinion.
I wish I had enough dollars left to sue that part of this government!
The only good thing about the whole thing is, that Henry will have a
chance to travel around the world, trying to see his fiancee, as I
did. In my case, a little bit over 40K spent.
They get the 1500 from processing fees, etc. They let the thousands to
go in hands of travel agencies and air-lines around the globe.
Nice logic eh?

Henry, sorry for that mean tone, but it's going to be difficult.
I think, your target is not to feel good about the process, rather
just get her here.
Be ready for a struggle and cost associated with this.
Do:
1.fill out all forms, make payments, etc. on time, promptly,
accurately and politely
2. gather all documentation about your relationship
3. submit promptly what is requested and always keep copies
4. as much as possible, follow up and check if it was received and
"processed"
5. don't depend on that e-client status, they still trying to figure
out ASP scripting I think
6. keep in mind that they have the right to screw up, but you don't
so check on them as much as possible(not much is, unfortunately)

Do not:
1. lie
2. lose patience
3. read Franz Kafka
good luck anyways!
cs


On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:21:51 -0000, "The Wizzard"
wrote:

    >Do not worry, there will be an end to the process eventually. My wife is
    >Canadian and I am from the UK. we met several years ago an i visited often
    >and we got married in summer 2001. However I could not remain there to apply
    >for PR right away as I still had a year or so left of my degree to complete
    >back in the UK so we didnt start the process until early in 2002 and due to
    >delays with the laws swapping over etc i didn't get my visa until a few
    >weeks ago. So it can seem like an eternity and that the day will never
    >arrive but eventually it will and then you, or rather your wife, will be
    >like me runnign around trying to arrange all the stuff you can't finalise
    >until you get your visa like booking flights and insurance and arranging the
    >shipping of any personal possessions and all that kinda stuff and after
    >feeling like you were waiting for ever it then seems like everything is
    >happeneing too fast.
    >It is kind of like waiting for anything significatn, say waiting for a
    >birthday or christmas to arrive, you wait all year and your expectations
    >grow and you feel like teh day will never arrive and then all of a sudden it
    >is upon you and before you know it the day has passed and you wonder why it
    >seemed like such a wait.
    >"Ye-Hsiung Lee" wrote in message
    >news:j%[email protected]...
    >> Feeling pretty alone out here without my wife : ( Any newly wed who are
    >> going through the sponsorship process like I? Does anybody know how long
    >> something like this would take? My wife is from Russia. Thank you for
    >> reading this message.
    >> Sincerely,
    >> Henry
 
Old Mar 6th 2003, 5:29 pm
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David Hettel wrote:
    >
    > Ok I have a question for you, on shipping? Have you thought much about this
    > or looked into it much? What kind of things do you find it worth while
    > shipping, and what might it be better to sell and replace?
    >
    > --
    > David Hettel

We've moved internationally several times, and in general, because used
furniture and stuff has so little value, that it is generally cheaper to
ship than "sell and replace".

Moving transatlantic, the important things to shed were appliances and
electronics that did not specifically indicate that it was usable in N.
America (i.e. 110V 60Hz ... usually referenced as 100-250V 50-60Hz)

Also, we found that the difference in shipping in a container between a
half container shared and a whole container to ourselves packed and
loaded by ourself was negligible. (The extra cost of a mover loading
half a container made up the difference).

Moving to/from the US, what was most important was really to just not
move stuff you weren't going to use again, because, using a mover,
you're paying usually by weight. Moving by a U-Haul, your cost is
partly weight (a full truck uses more fuel than a half full truck), and
a smaller truck is cheaper than a bigger one (or two trucks!).

Unless you really intend to replace stuff anyway, I wouldn't bother.
What you own is probably cheaper than what you don't - especially at a
time when you have to live on your savings until you get employment.

Stuart
 
Old Mar 6th 2003, 10:13 pm
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I'd pretty much go with what Stuart said, and really it depends ho wmuch
stuff you have. If you are moving an entire family and house then it's
pretty straightforward like Stuart said you get a container and put
everything you own in it because above a certain amount it's as cost
effective to take a whole container as to take half or 3/4 etc.
the only reason a mover might be useful is if you live reasonably far from
any port and don't have any way to get your belongings if you dont get door
to door delivery.

That is one thing i found and to be honest between the firms i have had
quotes from there was not enough difference between the ones that wanted me
to pack and load an dinventory myself and the ones who would do it fo rme,
plus the ones who do it themselves have a lower insurance rate because they
trust their own packers more.

My main issue was that I don't have too much stuff, because I am moving as
an individual and have been at university etc i dont own a huose or have any
furniture to take etc. However it is too much to send myself via airfreight
because i do have a few guitars and a hell of a lot of books that make the
weight/volume prices on air freight excessive.

I've put everything i own on the goods to follo wlist, even if i am not
shipping it in case i change my mind later, so things that i initially am
not taking such as the PAL VCR and portable TV are still on my goods to
follow list in case i ever have enough money on a whim to ship em over and
set up a closed circuit PAL system in my basement or something, same with
some speakers and videos etc, gonna box em up and leave them in my parents
attic or soemthing and maybe get them later if i can afford it. So basically
I am shipping my computer seperatly by fedex because i want it there asap
and they do a standard price fedex 25Kg crate to north america that isnt
much more expensive than air freight and is door to door so saves me having
to rent a car to go get it from the airport. My clothes and stuff 90% of
them anyway will go in my suitcases etc when i actually move. So basically
my shipping list consists of my 2 guitars and a set of golf clubs and then
boxes of books, CD's and general personal possessions liek papers and the
stuff from desk drawers, a few ornamental things and you know odds and ends
that just fill up a couple of tea chests and what have you.

One killer is insurance, the firm i have chosen has a rate of 2.5% of total
insurade value which isnt too bad some go up to 3.5% or 4% especially if you
pack it yoruself. So my goods come to a value of about £4000 so i end up
with about another £100 on top of the removal fee in insurance, but knowing
my luck if i chose to not insure mine would be the boat that sank hehe. The
firm I have chosen to use, after ringing round tonnes over this week is
called The International Moving Company which is a kind of association of
BAR member movers from acros sthe UK, they refer you to their nearest member
who sorts you out.
http://www.the-removal-company.com/international/

They gave me the best quote and were very friendly and sent the quote and
paperwork in the mail that arrived teh next day and so forth, whereas some
other firms havent even called back after i called them for a quote etc.

Drew





"David Hettel" wrote in message
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    > Ok I have a question for you, on shipping? Have you thought much about
this
    > or looked into it much? What kind of things do you find it worth while
    > shipping, and what might it be better to sell and replace?
    > --
    > David Hettel
 
Old Mar 7th 2003, 4:03 pm
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"The Wizzard" wrote:
    > so things that i initially am
    > not taking such as the PAL VCR and portable TV are still on my goods to
    > follow list in case i ever have enough money on a whim to ship em over and
    > set up a closed circuit PAL system in my basement or something, same with
    > some speakers and videos etc, gonna box em up and leave them in my parents
    > attic or soemthing and maybe get them later if i can afford it.

First: congrats on getting your visa.
Second: Good points, but about the takle/leave decision on euro
eqipment I'd like to point something out, though.
When I moved back to the UK I took all my stuff with me including my
north american appliances. I figured worst case scenario I could leave
them in boxes and bring them back again, because re-buying everything
would be about the same as the price of a container.

What I did when I got there was to buy a couple of 1000W voltage
converters 110-240V, which worked beautifully. I will use the same
thing in reverse over here (Canada). I want to take my PAL kit with me
because my euro TV does both PAL and NTSC and so does my VCR and DVD
Player...
 


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