Leslie Lakos

Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL OF
YOU!!!!!!

Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person called Karen
Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by then... For days
she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the immigration
consultants all are. For days she's been showing her "ever-so-great" concern
over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.

Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the unsuspecting
immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of you, all of
us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!

The following segment's web address is:
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church in Quebec
City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY FRIENDS. Here
it goes;

Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
Author: E. Barry Bruyea
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
Bytes: 1290
Lines: 27
References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected] .rogers.com>
X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10 Mar 2004
15:54:10 EST)
XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:

    >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those who are
denied
    >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do hope that
this
    >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration decisions and
    >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when are persons
    >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?

Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS is "our"
Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment. Yes, to
THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"

Cheers;
--
Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
Tel: 416 876-6072
Fax: 416 489-5244
email: [email protected]

Ashok

Leslie

The link given by you,is not working.

Dick Turpin

And I also wonder where did this Leslie Lakos herself appear from?
I don't remember her being around before.
I certainly haven't seen her answer questions like Jim, Andrew, PMM and
others.
She seems to have appeared precisely at the same time as Karen Gordon.

hmm....a mystery worth Monsieur Hercule Poirot himself !

"Ashok" <member18804@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Leslie
    > The link given by you,is not working.
    > Originally
    > posted by Leslie Lakos
    > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I
    > GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL OF
    > > YOU!!!!!!
    > >
    > > Just like you all, I too
    > want to forget about this er... person called Karen
    > > Gordon . However,
    > chances are that she'll be back. But, by then... For days
    > > she has been
    > bashing all of us as to how crooked we the immigration
    > > consultants all
    > are. For days she's been showing her "ever-so-great" concern
    > > over
    > "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > >
    > > Let me
    > show you just how sympathetic she is toward the unsuspecting
    > >
    > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of you, all
    > of
    > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > >
    > >
    > The following segment's web address is:
    > > http://news.myexcel.com-
    > /group/mtl.general/artBodyUsenet.tpt/@article@100420"]http://news.myexc-
    > el.com/group/mtl.general/artBodyUsenet.tpt/@article@100420[/url]
    > > This
    > is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church in Quebec
    > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY
    > FRIENDS. Here
    > > it goes;
    > >
    > > Re: Should churches be shielding
    > 'refugees'?
    > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > Bytes: 1290
    > > Lines: 27
    > > References:
    > <[email protected]>
    > >
    > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > X-
    > Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10 Mar
    > 2004
    > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320
    > bc.politics:239049
    > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > On Wed,
    > 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > >
    > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote
    > in message
    > > >news:[email protected]"]ne-
    > ws:[email protected][/url]...
    > > >> (K): Just
    > another example of the many, many ways that those who are
    > > denied
    > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do
    > hope that
    > > this
    > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches
    > making immigration decisions and
    > > >> judgments as to a
    > person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when are persons
    > > >>
    > coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > >
    > > Should
    > the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS is "our"
    > >
    > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment. Yes, to
    > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > >
    > > Cheers;
    > > --
    > > Leslie Lakos -
    > Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > Fax: 416 489-
    > 5244
    > email: [email protected]
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Leslie Lakos

My Dear insidious friend Karen,

Unlike you, I DO have the guts to reveal my contact number, etc. Would you
kindly give me a call? You see, that way neither you, nor I will bother
those, who use their times to HELPING instead of accusing...
Now my lady, you'll do that, wouldn't you?

Leslie Lakos

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
"Just because one can't swim, one shouldn't call the water stupid...."


Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
Tel: 416 876-6072
Fax: 416 489-5244
email: [email protected]
"Dick Turpin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > And I also wonder where did this Leslie Lakos herself appear from?
    > I don't remember her being around before.
    > I certainly haven't seen her answer questions like Jim, Andrew, PMM and
    > others.
    > She seems to have appeared precisely at the same time as Karen Gordon.
    > hmm....a mystery worth Monsieur Hercule Poirot himself !
    > "Ashok" <member18804@british_expats.com> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > Leslie
    > >
    > > The link given by you,is not working.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Originally
    > > posted by Leslie Lakos
    > > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I
    > > GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL OF
    > > > YOU!!!!!!
    > > >
    > > > Just like you all, I too
    > > want to forget about this er... person called Karen
    > > > Gordon . However,
    > > chances are that she'll be back. But, by then... For days
    > > > she has been
    > > bashing all of us as to how crooked we the immigration
    > > > consultants all
    > > are. For days she's been showing her "ever-so-great" concern
    > > > over
    > > "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > > >
    > > > Let me
    > > show you just how sympathetic she is toward the unsuspecting
    > > >
    > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of you, all
    > > of
    > > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > > >
    > > >
    > > The following segment's web address is:
    > > > http://news.myexcel.com-
    > > /group/mtl.general/artBodyUsenet.tpt/@article@100420"]http://news.myexc-
    > > el.com/group/mtl.general/artBodyUsenet.tpt/@article@100420[/url]
    > > > This
    > > is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church in Quebec
    > >
    > > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY
    > > FRIENDS. Here
    > > > it goes;
    > > >
    > > > Re: Should churches be shielding
    > > 'refugees'?
    > > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > >
    > > > Bytes: 1290
    > > > Lines: 27
    > > > References:
    > > <[email protected]>
    > > >
    > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > > X-
    > > Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10 Mar
    > > 2004
    > > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320
    > > bc.politics:239049
    > > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > > On Wed,
    > > 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote
    > > in message
    > > > >news:[email protected]"]ne-
    > > ws:[email protected][/url]...
    > > > >> (K): Just
    > > another example of the many, many ways that those who are
    > > > denied
    > >
    > > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do
    > > hope that
    > > > this
    > > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches
    > > making immigration decisions and
    > > > >> judgments as to a
    > > person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when are persons
    > > > >>
    > > coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > > >
    > > > Should
    > > the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS is "our"
    > > >
    > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment. Yes, to
    > >
    > > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > > >
    > > > Cheers;
    > > > --
    > > > Leslie Lakos -
    > > Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > Fax: 416 489-
    > > 5244
    > > email: [email protected]
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

James Metcalfe

I could not resist asking this question : Certified by whom?????


Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant





"Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL OF
    > YOU!!!!!!
    > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person called
Karen
    > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by then... For
days
    > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the immigration
    > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her "ever-so-great"
concern
    > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the unsuspecting
    > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of you, all
of
    > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > The following segment's web address is:
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church in
Quebec
    > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY FRIENDS.
Here
    > it goes;
    > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > Bytes: 1290
    > Lines: 27
    > References: <[email protected]>
    > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10 Mar
2004
    > 15:54:10 EST)
    > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > >news:[email protected]...
    > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those who are
    > denied
    > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do hope that
    > this
    > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration decisions
and
    > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when are
persons
    > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS is
"our"
    > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment. Yes, to
    > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > Cheers;
    > --
    > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > email: [email protected]

Andrew Miller

Jim, probably Leslie is a graduate of Seneca's Immigration Practitioner
Certificate Program. So, if he graduated and holds the certificate then he
may call himself Certified Immigration Practitioner.

As we all know it won't be enough to represent applicants for a fee before
CIC, IRB and IAD after IRPA regs are amended in April - membership in CSIC
or Provincial/Territorial law society will be required. And I remember
Leslie in previous posts indicated being a "CSIC Constituent" - little bit
premature as there are no members yet, only applicants for membership at
various stages of the process. So far CSIC didn't even provide us (those who
already passed exams and submitted police certificates) with final
documentary requirements and instructions how to finalize the process, they
promised to do it by the end of this week... we'll see.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I could not resist asking this question : Certified by whom?????
    > Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant
    > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL OF
    > > YOU!!!!!!
    > >
    > > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person called
    > Karen
    > > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by then... For
    > days
    > > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the immigration
    > > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her "ever-so-great"
    > concern
    > > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > >
    > > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the unsuspecting
    > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of you, all
    > of
    > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > >
    > > The following segment's web address is:
    > >
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church in
    > Quebec
    > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY FRIENDS.
    > Here
    > > it goes;
    > >
    > > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > Bytes: 1290
    > > Lines: 27
    > > References: <[email protected]>
    > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10 Mar
    > 2004
    > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > >
    > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those who are
    > > denied
    > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do hope that
    > > this
    > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration decisions
    > and
    > > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when are
    > persons
    > > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > >
    > > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS is
    > "our"
    > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment. Yes, to
    > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > >
    > > Cheers;
    > > --
    > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > email: [email protected]
    > >
    > >

Leslie Lakos

1. Just as Andrew Miller wrote. I graduated at Seneca in October of last
year. The program was called "Certified Immigration Practitioner Program".
Well Jim, I think - once you finish it - you are certified.

2. "Constituent number". CSIC sent me - and obviously to many others -
the following letter on the 26th of January 2004:
Thank for completing the Intent to Register process.

Here is your Unique File Number: 2378

The following items are attached to this email:
- Welcome Letter
- Test Passport
- Police Letter of Reference
- Instructions on how to book test
- List of test sites and contact info

Here, they call it Unique File Number.
Then, on the following day I receiced this:

Constituent ID# 2378 - 22nd February 2004, Seneca College Newham campus.

Thank you Mr. Lakos for advising me of the about information. Please find
attached the testing study materials to help you prepare for the
examination.

Thanking you.

Yours truly,
Imran Qayyum
Treasurer, Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC)

So Jim, as you can see I am not making it up. They call it this way.
Regards; --
Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
Tel: 416 876-6072
Fax: 416 489-5244
email: [email protected]
"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:KD46c.241479$Hy3.201411@edtnps89...
    > Jim, probably Leslie is a graduate of Seneca's Immigration Practitioner
    > Certificate Program. So, if he graduated and holds the certificate then he
    > may call himself Certified Immigration Practitioner.
    > As we all know it won't be enough to represent applicants for a fee before
    > CIC, IRB and IAD after IRPA regs are amended in April - membership in CSIC
    > or Provincial/Territorial law society will be required. And I remember
    > Leslie in previous posts indicated being a "CSIC Constituent" - little bit
    > premature as there are no members yet, only applicants for membership at
    > various stages of the process. So far CSIC didn't even provide us (those
who
    > already passed exams and submitted police certificates) with final
    > documentary requirements and instructions how to finalize the process,
they
    > promised to do it by the end of this week... we'll see.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I could not resist asking this question : Certified by whom?????
    > >
    > >
    > > Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL OF
    > > > YOU!!!!!!
    > > >
    > > > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person called
    > > Karen
    > > > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by then... For
    > > days
    > > > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the immigration
    > > > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her "ever-so-great"
    > > concern
    > > > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > > >
    > > > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the unsuspecting
    > > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of you,
all
    > > of
    > > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > > >
    > > > The following segment's web address is:
    > > >
    > >
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > > > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church in
    > > Quebec
    > > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY FRIENDS.
    > > Here
    > > > it goes;
    > > >
    > > > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > > Bytes: 1290
    > > > Lines: 27
    > > > References: <[email protected]>
    > > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10 Mar
    > > 2004
    > > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those who are
    > > > denied
    > > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do hope
that
    > > > this
    > > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration
decisions
    > > and
    > > > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when are
    > > persons
    > > > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > > >
    > > > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS is
    > > "our"
    > > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment. Yes,
to
    > > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > > >
    > > > Cheers;
    > > > --
    > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Ashok

.................................................. .................................................

I tried alternate routes, it seems the link is no more.
I stumbled across another post from KG

I sort of liked it and appreciate KG's thoughts
Here it goes:

.................................................. .................................................. ..

"Michael Hadac" ([email protected]) writes:
> 160 million
> Canada's military is investigating a "scheme that bilked the defence
> department of almost $160 million in bogus computer contracts."
>
> The RCMP is investigating a "sophisticated" scheme that bilked the defence
> department of almost $160 million in bogus computer contracts over 10 years,
> Public Works Minister Stephen Owen said yesterday.
>
> "Our suspicion to date, because of the internal audits and the forensic
> audits and now the RCMP investigations, (is) that this was a very
> sophisticated criminal scheme," Owen said after a cabinet meeting.
>
> Auditors discovered problems with a contract with Hewlett-Packard and that
> information was passed along to the Department of National Defence last
> April. The department hired PricewaterhouseCoopers to conduct a forensic
> audit.
>
> Critics yesterday demanded to know how $160 million could go out the "back
> door" without the government being aware of it.
>
> "When 10 soldiers were given $50 for daily food allowances, this government
> was quick to pounce on them and get every nickel back," Conservative MP
> Elsie Wayne (Saint John) said during Question Period.
>
> "At the same time, $160 million was walking right out the back door, in a
> phony invoice scheme."
>
> Add this to the $250 million scandal that are also missing from the Paul
> Martin's party and we have a 310 million missing.
>
> It's only money...!
> How many homeless people could be fed? How many schools and training
> programs gould've been funded?
>
> Put it to the test... Make a mistake on your tax return for about $5.00
> dollars. See if they forget about you as well and for how long?
>
> Who can we should vote for that we can trust?

(K): Perhaps Canadians are learning a very costly lesson here. We elect
those that TELL us what they are going to do for us in Ottawa. We cast
our votes for the 'lesser evil'. We're too lazy to pay close attention
to politics on a daily/weekly basis and vote for whomever our family
members tell us are 'okay' or who the neighbour thinks is the best party
to vote for. Maybe we get those we deserve in Ottawa.

Those that we "can trust" are not necessarily those with the best public
personna..... ie the best suit or haircut or whitest smile. Those that
we "can trust" are often those that make the most embarassing faux pas
in front of the cameras, but have their hearts in the right place, and
that place is with the average, working, overtaxed and overburdened
Canadian.

Let's start looking beyond the glamour and the glib words and start to
see who's behind the rhetoric. Let's not allow our candidates to just
tell us what they 'are going to do for us' in Ottawa..... let's be asking
HOW they plan to do it.

I think the Americans are locked into a no-win election treadmill which
is always going to elect the 'smoothest' candidate - thanks to their
Hollywood influence. Canadians can do far, far better...... we can look
beyond the gloss and glitter and elect those with integrity and
determination to make our country better. Let's try looking for those
qualities - no matter the party or the candidate.

When the candidate says: "We're going to make this a better country!",
ask them: "How do you plan to do that?" Then listen carefully.
--
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If you can remain calm, you just don't have all the facts
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""
.................................................. .................................................. .


Here it seems KG linked Andrew Miller with fraudulant immigration consultants and met a stiff resistance.

Surprisingly it seems Canada has not dearth of fraud immigration consultants and CSIC is direct outcome of that.

Vince

I guess Leslie and Andrew Miller are close friends

Leslie, you might be certified but in my opinion you have not acted
professionally in this newsgroup. In any profession, you are judged by
the degree of professionalism.

PS: I am neither an immigration consultant nor an Immigrant. I started
visiting this newsgroup for last couple of months as I have sponsored my
wife from US.


"Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > 1. Just as Andrew Miller wrote. I graduated at Seneca in October of
last
    > year. The program was called "Certified Immigration Practitioner Program".
    > Well Jim, I think - once you finish it - you are certified.
    > 2. "Constituent number". CSIC sent me - and obviously to many others -
    > the following letter on the 26th of January 2004:
    > Thank for completing the Intent to Register process.
    > Here is your Unique File Number: 2378
    > The following items are attached to this email:
    > - Welcome Letter
    > - Test Passport
    > - Police Letter of Reference
    > - Instructions on how to book test
    > - List of test sites and contact info
    > Here, they call it Unique File Number.
    > Then, on the following day I receiced this:
    > Constituent ID# 2378 - 22nd February 2004, Seneca College Newham campus.
    > Thank you Mr. Lakos for advising me of the about information. Please find
    > attached the testing study materials to help you prepare for the
    > examination.
    > Thanking you.
    > Yours truly,
    > Imran Qayyum
    > Treasurer, Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC)
    > So Jim, as you can see I am not making it up. They call it this way.
    > Regards; --
    > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > email: [email protected]
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:KD46c.241479$Hy3.201411@edtnps89...
    > > Jim, probably Leslie is a graduate of Seneca's Immigration Practitioner
    > > Certificate Program. So, if he graduated and holds the certificate then
he
    > > may call himself Certified Immigration Practitioner.
    > >
    > > As we all know it won't be enough to represent applicants for a fee
before
    > > CIC, IRB and IAD after IRPA regs are amended in April - membership in
CSIC
    > > or Provincial/Territorial law society will be required. And I remember
    > > Leslie in previous posts indicated being a "CSIC Constituent" - little
bit
    > > premature as there are no members yet, only applicants for membership at
    > > various stages of the process. So far CSIC didn't even provide us (those
    > who
    > > already passed exams and submitted police certificates) with final
    > > documentary requirements and instructions how to finalize the process,
    > they
    > > promised to do it by the end of this week... we'll see.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I could not resist asking this question : Certified by whom?????
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL
OF
    > > > > YOU!!!!!!
    > > > >
    > > > > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person
called
    > > > Karen
    > > > > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by then...
For
    > > > days
    > > > > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the immigration
    > > > > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her "ever-so-great"
    > > > concern
    > > > > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > > > >
    > > > > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the unsuspecting
    > > > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of you,
    > all
    > > > of
    > > > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > > > >
    > > > > The following segment's web address is:
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > > > > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church
in
    > > > Quebec
    > > > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY
FRIENDS.
    > > > Here
    > > > > it goes;
    > > > >
    > > > > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > > > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > > > Bytes: 1290
    > > > > Lines: 27
    > > > > References: <[email protected]>
    > > > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > > > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10
Mar
    > > > 2004
    > > > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > > > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > > > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > > > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those who
are
    > > > > denied
    > > > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do hope
    > that
    > > > > this
    > > > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration
    > decisions
    > > > and
    > > > > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when are
    > > > persons
    > > > > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > > > >
    > > > > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS
is
    > > > "our"
    > > > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment.
Yes,
    > to
    > > > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > > > >
    > > > > Cheers;
    > > > > --
    > > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Leslie Lakos

Dear Vince,

I must admit that You are right. I myself am embarrased over the tone I
used, however "subtle" I wanted to be. Without trying to embellish the facts
it just gets me when you see in a person nothing but sheer malice, brazen
lies and innuendos . You are right, it shouldn't. Without further ado, I
apologize.

Greetings;
Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
Tel: 416 876-6072
Fax: 416 489-5244
email: [email protected]
"vince" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I guess Leslie and Andrew Miller are close friends
    > Leslie, you might be certified but in my opinion you have not acted
    > professionally in this newsgroup. In any profession, you are judged by
    > the degree of professionalism.
    > PS: I am neither an immigration consultant nor an Immigrant. I started
    > visiting this newsgroup for last couple of months as I have sponsored my
    > wife from US.
    > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > 1. Just as Andrew Miller wrote. I graduated at Seneca in October of
    > last
    > > year. The program was called "Certified Immigration Practitioner
Program".
    > > Well Jim, I think - once you finish it - you are certified.
    > >
    > > 2. "Constituent number". CSIC sent me - and obviously to many
others -
    > > the following letter on the 26th of January 2004:
    > > Thank for completing the Intent to Register process.
    > >
    > > Here is your Unique File Number: 2378
    > >
    > > The following items are attached to this email:
    > > - Welcome Letter
    > > - Test Passport
    > > - Police Letter of Reference
    > > - Instructions on how to book test
    > > - List of test sites and contact info
    > >
    > > Here, they call it Unique File Number.
    > > Then, on the following day I receiced this:
    > >
    > > Constituent ID# 2378 - 22nd February 2004, Seneca College Newham campus.
    > >
    > > Thank you Mr. Lakos for advising me of the about information. Please
find
    > > attached the testing study materials to help you prepare for the
    > > examination.
    > >
    > > Thanking you.
    > >
    > > Yours truly,
    > > Imran Qayyum
    > > Treasurer, Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC)
    > >
    > > So Jim, as you can see I am not making it up. They call it this way.
    > > Regards; --
    > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:KD46c.241479$Hy3.201411@edtnps89...
    > > > Jim, probably Leslie is a graduate of Seneca's Immigration
Practitioner
    > > > Certificate Program. So, if he graduated and holds the certificate
then
    > he
    > > > may call himself Certified Immigration Practitioner.
    > > >
    > > > As we all know it won't be enough to represent applicants for a fee
    > before
    > > > CIC, IRB and IAD after IRPA regs are amended in April - membership in
    > CSIC
    > > > or Provincial/Territorial law society will be required. And I remember
    > > > Leslie in previous posts indicated being a "CSIC Constituent" - little
    > bit
    > > > premature as there are no members yet, only applicants for membership
at
    > > > various stages of the process. So far CSIC didn't even provide us
(those
    > > who
    > > > already passed exams and submitted police certificates) with final
    > > > documentary requirements and instructions how to finalize the process,
    > > they
    > > > promised to do it by the end of this week... we'll see.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > I could not resist asking this question : Certified by whom?????
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > >
news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL
    > OF
    > > > > > YOU!!!!!!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person
    > called
    > > > > Karen
    > > > > > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by then...
    > For
    > > > > days
    > > > > > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the
immigration
    > > > > > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her
"ever-so-great"
    > > > > concern
    > > > > > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the
unsuspecting
    > > > > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of
you,
    > > all
    > > > > of
    > > > > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > The following segment's web address is:
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > > > > > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church
    > in
    > > > > Quebec
    > > > > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY
    > FRIENDS.
    > > > > Here
    > > > > > it goes;
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > > > > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > > > > Bytes: 1290
    > > > > > Lines: 27
    > > > > > References: <[email protected]>
    > > > > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > > > > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10
    > Mar
    > > > > 2004
    > > > > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > > > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > > > > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > > > > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those who
    > are
    > > > > > denied
    > > > > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do
hope
    > > that
    > > > > > this
    > > > > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration
    > > decisions
    > > > > and
    > > > > > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when
are
    > > > > persons
    > > > > > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS
    > is
    > > > > "our"
    > > > > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment.
    > Yes,
    > > to
    > > > > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Cheers;
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

James Metcalfe

I was well aware of the use of Certified however I thought it best to
clarify the term for the other readers of this group lest thay thisnk that
this is higher level of IC . Like everyone else I too am waiting for the
final paper work from CSIC. Perhaps Leslie could impart some of her newly
learned knowledge in the NG for all of us, including those of us who have
been practising as uncertified ICs for years to learn from. Some times new
dogs can teach old dogs a trick or two. I am never too old to learn from
others. Et tu!

Jim metcalfe


"vince" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I guess Leslie and Andrew Miller are close friends
    > Leslie, you might be certified but in my opinion you have not acted
    > professionally in this newsgroup. In any profession, you are judged by
    > the degree of professionalism.
    > PS: I am neither an immigration consultant nor an Immigrant. I started
    > visiting this newsgroup for last couple of months as I have sponsored my
    > wife from US.
    > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > 1. Just as Andrew Miller wrote. I graduated at Seneca in October of
    > last
    > > year. The program was called "Certified Immigration Practitioner
Program".
    > > Well Jim, I think - once you finish it - you are certified.
    > >
    > > 2. "Constituent number". CSIC sent me - and obviously to many
others -
    > > the following letter on the 26th of January 2004:
    > > Thank for completing the Intent to Register process.
    > >
    > > Here is your Unique File Number: 2378
    > >
    > > The following items are attached to this email:
    > > - Welcome Letter
    > > - Test Passport
    > > - Police Letter of Reference
    > > - Instructions on how to book test
    > > - List of test sites and contact info
    > >
    > > Here, they call it Unique File Number.
    > > Then, on the following day I receiced this:
    > >
    > > Constituent ID# 2378 - 22nd February 2004, Seneca College Newham campus.
    > >
    > > Thank you Mr. Lakos for advising me of the about information. Please
find
    > > attached the testing study materials to help you prepare for the
    > > examination.
    > >
    > > Thanking you.
    > >
    > > Yours truly,
    > > Imran Qayyum
    > > Treasurer, Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC)
    > >
    > > So Jim, as you can see I am not making it up. They call it this way.
    > > Regards; --
    > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:KD46c.241479$Hy3.201411@edtnps89...
    > > > Jim, probably Leslie is a graduate of Seneca's Immigration
Practitioner
    > > > Certificate Program. So, if he graduated and holds the certificate
then
    > he
    > > > may call himself Certified Immigration Practitioner.
    > > >
    > > > As we all know it won't be enough to represent applicants for a fee
    > before
    > > > CIC, IRB and IAD after IRPA regs are amended in April - membership in
    > CSIC
    > > > or Provincial/Territorial law society will be required. And I remember
    > > > Leslie in previous posts indicated being a "CSIC Constituent" - little
    > bit
    > > > premature as there are no members yet, only applicants for membership
at
    > > > various stages of the process. So far CSIC didn't even provide us
(those
    > > who
    > > > already passed exams and submitted police certificates) with final
    > > > documentary requirements and instructions how to finalize the process,
    > > they
    > > > promised to do it by the end of this week... we'll see.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > I could not resist asking this question : Certified by whom?????
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > >
news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO ALL
    > OF
    > > > > > YOU!!!!!!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person
    > called
    > > > > Karen
    > > > > > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by then...
    > For
    > > > > days
    > > > > > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the
immigration
    > > > > > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her
"ever-so-great"
    > > > > concern
    > > > > > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the
unsuspecting
    > > > > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of
you,
    > > all
    > > > > of
    > > > > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > > > > >
    > > > > > The following segment's web address is:
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > > > > > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the Church
    > in
    > > > > Quebec
    > > > > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY
    > FRIENDS.
    > > > > Here
    > > > > > it goes;
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > > > > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > > > > Bytes: 1290
    > > > > > Lines: 27
    > > > > > References: <[email protected]>
    > > > > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > > > > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed, 10
    > Mar
    > > > > 2004
    > > > > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > > > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > > > > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > > > > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those who
    > are
    > > > > > denied
    > > > > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do
hope
    > > that
    > > > > > this
    > > > > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration
    > > decisions
    > > > > and
    > > > > > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when
are
    > > > > persons
    > > > > > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that THIS
    > is
    > > > > "our"
    > > > > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment.
    > Yes,
    > > to
    > > > > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Cheers;
    > > > > > --
    > > > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Leslie Lakos

Thank you Jim, happily.
As we all know from the CSIC letter, it is a 2 hours long exam, consisting
of 60 questions. Some 60 % of it dealing with ethics and the rest is
knowledge. The knowledge test is dealing with easy and obvious answers. (to
you guys.) Some of them are timeline-related. Some others are testing our
knowledge on definition. The right answers will be indicated on a special
card (A, B, C or D) and the score will be evaluated by a machine. Suffice it
to say that I left the room after spending 1 hour 15 minutes. I'm no genius,
but due to my recent studies, most of the info we learnt is still in my
mind. (Graduated in last October.)

I think the real hurdle comes some 2 years down the road, when we all have
to specialize. That, for sure will not be an entry-level test.

In conclusion; I'll keep my fingers crossed but having experienced the exam,
and being aware of all of your level of knowledge I know it will be
unnecessary.

Ps:I'd just like to apologize again for my outburst and tone I used earlier
on her. Vince is right, it is NOT professional. I stand corrected
eslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
Tel: 416 876-6072
Fax: 416 489-5244
email: [email protected]
"James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > I was well aware of the use of Certified however I thought it best to
    > clarify the term for the other readers of this group lest thay thisnk that
    > this is higher level of IC . Like everyone else I too am waiting for the
    > final paper work from CSIC. Perhaps Leslie could impart some of her newly
    > learned knowledge in the NG for all of us, including those of us who have
    > been practising as uncertified ICs for years to learn from. Some times
new
    > dogs can teach old dogs a trick or two. I am never too old to learn from
    > others. Et tu!
    > Jim metcalfe
    > "vince" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I guess Leslie and Andrew Miller are close friends
    > >
    > > Leslie, you might be certified but in my opinion you have not acted
    > > professionally in this newsgroup. In any profession, you are judged by
    > > the degree of professionalism.
    > >
    > > PS: I am neither an immigration consultant nor an Immigrant. I started
    > > visiting this newsgroup for last couple of months as I have sponsored my
    > > wife from US.
    > >
    > >
    > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > 1. Just as Andrew Miller wrote. I graduated at Seneca in October of
    > > last
    > > > year. The program was called "Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > Program".
    > > > Well Jim, I think - once you finish it - you are certified.
    > > >
    > > > 2. "Constituent number". CSIC sent me - and obviously to many
    > others -
    > > > the following letter on the 26th of January 2004:
    > > > Thank for completing the Intent to Register process.
    > > >
    > > > Here is your Unique File Number: 2378
    > > >
    > > > The following items are attached to this email:
    > > > - Welcome Letter
    > > > - Test Passport
    > > > - Police Letter of Reference
    > > > - Instructions on how to book test
    > > > - List of test sites and contact info
    > > >
    > > > Here, they call it Unique File Number.
    > > > Then, on the following day I receiced this:
    > > >
    > > > Constituent ID# 2378 - 22nd February 2004, Seneca College Newham
campus.
    > > >
    > > > Thank you Mr. Lakos for advising me of the about information. Please
    > find
    > > > attached the testing study materials to help you prepare for the
    > > > examination.
    > > >
    > > > Thanking you.
    > > >
    > > > Yours truly,
    > > > Imran Qayyum
    > > > Treasurer, Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC)
    > > >
    > > > So Jim, as you can see I am not making it up. They call it this way.
    > > > Regards; --
    > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:KD46c.241479$Hy3.201411@edtnps89...
    > > > > Jim, probably Leslie is a graduate of Seneca's Immigration
    > Practitioner
    > > > > Certificate Program. So, if he graduated and holds the certificate
    > then
    > > he
    > > > > may call himself Certified Immigration Practitioner.
    > > > >
    > > > > As we all know it won't be enough to represent applicants for a fee
    > > before
    > > > > CIC, IRB and IAD after IRPA regs are amended in April - membership
in
    > > CSIC
    > > > > or Provincial/Territorial law society will be required. And I
remember
    > > > > Leslie in previous posts indicated being a "CSIC Constituent" -
little
    > > bit
    > > > > premature as there are no members yet, only applicants for
membership
    > at
    > > > > various stages of the process. So far CSIC didn't even provide us
    > (those
    > > > who
    > > > > already passed exams and submitted police certificates) with final
    > > > > documentary requirements and instructions how to finalize the
process,
    > > > they
    > > > > promised to do it by the end of this week... we'll see.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > I could not resist asking this question : Certified by whom?????
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > >
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO
ALL
    > > OF
    > > > > > > YOU!!!!!!
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er... person
    > > called
    > > > > > Karen
    > > > > > > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by
then...
    > > For
    > > > > > days
    > > > > > > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the
    > immigration
    > > > > > > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her
    > "ever-so-great"
    > > > > > concern
    > > > > > > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the
    > unsuspecting
    > > > > > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all of
    > you,
    > > > all
    > > > > > of
    > > > > > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > The following segment's web address is:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > > > > > > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the
Church
    > > in
    > > > > > Quebec
    > > > > > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY
    > > FRIENDS.
    > > > > > Here
    > > > > > > it goes;
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > > > > > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > > > > > Bytes: 1290
    > > > > > > Lines: 27
    > > > > > > References: <[email protected]>
    > > > > > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > > > > > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192 (Wed,
10
    > > Mar
    > > > > > 2004
    > > > > > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > > > > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > > > > > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > > > > > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those
who
    > > are
    > > > > > > denied
    > > > > > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do
    > hope
    > > > that
    > > > > > > this
    > > > > > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration
    > > > decisions
    > > > > > and
    > > > > > > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since when
    > are
    > > > > > persons
    > > > > > > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that
THIS
    > > is
    > > > > > "our"
    > > > > > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her comment.
    > > Yes,
    > > > to
    > > > > > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Cheers;
    > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

James Metcalfe

The test was interesting particualrly the Code of Conduct question.

Try to get involved in the NG, you can learn a lot and pick up useful bits
of info. Don't take matters personally as it can be rough crowd. If you have
any situations in your practise that you cannot solve , ask directly. We all
do.


Jim metcalfe , uncertified IC


"Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you Jim, happily.
    > As we all know from the CSIC letter, it is a 2 hours long exam, consisting
    > of 60 questions. Some 60 % of it dealing with ethics and the rest is
    > knowledge. The knowledge test is dealing with easy and obvious answers.
(to
    > you guys.) Some of them are timeline-related. Some others are testing our
    > knowledge on definition. The right answers will be indicated on a special
    > card (A, B, C or D) and the score will be evaluated by a machine. Suffice
it
    > to say that I left the room after spending 1 hour 15 minutes. I'm no
genius,
    > but due to my recent studies, most of the info we learnt is still in my
    > mind. (Graduated in last October.)
    > I think the real hurdle comes some 2 years down the road, when we all have
    > to specialize. That, for sure will not be an entry-level test.
    > In conclusion; I'll keep my fingers crossed but having experienced the
exam,
    > and being aware of all of your level of knowledge I know it will be
    > unnecessary.
    > Ps:I'd just like to apologize again for my outburst and tone I used
earlier
    > on her. Vince is right, it is NOT professional. I stand corrected
    > eslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > email: [email protected]
    > "James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > I was well aware of the use of Certified however I thought it best to
    > > clarify the term for the other readers of this group lest thay thisnk
that
    > > this is higher level of IC . Like everyone else I too am waiting for the
    > > final paper work from CSIC. Perhaps Leslie could impart some of her
newly
    > > learned knowledge in the NG for all of us, including those of us who
have
    > > been practising as uncertified ICs for years to learn from. Some times
    > new
    > > dogs can teach old dogs a trick or two. I am never too old to learn from
    > > others. Et tu!
    > >
    > > Jim metcalfe
    > >
    > >
    > > "vince" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > I guess Leslie and Andrew Miller are close friends
    > > >
    > > > Leslie, you might be certified but in my opinion you have not acted
    > > > professionally in this newsgroup. In any profession, you are judged by
    > > > the degree of professionalism.
    > > >
    > > > PS: I am neither an immigration consultant nor an Immigrant. I started
    > > > visiting this newsgroup for last couple of months as I have sponsored
my
    > > > wife from US.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > 1. Just as Andrew Miller wrote. I graduated at Seneca in October
of
    > > > last
    > > > > year. The program was called "Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > Program".
    > > > > Well Jim, I think - once you finish it - you are certified.
    > > > >
    > > > > 2. "Constituent number". CSIC sent me - and obviously to many
    > > others -
    > > > > the following letter on the 26th of January 2004:
    > > > > Thank for completing the Intent to Register process.
    > > > >
    > > > > Here is your Unique File Number: 2378
    > > > >
    > > > > The following items are attached to this email:
    > > > > - Welcome Letter
    > > > > - Test Passport
    > > > > - Police Letter of Reference
    > > > > - Instructions on how to book test
    > > > > - List of test sites and contact info
    > > > >
    > > > > Here, they call it Unique File Number.
    > > > > Then, on the following day I receiced this:
    > > > >
    > > > > Constituent ID# 2378 - 22nd February 2004, Seneca College Newham
    > campus.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thank you Mr. Lakos for advising me of the about information. Please
    > > find
    > > > > attached the testing study materials to help you prepare for the
    > > > > examination.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanking you.
    > > > >
    > > > > Yours truly,
    > > > > Imran Qayyum
    > > > > Treasurer, Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants (CSIC)
    > > > >
    > > > > So Jim, as you can see I am not making it up. They call it this way.
    > > > > Regards; --
    > > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
    > > > > news:KD46c.241479$Hy3.201411@edtnps89...
    > > > > > Jim, probably Leslie is a graduate of Seneca's Immigration
    > > Practitioner
    > > > > > Certificate Program. So, if he graduated and holds the certificate
    > > then
    > > > he
    > > > > > may call himself Certified Immigration Practitioner.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > As we all know it won't be enough to represent applicants for a
fee
    > > > before
    > > > > > CIC, IRB and IAD after IRPA regs are amended in April - membership
    > in
    > > > CSIC
    > > > > > or Provincial/Territorial law society will be required. And I
    > remember
    > > > > > Leslie in previous posts indicated being a "CSIC Constituent" -
    > little
    > > > bit
    > > > > > premature as there are no members yet, only applicants for
    > membership
    > > at
    > > > > > various stages of the process. So far CSIC didn't even provide us
    > > (those
    > > > > who
    > > > > > already passed exams and submitted police certificates) with final
    > > > > > documentary requirements and instructions how to finalize the
    > process,
    > > > > they
    > > > > > promised to do it by the end of this week... we'll see.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > --
    > > > > >
    > > > > > ../..
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > > ________________________________
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > "James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > I could not resist asking this question : Certified by
whom?????
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Jim Metcalfe, uncertified Immigration Consultant
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > "Leslie Lakos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > > >
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > Guys and Girl, look what I found. HAVE I GOT A BIG SURPRISE TO
    > ALL
    > > > OF
    > > > > > > > YOU!!!!!!
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Just like you all, I too want to forget about this er...
person
    > > > called
    > > > > > > Karen
    > > > > > > > Gordon . However, chances are that she'll be back. But, by
    > then...
    > > > For
    > > > > > > days
    > > > > > > > she has been bashing all of us as to how crooked we the
    > > immigration
    > > > > > > > consultants all are. For days she's been showing her
    > > "ever-so-great"
    > > > > > > concern
    > > > > > > > over "poor immigrants" who'll fall prey to A. Miller and al.
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Let me show you just how sympathetic she is toward the
    > > unsuspecting
    > > > > > > > immigrants whom she is so vehemently trying to save from all
of
    > > you,
    > > > > all
    > > > > > > of
    > > > > > > > us. Let me SHOW you, what a hypocrite snake this person is!!!
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > The following segment's web address is:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > >
http://news.myexcel.com/group/mtl.ge...article@100420
    > > > > > > > This is her comment apperently on the Police, attacking the
    > Church
    > > > in
    > > > > > > Quebec
    > > > > > > > City to capture the Algerians. YOU WON'T BELEIVE YOUR EYES MY
    > > > FRIENDS.
    > > > > > > Here
    > > > > > > > it goes;
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Re: Should churches be shielding 'refugees'?
    > > > > > > > Author: E. Barry Bruyea
    > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:54:14
    > > > > > > > Bytes: 1290
    > > > > > > > Lines: 27
    > > > > > > > References: <[email protected]>
    > > > > > > > <[email protected] .rogers.com>
    > > > > > > > X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1078952050 216.209.123.192
(Wed,
    > 10
    > > > Mar
    > > > > > > 2004
    > > > > > > > 15:54:10 EST)
    > > > > > > > XRef: news.sisna.com can.politics:726320 bc.politics:239049
    > > > > > > > ont.politics:101455 mtl.general:100420
    > > > > > > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:51:44 GMT, "jmd" wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > >"Karen Gordon" wrote in message
    > > > > > > > >news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > > > >> (K): Just another example of the many, many ways that those
    > who
    > > > are
    > > > > > > > denied
    > > > > > > > >> residency in Canada try to escape deportation. I really do
    > > hope
    > > > > that
    > > > > > > > this
    > > > > > > > >> is the beginning of the end of churches making immigration
    > > > > decisions
    > > > > > > and
    > > > > > > > >> judgments as to a person's legitimacy in Canada. Since
when
    > > are
    > > > > > > persons
    > > > > > > > >> coming in from 'safe' U.S. of A. legitimate refugees?
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Should the unlikely scenario occur that you are doubting that
    > THIS
    > > > is
    > > > > > > "our"
    > > > > > > > Karen, please take a quick look at the beginning of her
comment.
    > > > Yes,
    > > > > to
    > > > > > > > THAT "(K)" ... a.k.a. Evidence "A"
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > > Cheers;
    > > > > > > > --
    > > > > > > > Leslie Lakos - Certified Immigration Practitioner
    > > > > > > > Tel: 416 876-6072
    > > > > > > > Fax: 416 489-5244
    > > > > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Robert

    > Jim metcalfe , uncertified IC
<BIG G>
P.M.P.L.