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Old Jan 15th 2004, 7:50 am
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Steve Lai
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I was wondering what kind of proof I need to provide that I am a relative
of a Canadian citizen. Would providing the name and address of that relative
be sufficient?

Thanks
 
Old Jan 15th 2004, 1:12 pm
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Birth certificate.


"Steve Lai" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > I was wondering what kind of proof I need to provide that I am a relative
    > of a Canadian citizen. Would providing the name and address of that
relative
    > be sufficient?
    > Thanks
 
Old Jan 15th 2004, 1:31 pm
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Web_guru2003
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If your relative in Canada is married then i guess marriage
certificate will do the work for you as it has father name that
matches your father name.

In my case I have a married sister there in USA and I have mailed the
copies of:

- Her marriage certificate (our father name and our home town address
on it)
- Her secondary school certificate (that has our father name)
- Her Canadian passport (to show that she is a citizen)
- And her latest bank statement (that has CC transactions of Toronto
to show her presence in Canada)

"Steve Lai" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > I was wondering what kind of proof I need to provide that I am a relative
    > of a Canadian citizen. Would providing the name and address of that relative
    > be sufficient?
    >
    > Thanks
 
Old Jan 17th 2004, 3:34 am
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Henok
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You relative can send you a signed affidavit(and notarized) stating
the relationship to you and identifying you. The affidavit should
include his/her address. He/she can included a copy(doesn't hurt to
get that notarized as well) of their passport. Then send all that in
when you apply.
I just did this! If you find outout that this doesn't work, please let
me know by email.


[email protected] (Web_Guru2003) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > If your relative in Canada is married then i guess marriage
    > certificate will do the work for you as it has father name that
    > matches your father name.
    >
    > In my case I have a married sister there in USA and I have mailed the
    > copies of:
    >
    > - Her marriage certificate (our father name and our home town address
    > on it)
    > - Her secondary school certificate (that has our father name)
    > - Her Canadian passport (to show that she is a citizen)
    > - And her latest bank statement (that has CC transactions of Toronto
    > to show her presence in Canada)
    >
    > "Steve Lai" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > I was wondering what kind of proof I need to provide that I am a relative
    > > of a Canadian citizen. Would providing the name and address of that relative
    > > be sufficient?
    > >
    > > Thanks
 
Old Jan 17th 2004, 3:46 am
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Andrew Miller
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"Signed affidavit" from claimed relative is worthless when it comes to
documenting having a relative in Canada in order to get extra points in
Adaptability factor.

Applicants must provide conclusive evidence proving the following:

1. Relation to claimed relative (parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle, sister,
brother, niece, nephew, child or grandchild) through the set of birth
certificates proving claimed relation; and

2. Fact that claimed relative is Canadian PR or citizen and lives
permanently in Canada (copy of passport or landing papers is not enough)

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Henok" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > You relative can send you a signed affidavit(and notarized) stating
    > the relationship to you and identifying you. The affidavit should
    > include his/her address. He/she can included a copy(doesn't hurt to
    > get that notarized as well) of their passport. Then send all that in
    > when you apply.
    > I just did this! If you find outout that this doesn't work, please let
    > me know by email.
    > [email protected] (Web_Guru2003) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]. com>...
    > > If your relative in Canada is married then i guess marriage
    > > certificate will do the work for you as it has father name that
    > > matches your father name.
    > >
    > > In my case I have a married sister there in USA and I have mailed the
    > > copies of:
    > >
    > > - Her marriage certificate (our father name and our home town address
    > > on it)
    > > - Her secondary school certificate (that has our father name)
    > > - Her Canadian passport (to show that she is a citizen)
    > > - And her latest bank statement (that has CC transactions of Toronto
    > > to show her presence in Canada)
    > >
    > > "Steve Lai" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>. ..
    > > > I was wondering what kind of proof I need to provide that I am a
relative
    > > > of a Canadian citizen. Would providing the name and address of that
relative
    > > > be sufficient?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
 
Old Jan 21st 2004, 4:12 am
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Bcre8tv
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Hi,

Would copies of the original birth certificates, issued by the country
of birth be ok? Do they have to be translated to english, notarized,
or anything like that? Or just plain photocopies would do it?
And, would a recent Bell telephone bill be an acceptable proof that
the claimed relative lives in Canada?

Thank you.


"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<w63Ob.22983$wf1.246@edtnps89>...
    > "Signed affidavit" from claimed relative is worthless when it comes to
    > documenting having a relative in Canada in order to get extra points in
    > Adaptability factor.
    >
    > Applicants must provide conclusive evidence proving the following:
    >
    > 1. Relation to claimed relative (parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle, sister,
    > brother, niece, nephew, child or grandchild) through the set of birth
    > certificates proving claimed relation; and
    >
    > 2. Fact that claimed relative is Canadian PR or citizen and lives
    > permanently in Canada (copy of passport or landing papers is not enough)
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
 
Old Jan 21st 2004, 4:22 am
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Andrew Miller
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Nope - copy must be certified as true copy and have certified translation
attached.

A single phone bill may not be conclusive enough. What about other utility
bills, rental agreement, tax assessment, payroll stubs or other proof of
employment, etc.?

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"BCRE8TV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    > Would copies of the original birth certificates, issued by the country
    > of birth be ok? Do they have to be translated to english, notarized,
    > or anything like that? Or just plain photocopies would do it?
    > And, would a recent Bell telephone bill be an acceptable proof that
    > the claimed relative lives in Canada?
    > Thank you.
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<w63Ob.22983$wf1.246@edtnps89>...
    > > "Signed affidavit" from claimed relative is worthless when it comes to
    > > documenting having a relative in Canada in order to get extra points in
    > > Adaptability factor.
    > >
    > > Applicants must provide conclusive evidence proving the following:
    > >
    > > 1. Relation to claimed relative (parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle,
sister,
    > > brother, niece, nephew, child or grandchild) through the set of birth
    > > certificates proving claimed relation; and
    > >
    > > 2. Fact that claimed relative is Canadian PR or citizen and lives
    > > permanently in Canada (copy of passport or landing papers is not enough)
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
 
Old Jan 21st 2004, 1:46 pm
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Bcre8tv
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Hi again.

It's odd though. About having the birth certificate translated, the "Visa
Office Specific Instructions" (PDF file found here:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/E37106.pdf) clearly states:

<snip>
Send certified photocopies of all documents, except the police certificates,
which must be
originals. If your documents are not in French or English, notarized
translations should be submitted in
addition to the certified copies.
Exception: Birth, marriage, and other civil status documents, as well as
educational certificates, do not
require translations if they are written in Romanian using the Roman
alphabet.
<snip>

Regarding the utility bills/tax assessment/proof of employment - there is no
reference (in the same PDF) being made to any other documents besides the
record of landing or a proof of canadian citizenship - e.g. citizenship
card, canadian passport - in the paragraph where the proof of relationship
is described:

<snip>
5. PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP IN CANADA (IF APPLICABLE)
Proof of relationship to any close relative in Canada, such as birth,
marriage or
adoption certificates and proof of that person's status in Canada; photocopy
of the
Record of Landing (IMM 1000) of your parent or proof of Canadian citizenship
such as photocopy of pages of a Canadian passport or Canadian citizenship
card.
<snip>

On the other hand, the Embassy's say in this matter, of verifying the
relationship, is:

<snip>
You indicate in your message that you have a sibling who is a permanent
resident or/or a citizen of Canada. The proof of relationship must be
provided by means of:
- notarized copies of the Romanian birth certificates for you and for your
sibling and/and
- notarized translations of these two certificates.
<snip>

Confusing, to say the least...

By the way - by tax assessment, what exactly do you mean? (property tax
assessment?). Also, would a letter of employment combined with a utility
bill suffice for the purpose of proving the _in Canada_ aspect of the
relationship?


Thanks once again.


"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:50oPb.2674$2j7.2060@clgrps13...
    > Nope - copy must be certified as true copy and have certified translation
    > attached.
    > A single phone bill may not be conclusive enough. What about other utility
    > bills, rental agreement, tax assessment, payroll stubs or other proof of
    > employment, etc.?
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "BCRE8TV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > Would copies of the original birth certificates, issued by the country
    > > of birth be ok? Do they have to be translated to english, notarized,
    > > or anything like that? Or just plain photocopies would do it?
    > > And, would a recent Bell telephone bill be an acceptable proof that
    > > the claimed relative lives in Canada?
    > >
    > > Thank you.
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:<w63Ob.22983$wf1.246@edtnps89>...
    > > > "Signed affidavit" from claimed relative is worthless when it comes to
    > > > documenting having a relative in Canada in order to get extra points
in
    > > > Adaptability factor.
    > > >
    > > > Applicants must provide conclusive evidence proving the following:
    > > >
    > > > 1. Relation to claimed relative (parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle,
    > sister,
    > > > brother, niece, nephew, child or grandchild) through the set of birth
    > > > certificates proving claimed relation; and
    > > >
    > > > 2. Fact that claimed relative is Canadian PR or citizen and lives
    > > > permanently in Canada (copy of passport or landing papers is not
enough)
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
 
Old Jan 21st 2004, 3:25 pm
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Andrew Miller
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You didn't say in your post that you are a Romanian applying through
Bucharest - thus you got generic answer that applies to everybody. Some visa
post allow submission of documents in language of the country they are
located in, but not all and not always. It is safer to submit certified
copies with their certified translations to avoid any delays.

If your relative lives and works in Canada then s/he knows what tax
assessment is - it is assessment mailed by Revenue Canada after annual tax
return has been received from individual and assessed.

If your relative is in Canada for less than a year and didn't file tax
return yet then you may use your relative's utility bill with solid proof of
employment (for example payroll stubs). Remember that you must provide
conclusive proof and there are too many applicants trying to cheat through
the process, so processing officer may not accept simple letter from
employer (especially if it is a small, unknown company) as everyone can make
such today on home computer.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________



"BCRE8TV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi again.
    > It's odd though. About having the birth certificate translated, the "Visa
    > Office Specific Instructions" (PDF file found here:
    > http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/E37106.pdf) clearly states:
    > <snip>
    > Send certified photocopies of all documents, except the police
certificates,
    > which must be
    > originals. If your documents are not in French or English, notarized
    > translations should be submitted in
    > addition to the certified copies.
    > Exception: Birth, marriage, and other civil status documents, as well as
    > educational certificates, do not
    > require translations if they are written in Romanian using the Roman
    > alphabet.
    > <snip>
    > Regarding the utility bills/tax assessment/proof of employment - there is
no
    > reference (in the same PDF) being made to any other documents besides the
    > record of landing or a proof of canadian citizenship - e.g. citizenship
    > card, canadian passport - in the paragraph where the proof of relationship
    > is described:
    > <snip>
    > 5. PROOF OF RELATIONSHIP IN CANADA (IF APPLICABLE)
    > Proof of relationship to any close relative in Canada, such as birth,
    > marriage or
    > adoption certificates and proof of that person's status in Canada;
photocopy
    > of the
    > Record of Landing (IMM 1000) of your parent or proof of Canadian
citizenship
    > such as photocopy of pages of a Canadian passport or Canadian citizenship
    > card.
    > <snip>
    > On the other hand, the Embassy's say in this matter, of verifying the
    > relationship, is:
    > <snip>
    > You indicate in your message that you have a sibling who is a permanent
    > resident or/or a citizen of Canada. The proof of relationship must be
    > provided by means of:
    > - notarized copies of the Romanian birth certificates for you and for your
    > sibling and/and
    > - notarized translations of these two certificates.
    > <snip>
    > Confusing, to say the least...
    > By the way - by tax assessment, what exactly do you mean? (property tax
    > assessment?). Also, would a letter of employment combined with a utility
    > bill suffice for the purpose of proving the _in Canada_ aspect of the
    > relationship?
    > Thanks once again.
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:50oPb.2674$2j7.2060@clgrps13...
    > > Nope - copy must be certified as true copy and have certified
translation
    > > attached.
    > >
    > > A single phone bill may not be conclusive enough. What about other
utility
    > > bills, rental agreement, tax assessment, payroll stubs or other proof of
    > > employment, etc.?
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "BCRE8TV" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > Would copies of the original birth certificates, issued by the country
    > > > of birth be ok? Do they have to be translated to english, notarized,
    > > > or anything like that? Or just plain photocopies would do it?
    > > > And, would a recent Bell telephone bill be an acceptable proof that
    > > > the claimed relative lives in Canada?
    > > >
    > > > Thank you.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:<w63Ob.22983$wf1.246@edtnps89>...
    > > > > "Signed affidavit" from claimed relative is worthless when it comes
to
    > > > > documenting having a relative in Canada in order to get extra points
    > in
    > > > > Adaptability factor.
    > > > >
    > > > > Applicants must provide conclusive evidence proving the following:
    > > > >
    > > > > 1. Relation to claimed relative (parent, grandparent, aunt, uncle,
    > > sister,
    > > > > brother, niece, nephew, child or grandchild) through the set of
birth
    > > > > certificates proving claimed relation; and
    > > > >
    > > > > 2. Fact that claimed relative is Canadian PR or citizen and lives
    > > > > permanently in Canada (copy of passport or landing papers is not
    > enough)
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
 

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