PR card - compulsory?
Oct 5th 2002, 9:55 pm
#1
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PR card - compulsory?
I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would be
$150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
usage.
As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may come
up?
Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
still acceptable?
Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
Thanks to expert help on this
I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would be
$150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
usage.
As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may come
up?
Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
still acceptable?
Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
Thanks to expert help on this
Oct 5th 2002, 10:21 pm
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Re: PR card - compulsory?
PR Card will be necessary to travel back to Canada using commercial
transportation after the end of 2003. It will not be mandatory to have PR Card
when re-entering Canada though, as long as you have other evidence of **valid
PR status** - IMM 1000 is not a proof of valid PR status. Examining officer at
the port of entry will have the obligation to determine if you still have
**valid** PR status if you can't demonstrate valid PR Card, so brace yourself
for some problems...
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Kay" wrote in message
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> I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
> and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would be
> $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
> usage.
> As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may come
> up?
> Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
> still acceptable?
> Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> Thanks to expert help on this
transportation after the end of 2003. It will not be mandatory to have PR Card
when re-entering Canada though, as long as you have other evidence of **valid
PR status** - IMM 1000 is not a proof of valid PR status. Examining officer at
the port of entry will have the obligation to determine if you still have
**valid** PR status if you can't demonstrate valid PR Card, so brace yourself
for some problems...
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Kay" wrote in message
news:idJn9.-
[email protected] .com...
> I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
> and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would be
> $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
> usage.
> As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may come
> up?
> Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
> still acceptable?
> Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> Thanks to expert help on this
Oct 5th 2002, 11:28 pm
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Re: PR card - compulsory?
Thanks for the reply
As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation planned
in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will be
the route I take instead of the PR card.
Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my children
to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
apply later on.
It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they will
be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be bothered"
getting their Citizenship.
This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their plan
as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one to
five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
$50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
"Kay" wrote in message
news:idJn9.-
[email protected] .com...
> I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
> and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would
be
> $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
> usage.
> As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may
come
> up?
> Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
> still acceptable?
> Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> Thanks to expert help on this
As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation planned
in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will be
the route I take instead of the PR card.
Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my children
to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
apply later on.
It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they will
be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be bothered"
getting their Citizenship.
This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their plan
as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one to
five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
$50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
"Kay" wrote in message
news:idJn9.-
[email protected] .com...
> I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
> and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would
be
> $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
> usage.
> As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may
come
> up?
> Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
> still acceptable?
> Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> Thanks to expert help on this
Oct 6th 2002, 2:51 am
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Re: PR card - compulsory?
Hi Kay
I recall you posting here in mid 2001, good to see you're still
getting on well in Canada.
I thought I recalled from your old website that you arrived in Canada
in April 2000 or so, in which case you should be eligible to apply for
citizenship earlier than November 2003, unless you arrived on some
kind of temporary visa.
If your citizenship eligibility isn't until later in 2003, I would
advise getting the PR card anyway. It will certainly make things
easier coming back from a day trip in the US or something like that.
The Australian government recently increased the price of resident
return visas to the same as a citizenship application (A$120). There
are still plenty of British people who refuse to take citizenship,
either because they just can't be bothered or they don't want to. It
causes plenty of horror stories later on, when they need to stay
outside the country for a while and lose their PR as a result.
I'm not sure if the Canadian government will make much money out of
the PR card. C$10 per permanent resident per year would be a lot of
money for an individual to get, but in the context of the government
finances it's pretty small. Plus, there are all the costs of setting
up and running the system.
Although it won't happen overnight, I can see the PR card becoming the
de-facto way for people to prove their status within Canada, such as
when applying for a job, credit, renting an apartment etc. The need
to renew the PR card will also make enforcement of the residency
obligation a lot easier.
Although Canada (since June 28) gives more flexibility to PRs wanting
to spend a few years outside the country (normally in the US) you can
be sure it won't be enough for some.
Jeremy
>On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 23:28:45 GMT, "Kay" wrote:
>Thanks for the reply
>As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation planned
>in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will be
>the route I take instead of the PR card.
>Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my children
>to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
>apply later on.
>It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they will
>be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
>I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
>every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be bothered"
>getting their Citizenship.
>This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their plan
>as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one to
>five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
>$50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
>"Kay" wrote in message
>news:idJn9-
>[email protected] rs.com ...
>> I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
>> I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
>> and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would
>be
>> $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
>> usage.
>> As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may
>come
>> up?
>> Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
>> still acceptable?
>> Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
>> Thanks to expert help on this
I recall you posting here in mid 2001, good to see you're still
getting on well in Canada.
I thought I recalled from your old website that you arrived in Canada
in April 2000 or so, in which case you should be eligible to apply for
citizenship earlier than November 2003, unless you arrived on some
kind of temporary visa.
If your citizenship eligibility isn't until later in 2003, I would
advise getting the PR card anyway. It will certainly make things
easier coming back from a day trip in the US or something like that.
The Australian government recently increased the price of resident
return visas to the same as a citizenship application (A$120). There
are still plenty of British people who refuse to take citizenship,
either because they just can't be bothered or they don't want to. It
causes plenty of horror stories later on, when they need to stay
outside the country for a while and lose their PR as a result.
I'm not sure if the Canadian government will make much money out of
the PR card. C$10 per permanent resident per year would be a lot of
money for an individual to get, but in the context of the government
finances it's pretty small. Plus, there are all the costs of setting
up and running the system.
Although it won't happen overnight, I can see the PR card becoming the
de-facto way for people to prove their status within Canada, such as
when applying for a job, credit, renting an apartment etc. The need
to renew the PR card will also make enforcement of the residency
obligation a lot easier.
Although Canada (since June 28) gives more flexibility to PRs wanting
to spend a few years outside the country (normally in the US) you can
be sure it won't be enough for some.
Jeremy
>On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 23:28:45 GMT, "Kay" wrote:
>Thanks for the reply
>As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation planned
>in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will be
>the route I take instead of the PR card.
>Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my children
>to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
>apply later on.
>It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they will
>be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
>I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
>every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be bothered"
>getting their Citizenship.
>This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their plan
>as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one to
>five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
>$50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
>"Kay" wrote in message
>news:idJn9-
>[email protected] rs.com ...
>> I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
>> I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December 2003
>> and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it would
>be
>> $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
>> usage.
>> As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may
>come
>> up?
>> Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper IM1000
>> still acceptable?
>> Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
>> Thanks to expert help on this
Oct 6th 2002, 5:09 am
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Re: PR card - compulsory?
Hi Kay, even you already got valuable advises from Andrew and JAJ, here it
goes mine (an ordinary Canadian citizen that really hates wasting money on
unusable things!): if you REALLY do NOT plan traveling outside Canada, and
that's until you are eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship (3 years,
not one day less, since you have become PR), you do NOT need to get that new
PR card and spend all that money on it! Use it to buy something nice for
your kids or for yourself. Do NOT donate it to the government, unless you
are in love with Jean Chretien and his party!
Best of luck and welcome into the Canadian family!
Chris
"Kay" wrote in message
news:NAKn9.-
[email protected] .com...
> Thanks for the reply
> As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation
planned
> in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will be
> the route I take instead of the PR card.
> Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my
children
> to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
> apply later on.
> It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they
will
> be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
> I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
> every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be bothered"
> getting their Citizenship.
> This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their
plan
> as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one to
> five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
> $50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
> "Kay" wrote in message
> news:idJn-
> [email protected] rs.com ...
> > I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> >
> > I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December
2003
> > and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it
would
> be
> > $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
> > usage.
> >
> > As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may
> come
> > up?
> >
> > Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper
IM1000
> > still acceptable?
> >
> > Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> >
> > Thanks to expert help on this
> >
> >
> >
goes mine (an ordinary Canadian citizen that really hates wasting money on
unusable things!): if you REALLY do NOT plan traveling outside Canada, and
that's until you are eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship (3 years,
not one day less, since you have become PR), you do NOT need to get that new
PR card and spend all that money on it! Use it to buy something nice for
your kids or for yourself. Do NOT donate it to the government, unless you
are in love with Jean Chretien and his party!
Best of luck and welcome into the Canadian family!
Chris
"Kay" wrote in message
news:NAKn9.-
[email protected] .com...
> Thanks for the reply
> As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation
planned
> in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will be
> the route I take instead of the PR card.
> Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my
children
> to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
> apply later on.
> It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they
will
> be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
> I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
> every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be bothered"
> getting their Citizenship.
> This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their
plan
> as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one to
> five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
> $50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
> "Kay" wrote in message
> news:idJn-
> [email protected] rs.com ...
> > I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> >
> > I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December
2003
> > and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it
would
> be
> > $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half of
> > usage.
> >
> > As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what may
> come
> > up?
> >
> > Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper
IM1000
> > still acceptable?
> >
> > Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> >
> > Thanks to expert help on this
> >
> >
> >
Oct 6th 2002, 6:49 pm
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Re: PR card - compulsory?
Thanks for the replies
My old website (before @home changed to Rogers) did indeed tell people that
I arrived in Canada in April 2000 (damn good memory there Jeremy!) and I was
not a PR until July 2000 as I came here as a fiancé with no visa!
This (unbelievably) was on the advice of inland Immigration providing that I
was married within 90 days of landing. The Immigration at Pearson airport
disagreed and gave me a lecture, interviewed me and my fiancé separately,
believed us and issued me and my sons with a Ministers Permit each (thank
goodness!!) At this stage after 17 hours of travelling/waiting in airports I
was willing to pay $600 to get into Canada!!!!
So my time here from April to July 2000 counts as half which is why it
throws the date of Citizenship to November 2003.
I can hold off going over to the States if need be as we didn't get a very
good reception with the landed papers when we went to Buffalo for the day. I
got interrogated by US Immigration when my papers were all in order. I think
the woman was on a power trip as my husband overran the line where you are
supposed to stop! And that was prior to 9/11 !!
Anyway, I believe it to be not compulsory to have the PR card until the end
of 2003 and then only if travelling on commercial transport, so I don't
think a day trip over the border may be counted in that, but I have no real
urge to rush back to the US at all. Sorry to all Americans I know you aren't
all like that.
As for Canada, I love being here. I got a job in something totally different
and am doing extremely well at work and loving every minute of it. I joined
a line dancing class and have made lots of friends, discovered an old friend
from school has lived here in TO for 20 years and met up with our families,
found distant relatives in St Catharines and the kids settled into their new
life/dad/school/country/ etc right from the first day.
No regrets.......no hassle........no problems.....no tears.......
Could not be better, we are happy to be in Canada.
And I must get my website up and running again soon...lack of time I'm so
busy these days!!!
Kay
"Chris" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
m...
> Hi Kay, even you already got valuable advises from Andrew and JAJ, here it
> goes mine (an ordinary Canadian citizen that really hates wasting money on
> unusable things!): if you REALLY do NOT plan traveling outside Canada, and
> that's until you are eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship (3 years,
> not one day less, since you have become PR), you do NOT need to get that
new
> PR card and spend all that money on it! Use it to buy something nice for
> your kids or for yourself. Do NOT donate it to the government, unless you
> are in love with Jean Chretien and his party!
> Best of luck and welcome into the Canadian family!
> Chris
> "Kay" wrote in message
> news:NAKn-
> [email protected] rs.com ...
> > Thanks for the reply
> >
> > As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation
> planned
> > in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will
be
> > the route I take instead of the PR card.
> >
> > Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my
> children
> > to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
> > apply later on.
> > It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they
> will
> > be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
> >
> > I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
> > every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be
bothered"
> > getting their Citizenship.
> >
> > This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their
> plan
> > as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one
to
> > five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
> >
> > $50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kay" wrote in message
> > news:id-
> > [email protected] gers.com ...
> > > I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> > >
> > > I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December
> 2003
> > > and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it
> would
> > be
> > > $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half
of
> > > usage.
> > >
> > > As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what
may
> > come
> > > up?
> > >
> > > Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper
> IM1000
> > > still acceptable?
> > >
> > > Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> > >
> > > Thanks to expert help on this
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
My old website (before @home changed to Rogers) did indeed tell people that
I arrived in Canada in April 2000 (damn good memory there Jeremy!) and I was
not a PR until July 2000 as I came here as a fiancé with no visa!
This (unbelievably) was on the advice of inland Immigration providing that I
was married within 90 days of landing. The Immigration at Pearson airport
disagreed and gave me a lecture, interviewed me and my fiancé separately,
believed us and issued me and my sons with a Ministers Permit each (thank
goodness!!) At this stage after 17 hours of travelling/waiting in airports I
was willing to pay $600 to get into Canada!!!!
So my time here from April to July 2000 counts as half which is why it
throws the date of Citizenship to November 2003.
I can hold off going over to the States if need be as we didn't get a very
good reception with the landed papers when we went to Buffalo for the day. I
got interrogated by US Immigration when my papers were all in order. I think
the woman was on a power trip as my husband overran the line where you are
supposed to stop! And that was prior to 9/11 !!
Anyway, I believe it to be not compulsory to have the PR card until the end
of 2003 and then only if travelling on commercial transport, so I don't
think a day trip over the border may be counted in that, but I have no real
urge to rush back to the US at all. Sorry to all Americans I know you aren't
all like that.
As for Canada, I love being here. I got a job in something totally different
and am doing extremely well at work and loving every minute of it. I joined
a line dancing class and have made lots of friends, discovered an old friend
from school has lived here in TO for 20 years and met up with our families,
found distant relatives in St Catharines and the kids settled into their new
life/dad/school/country/ etc right from the first day.
No regrets.......no hassle........no problems.....no tears.......
Could not be better, we are happy to be in Canada.
And I must get my website up and running again soon...lack of time I'm so
busy these days!!!
Kay
"Chris" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
m...
> Hi Kay, even you already got valuable advises from Andrew and JAJ, here it
> goes mine (an ordinary Canadian citizen that really hates wasting money on
> unusable things!): if you REALLY do NOT plan traveling outside Canada, and
> that's until you are eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship (3 years,
> not one day less, since you have become PR), you do NOT need to get that
new
> PR card and spend all that money on it! Use it to buy something nice for
> your kids or for yourself. Do NOT donate it to the government, unless you
> are in love with Jean Chretien and his party!
> Best of luck and welcome into the Canadian family!
> Chris
> "Kay" wrote in message
> news:NAKn-
> [email protected] rs.com ...
> > Thanks for the reply
> >
> > As I'm eligible for citizenship as of 27 November 2003 (no vacation
> planned
> > in that time and unlikely to happen outside Canada) I think that will
be
> > the route I take instead of the PR card.
> >
> > Apart from the fact I want to become a Canadian Citizen, I want my
> children
> > to get their Citizenship at the same time as myself rather than have to
> > apply later on.
> > It will also mean that only I have to take the Citizenship test as they
> will
> > be 13 and 15 at the time of application and will receive it through me.
> >
> > I do know a lot of ex (British) pats here who travel to and from the UK
> > every year and have been here many years as a PR and "cannot be
bothered"
> > getting their Citizenship.
> >
> > This will mean more money for CIC and makes me wonder if that is their
> plan
> > as well as extra security. After all the PR card is renewable every one
to
> > five years depending on CIC as to the expiry date when issued!
> >
> > $50 per person every 1-5 years is some revenue!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kay" wrote in message
> > news:id-
> > [email protected] gers.com ...
> > > I have been reading the CIC website concerning the PR card.
> > >
> > > I will be eligible for applying for Canadian Citizenship in December
> 2003
> > > and feel it is a waste of effort and fees (for myself and 2 sons it
> would
> > be
> > > $150) to apply for the PR card for approx a year to a year and a half
of
> > > usage.
> > >
> > > As yet I have no plans to holiday outside Canada but who knows what
may
> > come
> > > up?
> > >
> > > Is the PR card compulsory to anyone leaving Canada,or is the paper
> IM1000
> > > still acceptable?
> > >
> > > Would hate to have hassle at a POE without the PR card.
> > >
> > > Thanks to expert help on this
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Oct 6th 2002, 8:55 pm
#7
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Re: PR card - compulsory?
Hi Kay
You must mean you got PR in July 2001, if my math is correct
Although I remembered your old site, that detail escaped me. There
are so many on this NG moaning about Canada (not able to get a job
etc) it's good to hear from someone who has settled in and has no
regrets.
If you're not travelling, the PR card won't be compulsory at all, at
least not officially, but things will develop after next year so that
it becomes 'de-facto' compulsory for PRs to prove their status for
various purposes within Canada. But you're likely to be a Canadian
citizen long before then.
Jeremy
>On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:49:56 GMT, "Kay" wrote:
>Thanks for the replies
>My old website (before @home changed to Rogers) did indeed tell people that
>I arrived in Canada in April 2000 (damn good memory there Jeremy!) and I was
>not a PR until July 2000 as I came here as a fiancé with no visa!
>This (unbelievably) was on the advice of inland Immigration providing that I
>was married within 90 days of landing. The Immigration at Pearson airport
>disagreed and gave me a lecture, interviewed me and my fiancé separately,
>believed us and issued me and my sons with a Ministers Permit each (thank
>goodness!!) At this stage after 17 hours of travelling/waiting in airports I
>was willing to pay $600 to get into Canada!!!!
>So my time here from April to July 2000 counts as half which is why it
>throws the date of Citizenship to November 2003.
>I can hold off going over to the States if need be as we didn't get a very
>good reception with the landed papers when we went to Buffalo for the day. I
>got interrogated by US Immigration when my papers were all in order. I think
>the woman was on a power trip as my husband overran the line where you are
>supposed to stop! And that was prior to 9/11 !!
>Anyway, I believe it to be not compulsory to have the PR card until the end
>of 2003 and then only if travelling on commercial transport, so I don't
>think a day trip over the border may be counted in that, but I have no real
>urge to rush back to the US at all. Sorry to all Americans I know you aren't
>all like that.
>As for Canada, I love being here. I got a job in something totally different
>and am doing extremely well at work and loving every minute of it. I joined
>a line dancing class and have made lots of friends, discovered an old friend
>from school has lived here in TO for 20 years and met up with our families,
>found distant relatives in St Catharines and the kids settled into their new
>life/dad/school/country/ etc right from the first day.
>No regrets.......no hassle........no problems.....no tears.......
>Could not be better, we are happy to be in Canada.
>And I must get my website up and running again soon...lack of time I'm so
>busy these days!!!
>Kay
You must mean you got PR in July 2001, if my math is correct
Although I remembered your old site, that detail escaped me. There
are so many on this NG moaning about Canada (not able to get a job
etc) it's good to hear from someone who has settled in and has no
regrets.
If you're not travelling, the PR card won't be compulsory at all, at
least not officially, but things will develop after next year so that
it becomes 'de-facto' compulsory for PRs to prove their status for
various purposes within Canada. But you're likely to be a Canadian
citizen long before then.
Jeremy
>On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:49:56 GMT, "Kay" wrote:
>Thanks for the replies
>My old website (before @home changed to Rogers) did indeed tell people that
>I arrived in Canada in April 2000 (damn good memory there Jeremy!) and I was
>not a PR until July 2000 as I came here as a fiancé with no visa!
>This (unbelievably) was on the advice of inland Immigration providing that I
>was married within 90 days of landing. The Immigration at Pearson airport
>disagreed and gave me a lecture, interviewed me and my fiancé separately,
>believed us and issued me and my sons with a Ministers Permit each (thank
>goodness!!) At this stage after 17 hours of travelling/waiting in airports I
>was willing to pay $600 to get into Canada!!!!
>So my time here from April to July 2000 counts as half which is why it
>throws the date of Citizenship to November 2003.
>I can hold off going over to the States if need be as we didn't get a very
>good reception with the landed papers when we went to Buffalo for the day. I
>got interrogated by US Immigration when my papers were all in order. I think
>the woman was on a power trip as my husband overran the line where you are
>supposed to stop! And that was prior to 9/11 !!
>Anyway, I believe it to be not compulsory to have the PR card until the end
>of 2003 and then only if travelling on commercial transport, so I don't
>think a day trip over the border may be counted in that, but I have no real
>urge to rush back to the US at all. Sorry to all Americans I know you aren't
>all like that.
>As for Canada, I love being here. I got a job in something totally different
>and am doing extremely well at work and loving every minute of it. I joined
>a line dancing class and have made lots of friends, discovered an old friend
>from school has lived here in TO for 20 years and met up with our families,
>found distant relatives in St Catharines and the kids settled into their new
>life/dad/school/country/ etc right from the first day.
>No regrets.......no hassle........no problems.....no tears.......
>Could not be better, we are happy to be in Canada.
>And I must get my website up and running again soon...lack of time I'm so
>busy these days!!!
>Kay
